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 No.4421[Last 50 Posts]

In most countries it's 16 which I think is good. I'd say there needs to be some "Romeo and Juliet" exceptions added. No reason to have a 17 year old go to jail for dating a 15 year old.
15 is a just a little too young for the age of consent. What is hilarious is that burgers think just big age gaps are pedophilia while the average roastie in America becomes sexually active at 13, and often even younger.
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 No.4422

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old enough to bleed (or cum) old enough to breed.
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 No.4423

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>>4422
hello ogre transhumanist
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 No.4424

>>4423
I don't understand these soyjak memes anymore
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 No.4425

Greetings fellow leftists
Lowering the age of consent is an important cause for global communist revolution. This is definitely an issue we should focus more on!!
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 No.4428

The creation of adolescence was one of the biggest mistakes made in modern society.

Adolescence is a marketing scheme built to sell infinite toys and security devices.
People whine about the dumbing down of society from TV or Internet or even zero tolerance laws. But adolescence was the key ingredient in the postmodern phase of social engineering.
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 No.4429

From:https://7chan.org/rnb/res/24973.html#i24973


I know people will disagree with me, but I'm tired of society treating under-25 as helpless puppies that shouldn't be allowed ANY form of independence.

I hate how whenever a young person makes a mistake or has a flaw, they attribute to youth, yet older people can be flawed and accident-prone and still have their personhood respected.

I especially hate how when it comes to young criminals, they assume that because they're young that they were "indoctrinated/misguided". No they're not. They knew what they were doing.
Especially when it comes to statutory rape. Alot of cases of man-on-girl "rape" are initiated by the minor. These young girls are worldly-ambitious and will do anything to have a taste of riches and adoration. It's only when the money and gifts stop coming that they yell "RAPE!"

Our society punishes young people whom show worldly-awareness and cynicism. Children are being forced into positivity. Any child who likes dark/edgy humor or isn't into the whole happy-go-lucky overtness that children are assumed to have are seen as defective.

God forbid kids should like horror, cuss words, porn, or different ethnicities. God forbid kids should point out the absurdities of the adult world.
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 No.4431

>>4429
why are you spamming every thread uygho to getchan.net I'm sure they'd love to hear about it
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 No.4434

15 isnt too young for age of consent.

Id say 10 is too young.
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 No.4437

Romeo and Juliet makes the most sense. 18 is legally an adult. but 17 can date 19 - 20 max. Three years out. 15 the youngest a 17 year old can date. And everything 18 and up is fair game. I don't think anyone necessarily under the age of 25 should be put in prison for being unable to funny control their libido, though.
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 No.4438

>>4437
everything ypu said is bullshit. Especially the last sentence.

14 - 17 is as fair game as 18-21.

Also yes you should go to jail for lack of libidinal control even if youre under 25.
"Brain development" is infantilism.
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 No.4439

>>4437
25 should go to jail for trying shit under 18. I think that while children in a three year age gap shouldn't be criminalized, an investigation should take place as to what instigated: adults who coerce kids should obviously go to jail and there should be mandatory sex ed and counseling for the kids involved. I think it is likely that children engaging in early sex (before maybe 12) likely have a history of abuse which warrants investigation.
>>4438
kids are tards bro and easy to manipulate I don't know what to tell you. They shouldn't get to decide what they do. The based socialist republic should decide what they do and that starts with early military training and agricultural work under based pioneer programs.
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 No.4444

>>4425
>OP wants to talk about love and sex in the Love and Sex channel.
Well blow me down.
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 No.4445

>>4444
Nice digits faggot

The kind of guys who bang younger chicks are smart enough not to talk about it on social media, with dorky leftists, with or betamales (big overlap there tbh)

>Uh muh, I want to state to tell me it's ok
Least over socialized leftist
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 No.4455

>>4439
>kids are tards bro and easy to manipulate I don't know what to tell you. They shouldn't get to decide what they do. The based socialist republic should decide what they do and that starts with early military training and agricultural work under based pioneer programs.


This kimd of thinking is unironically why kids are vulnerable.
If you dont allow kids to do things for themseves they end up as postpubescent invalids.

Although yes, kids should go to trades.

But if kids shouldnt decide ther own fates, neither should the average adult, especially the elderly or disbaled.
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 No.5223

Long-ish post. I have to make this disclaimer out of habit even though the (possibly unwarranted) assumption on leftist sites is that people here can actually read.

>>4425
>omg gaiz we have to appeal to normie retards even if their social views are completely and objectively fucking wrong

>>4437
No, faggot, it literally makes the least sense of any social policy ever implemented, and only fucking boomer-tier millennials who've never known anything except Chris Hansen retardation actually think this shit makes sense - even the actual boomers and Gen Xers who started this agecuck shitshow know it's all a fucking scam. You are either fucking capable of consent or you are not, simple as. There is no room for "nuance" here because "nuance" when used by feminists is just code for "blatant hypocrisy that serves to artificially inflate my roastie sexual market value". Incels are unironically entirely correct about the age of consent and this blind spot (more like an unshakable feminist death grip) on the left has created an absolutely fucking colossal amount of completely justified homicidal rage among men who were denied teen sex as a teen and are now expected and in fact demanded at gunpoint to settle for roasties - and many of these men are science and tech nerds whose skills society can't exist without.

