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>>8984
I have to say that open pilot looks pretty impressive, it seems very smooth.
OP could be right that the open source development model, will probably be surprisingly effective to get more of the special case driving behavior correct because technically inclined users will be able to send fixes to make the autopilot work in strange places and unusual situations. Big car companies can hoover up all the driving data they want, they still won't get the high quality data of a user-submit, where a human brain has condensed a entire driving situation (including normative judgements of what ought to happen) into code.

What if I don't want all this mass surveillance bullshit in my car?

>>10795
most new cars are abysmally bad on privacy, it's got little to do with this

>>10796
>attaching 500 sensors to your car so it can drive itself has no privacy implications
Really, uyghur?

>>10797
This OSS Autopilot uses the sensors that are already included in the cars.
Cars are already horrible on privacy, and this does not make it worse.

The Open source autopilot can at least in theory be made privacy respecting.

Unless you actually have a grasp of what people will find fit for purpose, useful and also easy and pleasant to use, nobody will take your work seriously. Pic related.
>>10797
>uyghur
Found the maoist tankie.

>>12198
Making an open-source car with a combustion engine under capitalist conditions was not realistic. There were a few kit-cars that were so easy to modify they came close to being open source tho.

But with e-cars ripping out all the proprietary electronics and putting in opensource stuff, that's probably doable. Given that car companies might become like apple and refuse to supply spare parts to independent repair mechanics, there might actually be an incentive to do that in order to refurbish second hand cars.

If car companies continue down the road of locking functionality behind a subscription-tax, the open source cars will definitely also become more pleasant to use in comparison.

There are of course also open source cars that are designed from scratch like pic related.

>>10794
do you really trust programmers to drive your car? do you trust statistical brute-force "AI" either? considering how common traffic accidents are, I don't even trust regular people. professional bus/train drivers are my favorite autopilot algorithm

>>12199
Yeah, electric car bring barriers to entry way way down. The most sophisticated mechanical parts on them are the suspension and that tech was widely diffused long ago.

>>12201
>Yeah, electric car bring barriers to entry way way down. The most sophisticated mechanical parts on them are the suspension and that tech was widely diffused long ago.
That's true, i guess that crash safety, like engineering crumple zones, is probably the most challenging part now.

>>12199
>Making an open-source car with a combustion engine under capitalist conditions was not realistic.
Let me introduce you to the Rally Fighter

>>12280
That certainly is the nicest kit-car i have ever seen.

Here is an interesting page
https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Local_Motors

I wasn't able to find blueprints or anything, so it's unclear to me how open source it was. And it still uses a proprietary engine and drive-train.

But you do have a point this is pretty advanced stuff.
If the blue-prints are open source, it might be worth forking this with smaller tires in an electric version that has batteries plus a combustion engine range extender.

>>12281
I think someone's already done it. There is certainly an effort to bring open source ECUs to the market for many engines, and this being LS-powered, I'm sure one exists already. I would like to see an electric version. In fact, I'm very interested in electric buggies, because I would like to take one for night hunts and shoots. Right now I'm really just heavily considering an electric bike or motorcycle.

>>12313
>Right now I'm really just heavily considering an electric bike or motorcycle.
At the moment you're best bet might be to go for an electric bicycle, you can get relatively open technology, for motors, controller circuits and battery packs.

Louis Rossmann the youtube repair-guy said the stuff from this shop is open and reasonable quality
https://ebikes.ca/product-info/grin-products/phaserunner.html
https://em3ev.com/

here's a forum for ebikes
https://endless-sphere.com/sphere/

>>12315
Thanks, anon. That might actually be a better choice, considering I don't have to go and get the license. I always like the stuff by Rossman. That manlet knows what's up.

>>12321
Consider sharing how it went in case you decide to build an electric bicycle

>>12322
Will do. The area I'm working in certainly lends itself to an offroad electric bike, and it might be easier to carry to and from.