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>>7517
>17 is too young for 22

>but 22 is too young for thirty

>but 17 is old enough to go to prison for crime


The creation of adolescence has caused a behavioral sink

ITT: smelly Paki Brits and Zigguroid Slavoids

>>7906
>>7906
You realize not everything should be abolished right? See this is why I quit being an anarkiddie.

ITT: gay pedos

>>7916
Pedophilia would be going after literal toddlers.
This is hebephilia.
Also in those days, thirteen was an adult and they were sent to fight wars and shit.

>>7907
I think adolescence should be abolished as a sociobiological institution.
It encourages immaturity.
Irony is, "pedophilia" is more common in systems where the youth have no rights, such as chirches and schools.

The worst part is how the West wants to extend adolescence throughout the twenties and want the rest of the world to follow suit

Youth is now associated with loserdom and awkwardness is seen as essential.

Life skills are seen as unnecessary to teach in schools nowadays.

>>7921
But you see that's not how it works. If you lust after girls that are younger than what your society deems mature enough, you are literally a pedo. The fact that you have to make this semantic distinction is not a good look.

>>7923
NTA
This varies, no? In a lot of non-anglo societies 13-14 are completely fine but in America it's prison worthy. My father met my mother when she was around 14. The age gap wasn't great but he was an adult.

>>7923
I don't give a shit how it looks to a country full of cucks. Fuck westoid society and fuck you. 16 is a fucking adult as far as any reasonable person is concerned and if you try to stop me from fucking a willing 16-year-old girl, I will actually unalive you. Fucking sick of your pearl clutching. Happy fucking new year, faggot.

>>7923
Why do imageboard users always say this?
This is the truth.
Pedophilia is not the same as hebephilia.
Yet they get butthurt if I confuse leftism with liberalism.

>>7925
>>7924
Western Europe and North America will soon say that 18-24 is a child.

>>7927
Already happened. It's not limited to the West though. Even in North Korea marriage is being delayed to 30s.

>>7933
Yea but I mean to say that the West and its ethnogeographic associates may eventually legally extend childhood to 25.
We are already have social laws discouraging 18-24 from adults activities.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/23/loneliness-is-rising-younger-workers-and-social-media-users-feel-it-most.html
>Loneliness is rising: Younger workers and social media users feel it most
<(2020)

Why don't Leftists advocate for lowering the age of consent or getting rid of taboos in age-difference relationships?

>>9339
I think that we should enforce Romeo and Juliet laws but not lowering the age of consent. I think we should be less harsh on people under the age of 25 for being horny though

>>9340
posts like these are part of the problem. Many young people are quite mature for their age and it was normal in history

>>9340
Wrong.
“Romeo and Juliet”laws are what causes this problem in the first place.

Also, being under 25 isn’t a pathology for having sex drive or other worldly inclination.

>>9341
There's no such thing as "mature for there age" This is a delusion used by pedos who want to justify their own actions. Regardless of how intellegent a person appears to be you have to keep it in the context of the fact that they have only been alive 17 years at the most. Just having a sex drive doesn't justify anything. Animals have sex drives and yet bestiality is still illegal.

>>9342
How? In my State that is how it is run and its never had an issue. What is really an issue is hard laws that state an 18 year old cannot have sex with a 16 year old even though they are both still mentally children, basically.

>>7927
It's adult light.

>>9344
>still mentally children
No they aren't.

I'm chiming in entirely about this, because this is a stupid lie people repeat all the time. There are really people on the internet now who act like completing puberty is just nothing because at some point they heard the popsci fact that there's a part of the brain that keeps growing until roughly 25 and it was misrepresented as, like, the final change which makes the entirety of difference. Yet at roughly 30, testosterone starts dropping in men.

People continue to age, their brains continue to change, and the only change which is actually radically, visibly noticeable in behavior is the start and completion of puberty. A child, a pre-pubescent child, to clarify, cannot understand sex. Like, physically, they don't have the same response to stimuli as an adult would, and if they do then a lot of the time that means they've been abused and developed faster than average as a physiological response to that abuse. An 18-year-old is not "mentally a child," nor is a 16-year-old, and I'm not even commenting on the ethics of consent laws when I say this (I care very little about consent laws, there are way more important things in the world), it's just a fundamentally wrong statement to equate the mental functioning of someone who has completed puberty with that of someone who hasn't, and the idea that people hit 25 and suddenly start making better choices regardless of whether or not they have the world experience to understand how their choices affect people from observation is just a complete nonsense. Adulthood, more than anything, is marked by adult responses to sexual stimuli and adult levels of libido; and this, not rational decision making, is what characterizes an adult brain. It's even more impossible for me to think otherwise personally, because I worked in bars for years and if anything the people who were like 21 were more cautious than the guys who were 40+; the best I could possibly say is that the supposed radical change by way of brain growth that people on Twitter bring up whenever this comes up must have skipped like 5 generations at least. Like, if the 21s, the 20s, and the late teens are "mentally children," there's no way I could ever justify claiming that the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s aren't also "mentally children."