In answer to the question of this thread, it should be no higher than 15, with no fucking faggot-ass close-in-age restrictions. If you just HAVE to have something like that because you're fucking gay, the age where people are restricted to others close in age should be more like 13, and the maximum age for this tier should be 20-ish. The reasoning behind this is simple: 15 is an age when almost every country sees you as adult enough to be tried as an adult for committing a crime. If you're adult enough to be held to the behavioral standards of an adult, you're an adult with respect to your sexual rights. The alleged "science" that claims the brain isn't developed until 25 and "mUh pOwEr dyNaMicS" and all this other shit is fraudulent garbage created by roasties to push their agenda, but most of the left is made up of those same roasties and terminal midwits who screech about how the capitalists are conspiring against the common folk but will never be able to admit the existence of organized scientific conspiracies because they want to seem "smart" to their midwit dipshit friends. Ironically, this makes them extremely dumb, perhaps moreso than the dumbass Nazis on /pol/ who at least understand that the corporate-sponsored university system is not their friend and does not have academic honesty ranked highly on its priority list.

inb4 utter faggots come in saying "cringe" and other cancerous normie shit because leftists reveal their true sexual capitalist colors when the sexual marketplace or incels are mentioned. At least the rightists are relatively honest about being shitbags. Double-tier age of consent laws favor the Chads, the sexual bourgeoisie who are likely to get laid as teenagers. Chris Hansen shit is literally sexual classism and most "anti-capitalist" leftists are completely onboard with catering to the sexually rich and privileged, to the point of demanding that any skepticism of it be censored and openly supporting the US military-industrial complex if it brings agecuckery to nations that previously lacked it. Then again, leftists support lots of widely accepted things that they think make them the Resistance (TM) and shit while actually being complete cucks to the establishment, but that's millennials for you.

>>4439
Patronizing cunt. This is why zoomers call millennials 30-year-old boomers. This mentality's similarity to boomer helicopter parenting is ridiculously on-the-nose and most millennials lack the self-awareness to realize this.

>inb4 hey, it's hebe-kun from 8ch/leftypol/, I know it's you because only you could write this much about AOC, where the fuck have you been
Yes, it is. I left leftism because of leftists' intransigence on the age of consent. I came back after years of absence to see how leftists have fared since then, especially since Biden forgave student loan debt and a bunch of leftylennials went back to being liberals. My initial investigation has revealed that most of you are still massive fucking assholes and liars. Incels are right to reject leftism because leftists openly seek to enslave and kill them. Inceldom has the based anti-capitalist parts of leftism without the cancer, which is almost the entirety of leftism at this point. That's why inceldom has grown massively while leftism declines, probably irreversibly.
<orangetext is a fun new feature that wasn't here when I last posted on leftist imageboards. Also, I'd bet a lot of breadline vouchers that literally a single post from me will be enough to make the mods here go full Stalin, whatever free speech pretext they maintain.
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 No.5225

>>5223
>No, faggot, it literally makes the least sense of any social policy ever implemented, and only fucking boomer-tier millennials who've never known anything except Chris Hansen retardation actually think this shit makes sense - even the actual boomers and Gen Xers who started this agecuck shitshow know it's all a fucking scam. You are either fucking capable of consent or you are not, simple as. There is no room for "nuance" here because "nuance" when used by feminists is just code for "blatant hypocrisy that serves to artificially inflate my roastie sexual market value".

>Patronizing cunt. This is why zoomers call millennials 30-year-old boomers. This mentality's similarity to boomer helicopter parenting is ridiculously on-the-nose and most millennials lack the self-awareness to realize this.

Millennials have become even worse than the Baby Boomers with their moral hysteria.

Millennials have been castrated by helicooter parenting and the consequential arrested development which encourages Disney Adult culture.


Millennials think 18 - 24 dating someone three to five yars or more their senior is pedophilia.

I think its because Millennials are insecure about their own sluggish maturation.

Theyre even saying that cringe/awkwardness is essential to teenage years.
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 No.5228

>>5225
I don't even blame my generation for the Disney Adult culture. The world is an awful place filled with injustice and evil and God has failed all of us. But I think the situation with the moronic moral panicking is the result of the boomers' deliberate sabotage of all succeeding generations. /leftypol/ has spent the past decade extensively cataloguing the economic portion of this sabotage, but /pol/ (at least when you can get a thread without tradcucks) has done a better job at the social portion. Only taking the best parts of both analyses can get us to the truth.

Boomer parents almost unanimously demanded that millennial men forgo sex and relationships and focus entirely on school. They did this not out of concern for our future but so we would be more effective corporate slaves for them. There were two kinds of boomer parenting with respect to their daughters, the kind that wanted to lock their daughter in a cage until she's 35, and the kind that let their teen daughters slut around with Chad and threatened non-Chads with lynchings or uyghur rape in prison if we even looked at their little darlings because said little darling was the daughter of a wretched harpy and a weak simp who intended to make us into her betabuxxers later on and would never have stood for her getting married to a man even slightly older because that would have ruined their plan to treat their daughter as a method of getting hold of non-Chad men's money by proxy. They were going to plot our entire lives for us and we had no say in it and were to be treated as incompetent dullards incapable of making our own decisions. This from the generation that can't even send an e-mail without asking a millennial or a zoomer for help.

