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 No.4421[View All]

In most countries it's 16 which I think is good. I'd say there needs to be some "Romeo and Juliet" exceptions added. No reason to have a 17 year old go to jail for dating a 15 year old.
15 is a just a little too young for the age of consent. What is hilarious is that burgers think just big age gaps are pedophilia while the average roastie in America becomes sexually active at 13, and often even younger.
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 No.11441

>>11440
No, I didn't know she was a villain. I'm not a dork.
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 No.11442

>>11441
>"here let me post a nerd culture meme to push my half-baked political agenda"
>actual nerd sees your shitty post and says you fucked up
>"here let me immediately pivot to some fucking Saved by the Bell Gen X-tier nerd hate as though video games and comic books haven't been mainstream for like 20 fucking years now"
Not that it was a good thing for them to become mainstream, but you make everybody who isn't a cancerous pimple on society's ass lean toward lowering the age of consent.
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 No.11446

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 No.11448

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>Thirty-two-year-old mountaineer Homer Peel kisses his bride Geneva on the courthouse steps at Madisonville, Tenn., June 25, 1937, after he was told by the court that he could keep his 12-year-old wife. Peel testified he married the child after his efforts to get her into an orphanage proved unavailing. (AP Photo) Ref #: PA.8669053 Date: 25/06/1937
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 No.11449

>>11397
That looks like Layla Jenner, a porn actress https://www.data18.com/name/layla-jenner
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 No.11450

>>11448
And people wanna talk about how pedophilia is “so prevalent” nowadays.
If something like this were to happen today, there would be riots and the courthouse would be shut down for bad PR.

I hate that people all assume degeneracy is just a “modern day phenomenon”.

Somehow, the law abiding virginal men who frequently masturbate in our current postmodern era are seen as worse than mountaineers securing prepubescent females for brides in the late Modernist era
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 No.11453

>>11450
>And people wanna talk about how pedophilia is “so prevalent” nowadays.
It's roastoids seething because men are finally breaking the feminist conditioning and starting to unapologetically admit that we love teenage girls and the only reasons anyone has a problem with that are jealousy and spite, not morality.
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 No.11456

>>11453
Can you stop proclaiming your love for teenage females? Also, it’s hebephilia, not pedophilia.
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 No.11457

>>11456
>Can you stop proclaiming your love for teenage females?
…no?
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 No.11458

Worst board on the site.
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 No.11459

>>11458
Silence lib
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 No.11463

>>11458
Imageboards being out the worst in people. Forget about TikTok, Twitter, Reddit, fbi.gov, or Instagram.

The toxicity on those sites are modest compared to imageboards.
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 No.11464

>>11463
It's not imageboards, it's /R9K/ specifically. Reddit, TikTok (Ellison owned now), fbi.gov (feds, empty powertrips, and grooming), Facebook (world's largest online human trafficking hub), and Instagram are absolutely worse than every other board on this site, just not this specific one. This board is crap.
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 No.11465

>>11464
Where else are there common spamming of CP and brazen serious talks about wanting to be racist or sexist or predatory?
Where else are mass shooters get aspired?

Imageboards are notorious for having groomers and feds as well. It’s just that there’s not enough attention brought to that because they don’t have the amount of optics that the superfamous ones

I wouldn’t even call imageboards as underground anymore.
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 No.11466

>>11465
>common spamming of
It's one guy/group doing that with bots, and they get banned every time. Also that didn't even start until like the late 2010s, it's not an inherent feature of imageboards, it's a specific sick fuck. In fact, Reddit and Tumblr actually had a way worse problem with that for years (when alt chans were already popular) before the bots started targeting alt chans hard.

People talk about all the topics you listed on all kinds of sites, not just imageboards.
>where else mass shooters get aspired? [SIC]
Like the other topics, anywhere. The mass shooters who famously posted manifestos to 8ch also posted them to sites like Facebook and Instagram, which were, mysteriously ;), not targeted by the US federal gov't the way 8ch was. Before there was any association made with imageboards, there was an association made with sites like VampireFreaks, iirc Myspace had this "problem" (a large userbase, within which some people sometimes do murder, which then gets blamed on the site regardless of whether the site had anything to do with it) too.

You'll also find "true crime" people on TikTok, Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, fbi.gov, etc. whose entire personality is stanning serial killers. Like it's really naive to think this stuff is unique to or even characteristic of imageboards specifically.