>>9346
No you retard faggot.
Puberty has nothing to do with it. It's about life experiences which you obviously have had zero to understand. A person who is 14 or 13 even 16 or 17 has not been in situations where, normally, they have been mislead or taken advantage of. This naivety can be taken advantage of by full grown adults which is fucking sick. You are a sick individual.

>>9347
>Puberty has nothing to do with it.
Completion of puberty is literally the entirety of it.
Everything else is secondary. That's not a moral statement, it's a statement about how human sexual development works. It's not just an external physical process, it effects the brain and how people process stimuli, and that's not up for debate.

>It's about life experiences which you obviously have had zero to understand.
You fucking retard, I literally went into this here:
<the idea that people hit 25 and suddenly start making better choices regardless of whether or not they have the world experience to understand how their choices affect people from observation is just a complete nonsense.
Maybe read me before you reply, you fucking idiot.

Also, I worked in bars for years. I have way more experience dealing with people directly and seeing how they make decisions than you do.

>>9347
Also!
>A person who is 14 or 13 even 16 or 17 has not been in situations where, normally, they have been mislead or taken advantage of.
I have no fucking idea what your life was like by 17, but this is a ridiculous statement. Did you live in a plastic bubble or something?
The idea that the average person has never been mislead or lied to or abused before 18 is just patently fucking absurd, and so is the argument you're making. A world-weary 9-year-old and an isolated 17-year-old are not on even terms as far as capacity to consent; a pre-pubescent child cannot mentally process sexual stimuli. Like at all.
Pre-pubescent children who are sexually abused repeatedly literally can be physiologically altered by the abuse, hitting puberty at ages which are unhealthily early and responding to stimuli in ways which are abnormal for that age. It is not normal for a 6-year-old to think about sex and physically respond to sexual thoughts in the way that it's normal for a 17-year-old to think about sex. An adult understanding of sex does not occur without the completion of puberty and the effects of hormonal changes on growth and libido, it's not just a matter of outside experience, the physical process of sexual development comes with radical changes in perception, and trying to handwave these as though they don't matter or as though it's simply a matter of '"experience" alone is pedo behavior.

When I say that a prepubescent child is incapable of understanding sex, that's not rhetorical. "Naivety" has nothing to do with it, although prepubescent children are also especially susceptible to manipulation. If you get raped before puberty and it isn't frequent enough to cause traumatic early puberty, you won't even fully understand what was going on until you hit puberty naturally. Like, to a small child sex as a process does not make sense. I'm not a "sick individual" for pointing that out, you're a sick individual for trying to obscure it. Kill yourself you fucking piece of shit.

>>9350
Guy who has lived his entire life in a plastic bubble when he sees a person who had any negative experience with life at all growing up: "Is this a ghetto hood uyghur?"

>>9353
You're describing yourself, I'm not the one who can't tell the difference between an 18-year-old and a literal child you fucking diddler.

>>9344
By this logic, adults with developmental disabilities should not be allowed sex.

The definition of childhood was expanded to begin with

>>9347
In theory.
Age numbers aren’t inherent personality traits.
There’s many adults whom are take. Advantage of in situations you describe

>>9344
>16 and 18 is still mentally children

The only people who believe this are usually failed adults who had delayed maturity

>>9355
Many of them aren't. I know a guy who was put in prison for 10 years because he had sex with a downsyndrome girl.

>>9354
that's not what I said at all you knuckle dragger.

>>9357
So you had everything figured out at 18?

>>9358
Most people over thirty are still unable to figure things out, you’re just grasping at straws to justify patronizing young adults.
The idea that age numbers are inherently virtue points assumes that everyone everywhere lives life according to western sitcoms since day one.

Outside the first world, people begin their adult lives at fourteen, hell it was common in the first world up until the 1980s

>>9350
You’re the one making strawmen assuming that kids have never been in situations where they’re duped.

>>9345
Only in our modern times
There are articles talking about extending the age span of adolescence.

Millennials, zoomers, and even Gen X are advocating for this despite accusing boomers of being chauvinists.

>>7923
So if society deems age forty the start of adulthood, does that mean I’m a pedo for going after twenty-seven year olds?