As a result, many of us never learned how to make decisions because our parents never gave us the opportunity to learn this. And since this style of parenting is the only kind that millennials have ever known, it's what a lot of us will end up carrying over to the way we treat younger people. Millennials believe the bullshit about the brain not being done developing until well after it actually is (which occurs at about 16 MAXIMUM according to any non-pozzed study) because the "parenting" that we were given reflects this, and we're almost guaranteed to do this when you combine that with roasties' incentive to bar men from going after younger, hotter girls.

Also Princess Jasmine is a sexy 16-year-old sand princess and a respectable choice of waifu along with Mulan and Ariel, also 16. It's funny to see cuckservatives attacking Disney for promoting "child marriage" and echoing the soyest of soy feminists on this, and for the most part not even realizing that they're using feminist talking points. I like Jasmine the best of them because she actually rejected Aladdin when he pretended to be Prince Ali, proving that she cares about more than just looks, which is about as much as you can ever expect from a woman.
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 No.5230


>>5228
again, millennials have internalised this chauvinism and are treating their juniors even worse than how boomers treated them.

Millennials (and Gen X) are advocating to raise the age of majority to twenty five despite being immature past thirty.

Theyreeven saying teens having afterschool jobs is child abuse.

Also female youths are overrated. Theyre nice to look at and all but the adoration they get goes to their head and the men that cater them assume female youths are perfect in every way
Male youths are pathologised and even mocked.
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 No.5231

>>5230
>having afterschool jobs is child abuse
Having jobs at all is abuse, brah. Fully automated luxury gay space communism now.

>female youths are overrated
I see you are a connoisseur of robot girls.

Other issues related to this: In principle, the porn age and prostitution age should be whatever the general age of consent is. In practice, traditional porn and prostitution will experience a large decline in participation in a socialist society because financially secure women will not feel the need to sell themselves for money. Only the biggest nymphos will still perform in porn. Animated porn, especially porn generated by AI, and robot girlfriends will also take a big chunk out of these industries. So teen girls performing in porn should be like abortion: safe, legal and rare. Unfortunately Americans across the political board are enormous faggots and are already moving to ban petite robot girls (and probably all robot girls if the feminists have their way) and AI-created porn that appears to be of an under-18 girl. Land of the free strikes again.

And speaking of the intersection between sexual customs and technology, I'm amazed by the amount of faggotry that it takes for people to pretend that teen girls "cannot give informed consent" in the post-IT revolution era when the largest current producer of "muh ebil CP" is teenagers themselves with their fucking phones. Of course this lack of ability to give consent only applies if her partner is a productive man with a programming job, but if it's a useless teen Chad faggot whose only "contribution" to society for his entire life will be a shitty rap album on SoundCloud then it's just fine. This is just the most preposterous fucking bullshit that everybody's expected to play along with. This point should have been publicly raised in like fucking 2008, but that would require America to not be a feminist police state.
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 No.5232

>>5231
>Having jobs at all is abuse, brah. Fully automated luxury gay space communism now.


Wrong. Compulsory schooling is abuse.
Also how do you think fully automatic spaceship luxiry communism will come about?

>Of course this lack of ability to give consent only applies if her partner is a productive man with a programming job, but if it's a useless teen Chad faggot whose only "contribution" to society for his entire life will be a shitty rap album on SoundCloud then it's just fine.

Thats kinda hebeandrophobic.
Also alot of those adult males perving on teen girls arent that much better in prospects.
Again, why should men be required to prive the.selves as proper mtes but women dont have to?

Also, the rest of your post shows hebegynophilia.
I dont have any moral peeves about i but it pisses me off tgat female youths are showered in attention and synpathy while male youths are pathologised.

Also, statutory rape also applies to male youths as well.
Men go to jail for sleeping with teenage boys but its not talked about as much because society doesnt appreciate male youths as much.


This hebegynophilia is why teen girls can grt away with murder.

>This point should have been publicly raised in like fucking 2008, but that would require America to not be a feminist police state.

Its not feminism. Its Puritanism. America has been poisoned by Puritan ohilosopy since the seventeenth century.

As for robotoc sex dolls, theyre pathologised because "muh incels" and plain old "loserdom".

I would prefer sex dolls over actual women, especially teenage girls.

You dont have to pay for them constantly theyre quiet and can be stashed away.
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 No.5237

>>5223
Hebe-kun? I wonder what kind of boards you visited, hyuck hyuck hyuck
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 No.5355

>posting about ayylmao of consent on Tor website
>"session terminated due to prohibited content"

lmao what the fuck is the point of your site then, gaywads.

>>5231
>Of course this lack of ability to give consent only applies if her partner is a productive man with a programming job, but if it's a useless teen Chad faggot whose only "contribution" to society for his entire life will be a shitty rap album on SoundCloud then it's just fine.
Whenever I make my next post like this I'm going to say doctors or engineers instead of programmers. Programmers are a bunch of cucked faggots and almost all of them do NOT deserve PTP. AI can't replace these nignogs fast enough.

>inb4 doctors fucked us all during COVID
Doctors killed millions of cancerous normalfags with the vaccines, so they must have done something right.

>>5237
Boards that aren't cucked, thanks for asking. Faggot.
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 No.5363

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I'm not in favor of adults having sex with teenagers, but it should be pretty obvious to everyone by now that the "age of consent" laws only really exist as a way to discipline the plebs/proles and reserve teenagers for the predilections and rituals of the extremely wealthy and powerful. I think in the upper tiers, even men and women who have no particular interest in teen sex probably still engage in it from time to time, as a way to show off to their friends.
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 No.5367

>>5363
Teenagers are adults biologically.
In fact, the idea of teens as children is a recent socio-legal addition in the seventeenth/eighteenth century and even then it was reserved only for upper class maidens.