>not as much attention

Imageboards are under disproportionately high scrutiny if anything.

>not underground anymore

Literally like at least half of my generation, most likely mpre, between 2006 and 2012, grew up using 4Chan at least a little. Like it hasn't been underground in 20 years, I'm aware that 4chan's /R9K/ did the "reeee normies" thing later than that, but they were completely delusional. 4Chan and 4Chan memes had been mainstream for 5-6 years back then - in fact, a lot of the niche hobby boards were more active before /R9K/'s spergout and the creation of /pol/.
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 No.11468

>>11466
>It's one guy/group doing that with bots, and they get banned every time. Also that didn't even start until like the late 2010s, it's not an inherent feature of imageboards, it's a specific sick fuck.

Why do imageboard patrons always wanna use this lie?
CP has been a thing since before 2010.
And it’s not ONE person or a specific group. They’re outliers but they’re not all part of the same locale

In fact, Reddit and Tumblr actually had a way worse problem with that for years (when alt chans were already popular) before the bots started targeting alt chans hard.

Provide history of this.
I know CP is a problem on major sites but to claim it’s way worse and being a serious epic proportional problem before the alt chans?

>Literally like at least half of my generation, most likely mpre, between 2006 and 2012, grew up using 4Chan at least a little. Like it hasn't been underground in 20 years, I'm aware that 4chan's /R9K/ did the "reeee normies" thing later than that, but they were completely delusional. 4Chan and 4Chan memes had been mainstream for 5-6 years back then - in fact, a lot of the niche hobby boards were more active before /R9K/'s spergout and the creation of /pol/.


The last half of the last sentence needs proof.
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 No.11469

>>11466
>You'll also find "true crime" people on TikTok, Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, fbi.gov, etc. whose entire personality is stanning serial killers. Like it's really naive to think this stuff is unique to or even characteristic of imageboards specifically.

I’m talking about mass shooters getting their aspirations from imageboards not people glazing murderers although that’s another problem

In fact, there’s been a lot of people who used to write letters to serial killers in prison.
Some people even collected artwork or crafts of former serial killers.
There were people who sympathized Charles Manson, saying he shouldn’t be imprisoned because he “didn’t kill those people”.

>Imageboards are under disproportionately high scrutiny if anything.


It’s under high scrutiny since 2016, but before that? Not as much.
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 No.11470

OH FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING PEDOPHILE OP

YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW HEAVY A MILLSTONE REALLY IS AND HOW DEEP THE OCEAN REALLY GOES
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 No.11472

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>>11468
>Why do imageboard patrons always wanna use this lie?
It's not a lie.
There is a specific group that spams it now.

>has been a thing since before 2010.

We aren't talking about "in general," we're talking about the spam bots. I was using alt chans before 2010, the issue with the persistent bots that spam that hadn't started yet. If this about that kind of stuff in general, then it's been around for centuries, and has even less relation to imageboards, but we're talking about the spambots which are a specific group and specific phenomenon.
See first picrel.

>Provide history of this.

4Chan (and most alt chans subsequently) had a rule against that stuff from the getgo. Reddit didn't ban it until 2012.
Tumblr had a huge problem with this stuff partly because the site was poorly organized and massive - a problem which actually got worse when they broke their own search engine in the 2010s, so there were loads of blogs flying under the radar very easily.

>The last half of the last sentence needs proof.

You don't provide proof for anything you say.
Ftr I brought this phenomenon up at least once before, and someone else found a chart comparing activity on 4Chan's niche boards before and after /pol/, but I didn't save that.

>>11469
>I’m talking about mass shooters getting their aspirations [SIC] from imageboards not people glazing murderers although that’s another problem
There actually is no causal relation between using imageboards and mass shooting, and it's very weird to claim that there is one and then in the same sentence claim that people who worship the Columbine killers are a totally different phenomenon from the one you're alleging exists wrt imageboards.

>In fact, there’s been a lot of people who used to write letters to serial killers in prison.

There was also a concept called "copycat killers." It's almost like none of this has anything to do with imageboards, and it's entirely an issue of imageboards being scapegoated which you, for some reason, have internalized.

>There were people who sympathized Charles Manson, saying he shouldn’t be imprisoned because he “didn’t kill those people”.