>>7098
Manual means “hand”
>>7351
If that’s semantics, then distinguishing between different types of leftism is also semantics.
Distinguishing anti-settler sentiment from Judeophobia in anti-Zionism is semantics

>>9361
Here's the thing; Everything is contingent on the times they are in. To imply otherwise is anachronistic. We learn and gather data as people over centuries and millennia and that data comes together to form out collective opinions; super ego.
I'm ok with raising the age limmit and just because "zoomers" started this train of logic doesn't mean it is wrong, or, some how faulty.

>>9359
At thirty I had a house a car and a job making 100k a year. at 20 I was drinking and partying and hanging around with friends dropping acid trying to find the meaning of life. You not being able to leave your mothers basement doesn't preclude everyone else doing that as well.

>>9364
>At thirty I had a house a car and a job making 100k a year. at 20 I was drinking and partying and hanging around with friends dropping acid trying to find the meaning of life.

So you prob my point.
Th reason why you think twenty is too young to be adult is because you decided to remain adolescent at twenty.

Also:
>Here's the thing; Everything is contingent on the times they are in. To imply otherwise is anachronistic. We learn and gather data as people over centuries and millennia and that data comes together to form out collective opinions; super ego.
I'm ok with raising the age limmit and just because "zoomers" started this train of logic doesn't mean it is wrong, or, some how faulty.

So you think being a child at twenty is "progressive"?

Just because you were partying at fe twenty doesn't mean everyone else was or is doing.


If we were to go with your logic, we will have vicenarian high schoolers.
By extending the age span of adolescence, you're just steeping immaturity.

You are making excuses to infantilize young adults because you're projecting your younger self

>>9364
>I'm ok with raising the age limmit and just because "zoomers" started this train of logic doesn't mean it is wrong, or, some how faulty.

If it's not wrong, would you be ok with having childhood end at thirty five?
It's not faulty logic.
It should b ok to be an aimless awkward student in your late twenties/early thirties because "everything is contingent to the times they are in".

It's already ok for adults to collect Funko pops and bully kids online over cartoons

>>9364
>Here's the thing; Everything is contingent on the times they are in. To imply otherwise is anachronistic. We learn and gather data as people over centuries and millennia and that data comes together to form out collective opinions; super ego.

So I guess if society decided that Israel is a legitimate nation-state that deserves to kill off Palestinians, it's not wrong.

If cisheterosexual men being profiled on dating sites for "wrong speak" is contingent to ourtime, it's not wrong.

If little kids are given free gender hormor therapy without parental consent because it's "contingent to the times" it's not faulty

>>9367
That isnt what I said. 20 is an adult but it isn't "An adult" It is an inbetween stage of life where people are young adults and should be treated as such just the same way as people are teenagers and people are children people are young adults. It is another stage of life.

>So you tyhink being a child at twenty is progressive

Holy fuck irl I would punch you in the face over how up your own ass you are.
>I have to keep painting his argument as hyperbolic strawmen because I cannot actually form any coherent logic about my child rape desires.

It's not anything but factual you dumb mother fucker. People are not born knowing how the world works we discover it.

>>9370
You fags are incapable of nuance.
no one said 20 year olds are children.

>>9372
Youre the insufferable one.
Also you implied thatty are.

>>9371
Once again, this is due to infantilization.
Teenagehood as a lifestage didn't exist until two centuries ago and is now only ring adapted globally.

Now, we have "emerging adulthood".
You are either an adult or a child.
There's no "in-between ".

>>9373
You are such a retard it's unbearable.

>Everyone is just born knowing everything socially and culturally and that's that!

What a fucking retard

Also learn correct grammar you low autism score moron.

>>9374
Now whose making strawman?
You're using the "nobody is born knowing anything" to suggest age numbers are automatic determinators of personhood.

Of course no one is born knowing anything but thats why we learn especially when it comes to technical skills.

Most people nowadays have a disturbing lack of technical skills appropriate for their age.

The way our modern society demarcated childhood and adulthood is ineffective.

The fact that we have to make new labels for the prime age stage of life while reducing autonomy suggests infantilization.

If twenty is not an adult but a young adult*, then what does that really entail?

*(Using your dialect)

You're saying they are senior toddlers.

Why do people lump middle aged with elderly?
They're not the same at all.

>>9374
You're implying that young adults are automatically defective/fragile beings though

>>9375
>The way our modern society demarcated childhood and adulthood is ineffective.

Yes I agree we should go back to when children were working in mines.

Again you are a retard barely worth conversing with.

Have you considered thee demarcations exist for a reason?

>>9377

No i'm not you retards cant read apperently.

>>9379
>disagreement with the infantilised treatment of young adults means you want children to work in mines

I’ve read your posts and you explicitly said you’re ok with raising the age of majority.

You said that “things are contingent relative to their times”.

It’s become common for the twenties to be “finding yourself” which is just a slew of dead end jobs and angsty hopes and zero technical skills.