The antics associated with the trenage years have nothing to due with hir.ones or brain development.

It all has to due to with wrongfully oppressing young adults of rihhtful autonomy.
Theres a reason why societyhad rites of passage.

When we took young people out of the workforce and trapping them in a purgatory of extended childhood, thats when the problems started.

Nowadays, 18 -24 is seen as too young for marriage or loans or car rentals.

Studies show that teenage rebellion is now delayed to the early twenties.
And adolescent behaviirs are becoming increasingly common in the thirties.

If our ancestors up until the nineteenth century looked at what we have done, they would cringe so hard.
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 No.5371

Anti-agecucks have focused on old hags and their jealousy as being responsible for this witch hunt (not without reason), but they're not the only contributors. Other than the roasties and their desire to ban out their younger and more attractive competition from the dating market under flimsy bullshit pretexts that they in their Yoda-tier wisdom have the right to invalidate somebody else's consent because their feels said so, there are a lot of people who have a lot of shitty reasons for supporting agecuckery:

>Normalfags/Chads who got laid in high school and derive their entire self-esteem from the fact that they got laid in high school and the nerds (whose skills are essential for maintaining society) didn't, and will never contribute a single fucking thing of value
>Corrupt elites who want to maintain a bludgeon that they can use to suppress dissent by accusing dissidents of being le ebil pedo, whether they're actually guilty of breaking the cucked laws that deserve to be broken or not
>Faggot divorce lawyers who lose money if shitty overreaching laws are done away with because young marriages are more stable
>Faggot private prison owners who lose money if shitty overreaching laws are done away with because fewer people will be in jail
>Faggot journalists who lose money if pseudo-moral hysteria is done away with because nobody will read their clickbait anymore
>Boomer bitches who let their daughters whore themselves out to Chad in high school due to the roastie mother wanting to pass on her mistakes to the next generation and the father being a simping, cucked faggot and realizing that they won't be able to find a betabux nerd to get her hitched to at 35 if he has younger and better options
>Racists from non-white races who understand that whites are the only race cucked enough to actually follow these laws and want whites gone through birth rate decline (not that I actually care about this because whites are the faggots who made these laws a thing to begin with)
>Military-industrial complex uyghurkikes who have been using agecuck hysteria to sell us on wars with nations that aren't as cucked as Ameriturdland
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 No.5472

Bumping this thread for maximum roastie seethe in case crystal cafe really did find us. GTFO whores.
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 No.5473

>>5472
In case it's real, don't GTFO pls, instead come post at the SFPZ (Special Female Poster Zone) https://leftychan.net/R9K/res/5175.html
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 No.6104

hot take: Jeffrey Epstein was a utopian socialist like Robert Owen, because he was bourgeois (like Own) and envisioned a world where things worked differently. For Epstein it was one where you could have access to younger girls
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 No.6107

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 No.6629

>>6107
You assume that all women over thirty five age terribly like whites.


You should go to Hispanic or Negroid countries.
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 No.6634

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Texas doctor who said nine-year-olds can safely give birth appointed to maternal mortality committee
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/23/texas-anti-abortion-activist
CUNY IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
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 No.6635

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>>6634
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 No.6637

>>6634
kill urself
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 No.6638

>>4421
i'm not supportive of the whole "teens are mindless children who have no sex drive and can't make informed sexual decisions"

Girls' reproductive age starts at 12, so gatekeeping it by six years is just conservatism.

At the same time, I don't find children or early teens attractive, and people who advocate sex with people under 12-13 have some sort of issue the need to work on and not spread it as if anyone is going to be convinced by it. People who actively go for children are basically abusers whether they intend to be or not.
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 No.6639

>>6638
i don't really have an opinion on AOC except that it shouldn't be lower than an age at which most women can reproduce and have sex without pain or psychological distress.

Also, the whole idea of "grooming teenagers" is dumb. When I was a teen I met a male "groomer" trying to woo me. I caught on in 3 minutes and stopped it. If you are a teen and not mentally retarded and give into that, you aren't being groomed, you are making a conscious decision.

Actual children on the other hand, people who are not teens, can absolutely be groomed as they aren't sexual and often do not have the confidence to say no to an adult, something teenagers are quite adept at, even skilled at
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 No.6640

>>6638
going to hedge my statement though that the AOC shouldn't be lower than 17-18 unless society gives teens more autonomy, property, land rights, which it has no interest in doing, so the whole AOC debate is pointless and not interesting
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 No.6641


>>6640
a good argument for keeping the AOC where it is is that people are too impressionable when they are unemployed and living with parents

but this also makes sex with adult NEETs effectively rape so

tell a government worker that a 35 year old neet woman is being beaten repeatedly by their father, but is also not legally disabled. they'll just be like 'ah well that sucks for her', and not do anything.

We need to give more property and land rights to all people who are without land and property rights and who are above reproductive age
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 No.6645

>>6637
t. bitter old foid
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 No.6649

>>6641
Then you wolould have to extend it to the twenties as well
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 No.6650

>>6639
Most teens whom are groomed sre often loner kids who are desperate for attention but then felt regret and anger when they see their peers having "better" relationships than them.