Wrt Manson, the argument was that he was innocent, which isn't the same thing.
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 No.11473

>>11469
>It’s under high scrutiny since 2016, but before that? Not as much.
You have to try to learn something about the stuff you're talking about at some point. Vidrel is from 2007.
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 No.11474

>>11473
Never said imageboards were never under scrutiny before 2016 but it wasn’t as much as now.

The media scrutiny that 4chan got in 2007 isn’t the same as in 2017 or later.
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 No.11475

>>11472
>There was also a concept called "copycat killers." It's almost like none of this has anything to do with imageboards, and it's entirely an issue of imageboards being scapegoated which you, for some reason, have internalized.

I never said that this issue is specifically imageboards. But recently, 4chan and 8chan have been the epicenter of aspiring mass shooters posting their manifestos prior to their “big day out”.



>4Chan (and most alt chans subsequently) had a rule against that stuff from the getgo. Reddit didn't ban it until 2012.


Could it be because of the expectation that chans would have more “eccentric” characters so they had to make that rule on there, whereas Reddit assumed that most of the patrons were “normies” and therefore didn’t feel any need to make that rule?

>Tumblr had a huge problem with this stuff partly because the site was poorly organized and massive - a problem which actually got worse when they broke their own search engine in the 2010s, so there were loads of blogs flying under the radar very easily.


Fair point.

>We aren't talking about "in general," we're talking about the spam bots. I was using alt chans before 2010, the issue with the persistent bots that spam that hadn't started yet. If this about that kind of stuff in general, then it's been around for centuries, and has even less relation to imageboards, but we're talking about the spambots which are a specific group and specific phenomenon.

See first picrel.

Also valid point.
I’m well aware of CP predating the Internet. In fact, CP only became a serious legal offense around the 1980s.
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 No.11476

>>11470
Did you mean to post this cringe boomer shit on /pol/ but accidentally posted it in the wrong tab or something? Nobody here gives a fuck about your jew god.

>>11458
>>11463
Good lord you people are some whiny pearl-clutching faggots. Nobody asked for any of your phony-ass moralizing. Nobody needs you to "protect" them or decide how they can govern their own bodies. Fuck off.
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 No.11478

THE AGE OF CONSENT SHOULD BE 21 INTERNATONALLY

I'M SORRY YOU ABSOLUTE REJECTS/FREAKS, BUT LITTLE 13 YEAR OLD GIRLS CAN'T BE GOOD MOTHERS SO THEREFORE NO-ONE SHOULD BE FUCKING EM.
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 No.11479

The Twelve Sexual Commandments of the Revolutionary Proletariat

SECOND COMMANDMENT

2. Sexual abstinence is necessary before marriage, and marriage should be only made in a state of full social and biological maturity (that is, 20-25 years).
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 No.11480

>>11478
Nah, sixteen is good. Youd be infantilizing eighteen thru twenty.

But okay, if age of consent is to be 21, so should the age of criminal responsibility, working, and military service.
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 No.11481

>>11479
Actually, most societies had people get married sixteen thru twenty in the old days.
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 No.11482

>>11479
People biiologically mature by age fifteen and socially mature by eighteen
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 No.11483

>>11479
Neuroscientists now say "brain dvelopment" ends at 32
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 No.11484

>>11483
These people aren't actual scientists, they're feminist ideologues pushing pseudoscience. None of these fucking faggots even have a concrete definition of what makes your brain developed, let alone how they're measuring that development. It's all a bunch of bullshit.
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 No.11485

>>11484
The brain development theory was based on an incomplete neurological study.

It’s being promoted by government and pop culture to justify patronizing young adults.
Parents and teachers now can get away with smothering young adults without much reprimand.

A lot of early post-prime age adults now have a perfect excuse for lack of prospects
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 No.11488

AGE 21 FOR EVERYTHING IS NOT A BAD IDEA
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 No.11489


REPLY MEANT FOR
>>11480
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 No.11491

>>11488
That’s gonna cause a lot of strain on society.
IMO, it should be sixteen.
For work, military service, criminal responsibility, etc

Raising the initial age of adult responsibilities to twenty one may sound like a good idea but what’s gonna happen is that parents, teachers, and other elders are gonna coddle young people until age twenty one and throw them out into the world with no clue.