And notice alot of steoires of underage grooming always come out ten years after the incident?

And most grooming incidents involving teens dont even involve physical sex?
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 No.7040

i wanted to post something but i forgot
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 No.7092

For vagene, puberty. Before that, only oral and manual should be allowed
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 No.7093

>>7092
between who?
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 No.7097

>>7092
what about peen?
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 No.7098

>>7092
>manual
What's manual?
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 No.7343

old hags get so mad when they find out dudes in their 30s and 40s and up are dating teenagers 😂 😂 😂 stay stressed, it'll age u faster hoe
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 No.7345

Pedomaxxing is legit, getting with non teen girls is some sucker shit.
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 No.7350

>>7345
pedophilia is going after toddlers.
you mean hebephilia
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 No.7351

>>7350
Semantics
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 No.7356

grown men obsessing over the age of consent are weirdos…one of the main reasons the age of consent exists is so that teenagers who are the same age that engage in sexual activities don't get punish by the law…whats not clicking?? the minute I hear any of them start talking about 18 yr olds I side-eye them immediately because that's the age that's "ok" to discuss publicly but imo those are dogwhistles
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 No.7365

>>7356
whats more weird is the moral obsession with youth.

Society is far too obsessed with what teens and vicenaraians do with their genitals in private.

Adults criminalise young adults for expreasing deaire for sex and romance deapite paying for PEDs to revigorate their sex life.
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 No.7367

Thoughts on frontal lobe maturation?
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 No.7374

>>7367
Brain developmdnt is a misunderstood phenomenom.
What happens is that ypur brain doesnt finish development at 25.
It starts dying.

The brain development theory ignores the social conditioning of youth before the twentieth century.
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 No.7375

>>7374
Brain development is a fucking meme. It's finished by 16 at the absolute maximum. The study that the feminist media claimed shows brain development continuing until 25 doesn't even say that, but liberal midwits have never actually read a single scientific paper. They're just trying to look smart and virtuous in the eyes of their fellow cucks, so they'll go along with whatever stupid bullshit authority tells them.

I mean seriously, look at the Trump crowd and tell me there's any significant brain development happening there at any point.
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 No.7376

abolitionists when you want to abolish age of consent laws:
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 No.7381

>>7375
And again, its being promoted by liberals to justify adolescence as a sociopsychological institution.

It reinforces the capitalists to sell security devices to parents and teachers to keep young adults in an infantilised state.
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 No.7382

>>6638
why do we focus on female biology for the indication of biological maturation while ignoring male development?
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 No.7386

>>7382
because people care less about males and the age of consent. The general consensus is that if an older woman were to fuck a younger male, the male would probably have enjoyed it, whereas if it was flipped, an older male and a younger female, the female would be left traumatised. So the age of consent only really exists for females. The
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 No.7397

>>7386
Most cases of female youth x male elder are often initiated or greenlit by the female party.

And alot of female minors enjoy sex with their male elders.

Its only if the male elder is unworldly, broke, ugly, or plain that she screams "RAPE".
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 No.7398

>>7386
Also for got: most cases of pedophilia, boys are the bigger victims than girls.

Male youth are disregarded as comic relief, meant only for laughs and patronisation, kept as pets for moral experimentation.
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 No.7399

>>7398
What do you think if someone were to invoke the patriarchy as a counter-argument?
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 No.7401

>>7399
??
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 No.7403

>>7397
I'd have to see some proof first, because I'm not really sure about the numbers when it comes to those sorts of things, but I don't doubt that it could be like that once people reach their teens. I'd argue that the numbers would probably be equal, that an equal amount of males and females make approaches towards older adults when they're younger.
>>7399
As a counter argument against what?
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 No.7416

>>7403
women are extremely age sensitive when shooping around for sex ad romance.
Young women will get the ick if the male courting her is found out to be younger than her by six moons.

They think age numbers are virtue points for males.

Of course young women will self-exempt from using their age as a moral compass of virtue.
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Also, male elders are hebegynophilic and dont show as much revernce and appreciation towards male youth.

They talk down to them or joke around with them but never really respect them as human beings.

But they will worship fenale youths just based on looks amd cutesy gestures alone.
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 No.7517

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Only men can be pedophiles
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 No.7521

>>7517
>17 is too young for 22

>but 22 is too young for thirty

>but 17 is old enough to go to prison for crime


The creation of adolescence has caused a behavioral sink
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 No.7902

ITT: smelly Paki Brits and Zigguroid Slavoids
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 No.7906

File: 1735659544374.jpg ( 48.67 KB , 490x467 , NPC vs MAP.jpg )

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 No.7907

>>7906
>>7906
You realize not everything should be abolished right? See this is why I quit being an anarkiddie.
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 No.7916

File: 1735916855694.jpg ( 76.25 KB , 573x705 , HINDUSTANILION5.jpg )

ITT: gay pedos
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 No.7921

>>7916
Pedophilia would be going after literal toddlers.
This is hebephilia.
Also in those days, thirteen was an adult and they were sent to fight wars and shit.
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 No.7922

>>7907
I think adolescence should be abolished as a sociobiological institution.
It encourages immaturity.
Irony is, "pedophilia" is more common in systems where the youth have no rights, such as chirches and schools.

The worst part is how the West wants to extend adolescence throughout the twenties and want the rest of the world to follow suit

Youth is now associated with loserdom and awkwardness is seen as essential.

Life skills are seen as unnecessary to teach in schools nowadays.
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 No.7923

>>7921
But you see that's not how it works. If you lust after girls that are younger than what your society deems mature enough, you are literally a pedo. The fact that you have to make this semantic distinction is not a good look.
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 No.7924

>>7923
NTA
This varies, no? In a lot of non-anglo societies 13-14 are completely fine but in America it's prison worthy. My father met my mother when she was around 14. The age gap wasn't great but he was an adult.
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 No.7925

>>7923
I don't give a shit how it looks to a country full of cucks. Fuck westoid society and fuck you. 16 is a fucking adult as far as any reasonable person is concerned and if you try to stop me from fucking a willing 16-year-old girl, I will actually unalive you. Fucking sick of your pearl clutching. Happy fucking new year, faggot.
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 No.7926

>>7923
Why do imageboard users always say this?
This is the truth.
Pedophilia is not the same as hebephilia.
Yet they get butthurt if I confuse leftism with liberalism.
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 No.7927

>>7925
>>7924
Western Europe and North America will soon say that 18-24 is a child.
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 No.7933

>>7927
Already happened. It's not limited to the West though. Even in North Korea marriage is being delayed to 30s.
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 No.7941

>>7933
Yea but I mean to say that the West and its ethnogeographic associates may eventually legally extend childhood to 25.
We are already have social laws discouraging 18-24 from adults activities.
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 No.9339

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/23/loneliness-is-rising-younger-workers-and-social-media-users-feel-it-most.html
>Loneliness is rising: Younger workers and social media users feel it most
<(2020)

Why don't Leftists advocate for lowering the age of consent or getting rid of taboos in age-difference relationships?
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 No.9340

>>9339
I think that we should enforce Romeo and Juliet laws but not lowering the age of consent. I think we should be less harsh on people under the age of 25 for being horny though
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 No.9341

>>9340
posts like these are part of the problem. Many young people are quite mature for their age and it was normal in history
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 No.9342

>>9340
Wrong.
“Romeo and Juliet”laws are what causes this problem in the first place.

Also, being under 25 isn’t a pathology for having sex drive or other worldly inclination.
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 No.9344

>>9341
There's no such thing as "mature for there age" This is a delusion used by pedos who want to justify their own actions. Regardless of how intellegent a person appears to be you have to keep it in the context of the fact that they have only been alive 17 years at the most. Just having a sex drive doesn't justify anything. Animals have sex drives and yet bestiality is still illegal.

>>9342
How? In my State that is how it is run and its never had an issue. What is really an issue is hard laws that state an 18 year old cannot have sex with a 16 year old even though they are both still mentally children, basically.
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 No.9345

>>7927
It's adult light.
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 No.9346

>>9344
>still mentally children
No they aren't.

I'm chiming in entirely about this, because this is a stupid lie people repeat all the time. There are really people on the internet now who act like completing puberty is just nothing because at some point they heard the popsci fact that there's a part of the brain that keeps growing until roughly 25 and it was misrepresented as, like, the final change which makes the entirety of difference. Yet at roughly 30, testosterone starts dropping in men.

People continue to age, their brains continue to change, and the only change which is actually radically, visibly noticeable in behavior is the start and completion of puberty. A child, a pre-pubescent child, to clarify, cannot understand sex. Like, physically, they don't have the same response to stimuli as an adult would, and if they do then a lot of the time that means they've been abused and developed faster than average as a physiological response to that abuse. An 18-year-old is not "mentally a child," nor is a 16-year-old, and I'm not even commenting on the ethics of consent laws when I say this (I care very little about consent laws, there are way more important things in the world), it's just a fundamentally wrong statement to equate the mental functioning of someone who has completed puberty with that of someone who hasn't, and the idea that people hit 25 and suddenly start making better choices regardless of whether or not they have the world experience to understand how their choices affect people from observation is just a complete nonsense. Adulthood, more than anything, is marked by adult responses to sexual stimuli and adult levels of libido; and this, not rational decision making, is what characterizes an adult brain. It's even more impossible for me to think otherwise personally, because I worked in bars for years and if anything the people who were like 21 were more cautious than the guys who were 40+; the best I could possibly say is that the supposed radical change by way of brain growth that people on Twitter bring up whenever this comes up must have skipped like 5 generations at least. Like, if the 21s, the 20s, and the late teens are "mentally children," there's no way I could ever justify claiming that the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s aren't also "mentally children."
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 No.9347

>>9346
No you retard faggot.
Puberty has nothing to do with it. It's about life experiences which you obviously have had zero to understand. A person who is 14 or 13 even 16 or 17 has not been in situations where, normally, they have been mislead or taken advantage of. This naivety can be taken advantage of by full grown adults which is fucking sick. You are a sick individual.
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 No.9348

>>9347
>Puberty has nothing to do with it.
Completion of puberty is literally the entirety of it.
Everything else is secondary. That's not a moral statement, it's a statement about how human sexual development works. It's not just an external physical process, it effects the brain and how people process stimuli, and that's not up for debate.

>It's about life experiences which you obviously have had zero to understand.
You fucking retard, I literally went into this here:
<the idea that people hit 25 and suddenly start making better choices regardless of whether or not they have the world experience to understand how their choices affect people from observation is just a complete nonsense.
Maybe read me before you reply, you fucking idiot.