The truth is, parents don’t really raise their kids to be adults. They raise kids to be pets

Some people suggest raising the initial age of adulthood to twenty five to help compensate for college and shitty labor market.

All it’s gonna do is allow teachers and parents to smother, coddle, neglect or abuse young people for longer periods.

And soon, that means primary stage of stability won’t be reached until they’re forty.

If we are to extend adolescence, we as a society are gonna have to reset all of our modern parenting and pedagogical practices to be more technical-skill oriented.
There ought to be ethics training for students involving adult activities.
Curriculum will have to include basic mechanical repair, cooking, financial education, child rearing etc

The problem with our current mode of pedagogy is that it focuses far too much on abstract theoretical things with no relation to real world entities.

In fact, I am in favor of having schooling be mainly boarding to help increase social autonomy for students otherwise parents will continue to smother them.

But only as long as schools are mainly vocational
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 No.11492

>>11478
>BUT LITTLE 13 YEAR OLD GIRLS

Thirteen isn’t a little girl

Still a minor but not a little kid
This kind of language is infantilizing
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 No.11518

>>11492

YOU TALK LIKE YOU'RE A FUCKING GRANNY, "YOUNG MAN, THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE IS SO 'N SO"
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 No.11519

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No one actually cares about pedophilia. It's just a kludge used by libs to gain moral authority.
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 No.11520

>>11518
But it’s true though
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 No.11521

>>11518
People refer to young people as “young man/young woman” in formal patronization mode.
But in casual patronization mode, they refer to young adults as “little kids”

It’s infantilism, whether you want to admit it or not

Hell, you even wanted to raise age of consent to twenty one, which suggests that you view young people as infants
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 No.11522

>>11492
Why are you being obscurantist and dancing around the stance of whether 13 year olds should become mothers and fathers?
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 No.11523

>>11519
This.
“Pedophilia” is just a morality slur that’s thrown around to discredit your opponent.
No different from “nazi” “commie” “narcissist” “psychopath” etc
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 No.11524

>>11519
"Pedophile" basically just means "any guy who's into non-expired females". It never had a concrete meaning.
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 No.11525

>>11524
Pedophilia used to mean “being sexually aroused by prepubescent humans”.

Now it’s expanded to include epi-pubescent or early post-pubescent humans
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 No.11527

>>11522
I never said that they should.
Why do uyghas on here always wanna jump to conclusions.

She’s a minor but not a toddler
Referring to teens as little kids is ironically low key creepy.

It encourages infantilism which ironically leads to them being taken advantage of

You know that in ultra conservative communities, teens are treated like infants and they’re sexually abused a lot because of that.

It’s especially sad that secular society is falling for the same things that ultra conservatives want
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 No.11690

If there even should be such a concept as the age of consent, it should be tied to the real age of adolescence, which is around 12-13 years. What is the purpose of destroying the life of a man, that had sex with a young adolescent female who has the biological ability to have sex? It's just pointless terror and politic action to suppress men, nothing more. Who benefits from it? Old hags, those want to drain resources from men, but cannot compete with their younger rivals, and the bourgeois elites, that don't want men to have strong and happy families, that want men to be lonely incels, weak and unhappy. Today feminists and cucks are ready to mock a man even if his gf is an adult, but younger than him (e.g. 23 and 35). Isn't that nonsense?
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 No.11695

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 No.11697

>>11690
These people who wanna socio-sexually infantilize young adults are the same ones who are silent about military draft
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 No.11699

>>11695
The girl on the right doesn’t even have that bad of a pudge.
Besides all she needs is to have a boy make love to her belly button
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 No.11700

>>11697
This is going to get even worse when Trump inevitably starts up the draft for Iran. The same satanic boomers who screamed for decades that the age of consent is 18 despite the actual laws disagreeing with them are going to call for drafting 16-year-olds. Somebody will point out to them that if a 16-year-old is old enough to be sent into battle, a 16-year-old is old enough to give sexual consent. The boomers will inevitably spaz the fuck out at this and scream about 18 is a hard line and make threats like every psychopathic uyghur thug who can't defend their bullshit worldview. And then hopefully the Day of the Pillow will finally arrive.
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 No.11725

>>11527
>You know that in ultra conservative communities, teens are treated like infants and they’re sexually abused a lot because of that.
What is the correlation? Also, source?

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