Also, I worked in bars for years. I have way more experience dealing with people directly and seeing how they make decisions than you do.
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 No.9349

>>9347
Also!
>A person who is 14 or 13 even 16 or 17 has not been in situations where, normally, they have been mislead or taken advantage of.
I have no fucking idea what your life was like by 17, but this is a ridiculous statement. Did you live in a plastic bubble or something?
The idea that the average person has never been mislead or lied to or abused before 18 is just patently fucking absurd, and so is the argument you're making. A world-weary 9-year-old and an isolated 17-year-old are not on even terms as far as capacity to consent; a pre-pubescent child cannot mentally process sexual stimuli. Like at all.
Pre-pubescent children who are sexually abused repeatedly literally can be physiologically altered by the abuse, hitting puberty at ages which are unhealthily early and responding to stimuli in ways which are abnormal for that age. It is not normal for a 6-year-old to think about sex and physically respond to sexual thoughts in the way that it's normal for a 17-year-old to think about sex. An adult understanding of sex does not occur without the completion of puberty and the effects of hormonal changes on growth and libido, it's not just a matter of outside experience, the physical process of sexual development comes with radical changes in perception, and trying to handwave these as though they don't matter or as though it's simply a matter of '"experience" alone is pedo behavior.

When I say that a prepubescent child is incapable of understanding sex, that's not rhetorical. "Naivety" has nothing to do with it, although prepubescent children are also especially susceptible to manipulation. If you get raped before puberty and it isn't frequent enough to cause traumatic early puberty, you won't even fully understand what was going on until you hit puberty naturally. Like, to a small child sex as a process does not make sense. I'm not a "sick individual" for pointing that out, you're a sick individual for trying to obscure it. Kill yourself you fucking piece of shit.
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 No.9350

>>9349
>Did you live in a plastic bubble.

The average person does not live in the getto you fucking uyghur brained retard.
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 No.9352

>>9350
Guy who has lived his entire life in a plastic bubble when he sees a person who had any negative experience with life at all growing up: "Is this a ghetto hood uyghur?"
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 No.9353

>>9352
>Pedophile has to convince him self the person he is arguing with online is XYZ to justify the fact he sexually assaults children regularly.
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 No.9354

>>9353
You're describing yourself, I'm not the one who can't tell the difference between an 18-year-old and a literal child you fucking diddler.
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 No.9355

>>9344
By this logic, adults with developmental disabilities should not be allowed sex.

The definition of childhood was expanded to begin with
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 No.9356

>>9347
In theory.
Age numbers aren’t inherent personality traits.
There’s many adults whom are take. Advantage of in situations you describe
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 No.9357

>>9344
>16 and 18 is still mentally children

The only people who believe this are usually failed adults who had delayed maturity
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 No.9358

>>9355
Many of them aren't. I know a guy who was put in prison for 10 years because he had sex with a downsyndrome girl.

>>9354
that's not what I said at all you knuckle dragger.

>>9357
So you had everything figured out at 18?
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 No.9359

>>9358
Most people over thirty are still unable to figure things out, you’re just grasping at straws to justify patronizing young adults.
The idea that age numbers are inherently virtue points assumes that everyone everywhere lives life according to western sitcoms since day one.

Outside the first world, people begin their adult lives at fourteen, hell it was common in the first world up until the 1980s
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 No.9360

>>9353
>having sex with young adults who are capable of sexuality is pedophilia
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 No.9361

>>9350
You’re the one making strawmen assuming that kids have never been in situations where they’re duped.

>>9345
Only in our modern times
There are articles talking about extending the age span of adolescence.

Millennials, zoomers, and even Gen X are advocating for this despite accusing boomers of being chauvinists.
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 No.9362

>>7923
So if society deems age forty the start of adulthood, does that mean I’m a pedo for going after twenty-seven year olds?
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 No.9363

>>7098
Manual means “hand”
>>7351
If that’s semantics, then distinguishing between different types of leftism is also semantics.
Distinguishing anti-settler sentiment from Judeophobia in anti-Zionism is semantics
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 No.9364

>>9361
Here's the thing; Everything is contingent on the times they are in. To imply otherwise is anachronistic. We learn and gather data as people over centuries and millennia and that data comes together to form out collective opinions; super ego.
I'm ok with raising the age limmit and just because "zoomers" started this train of logic doesn't mean it is wrong, or, some how faulty.

>>9359
At thirty I had a house a car and a job making 100k a year. at 20 I was drinking and partying and hanging around with friends dropping acid trying to find the meaning of life. You not being able to leave your mothers basement doesn't preclude everyone else doing that as well.
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 No.9367

>>9364
>At thirty I had a house a car and a job making 100k a year. at 20 I was drinking and partying and hanging around with friends dropping acid trying to find the meaning of life.

So you prob my point.
Th reason why you think twenty is too young to be adult is because you decided to remain adolescent at twenty.

Also:
>Here's the thing; Everything is contingent on the times they are in. To imply otherwise is anachronistic. We learn and gather data as people over centuries and millennia and that data comes together to form out collective opinions; super ego.
I'm ok with raising the age limmit and just because "zoomers" started this train of logic doesn't mean it is wrong, or, some how faulty.

So you think being a child at twenty is "progressive"?

Just because you were partying at fe twenty doesn't mean everyone else was or is doing.


If we were to go with your logic, we will have vicenarian high schoolers.
By extending the age span of adolescence, you're just steeping immaturity.

You are making excuses to infantilize young adults because you're projecting your younger self
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 No.9369

>>9364
>I'm ok with raising the age limmit and just because "zoomers" started this train of logic doesn't mean it is wrong, or, some how faulty.

If it's not wrong, would you be ok with having childhood end at thirty five?
It's not faulty logic.
It should b ok to be an aimless awkward student in your late twenties/early thirties because "everything is contingent to the times they are in".

It's already ok for adults to collect Funko pops and bully kids online over cartoons
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 No.9370

>>9364
>Here's the thing; Everything is contingent on the times they are in. To imply otherwise is anachronistic. We learn and gather data as people over centuries and millennia and that data comes together to form out collective opinions; super ego.

So I guess if society decided that Israel is a legitimate nation-state that deserves to kill off Palestinians, it's not wrong.

If cisheterosexual men being profiled on dating sites for "wrong speak" is contingent to ourtime, it's not wrong.

If little kids are given free gender hormor therapy without parental consent because it's "contingent to the times" it's not faulty
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 No.9371

>>9367
That isnt what I said. 20 is an adult but it isn't "An adult" It is an inbetween stage of life where people are young adults and should be treated as such just the same way as people are teenagers and people are children people are young adults. It is another stage of life.

>So you tyhink being a child at twenty is progressive

Holy fuck irl I would punch you in the face over how up your own ass you are.
>I have to keep painting his argument as hyperbolic strawmen because I cannot actually form any coherent logic about my child rape desires.

It's not anything but factual you dumb mother fucker. People are not born knowing how the world works we discover it.
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 No.9372

>>9370
You fags are incapable of nuance.
no one said 20 year olds are children.
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 No.9373

>>9372
Youre the insufferable one.
Also you implied thatty are.

>>9371
Once again, this is due to infantilization.
Teenagehood as a lifestage didn't exist until two centuries ago and is now only ring adapted globally.

Now, we have "emerging adulthood".
You are either an adult or a child.
There's no "in-between ".
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 No.9374

>>9373
You are such a retard it's unbearable.

>Everyone is just born knowing everything socially and culturally and that's that!

What a fucking retard

Also learn correct grammar you low autism score moron.
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 No.9375

>>9374
Now whose making strawman?
You're using the "nobody is born knowing anything" to suggest age numbers are automatic determinators of personhood.

Of course no one is born knowing anything but thats why we learn especially when it comes to technical skills.

Most people nowadays have a disturbing lack of technical skills appropriate for their age.

The way our modern society demarcated childhood and adulthood is ineffective.

The fact that we have to make new labels for the prime age stage of life while reducing autonomy suggests infantilization.

If twenty is not an adult but a young adult*, then what does that really entail?

*(Using your dialect)

You're saying they are senior toddlers.
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 No.9376

Why do people lump middle aged with elderly?
They're not the same at all.
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 No.9377

>>9374
You're implying that young adults are automatically defective/fragile beings though
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 No.9379

>>9375
>The way our modern society demarcated childhood and adulthood is ineffective.

Yes I agree we should go back to when children were working in mines.

Again you are a retard barely worth conversing with.

Have you considered thee demarcations exist for a reason?

>>9377

No i'm not you retards cant read apperently.
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 No.9381

>>9379
>disagreement with the infantilised treatment of young adults means you want children to work in mines

I’ve read your posts and you explicitly said you’re ok with raising the age of majority.

You said that “things are contingent relative to their times”.

It’s become common for the twenties to be “finding yourself” which is just a slew of dead end jobs and angsty hopes and zero technical skills.
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 No.9501

File: 1765598809893.jpg ( 118.18 KB , 842x872 , 83e925ca-7e47-47ca-bff4-ae….jpg )

Will Trump finally normalize pedophilia when the Epstein files are released?
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 No.9506

>>9501
Maybe not because he's Republican and US has a two-party spectacle
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 No.9508

Fellow leftists, what are your thought on differentiating between 'working class pedophiles' and 'bourgeois pedophiles'?
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 No.9541

>>9501
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-statement-on-house-passage-of-h-r-4371
>House narrowly passes bill that would subject unaccompanied immigrant children to invasive bodily searches, prolonged mandatory immigration detention

Looks like we're one step away from having government run child brothels. So yeah, we're pretty close to having pedophilia normalized AND legalized.
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 No.9542

>>9541
So why are we not voting? We literally could've prevented this.
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 No.9543

>>4445
>The kind of guys who bang younger chicks are smart enough not to talk about it on social media, with dorky leftists, with or betamales (big overlap there tbh)
He's out of line, but he's right.
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 No.9546

>>9541
This is what happens when the tyranny of the state bans working class pedophiles and ephebophiles and oppresses them, meanwhile bourgeois pedophiles and ephebophiles get a pass to do this.
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 No.9547

>>4445
>>9543
Stirnerism, not even once.
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 No.9553

>>9542
>You didn't vote hard enough!
What's Reddit like this time of year.
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 No.9555

>>9553
>it's Reddit to stand up against state-sanctioned pedophilia
Yikes…
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 No.9556

>>9555
>Voting will stop kids from getting raped in prison.
Are you waiting on the inevitable leaked CP that will come out of this you randy rascal.
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 No.9557

>>9556
https://www.cpusa.org/article/red-scare-2-0-launched-act-now-to-save-democracy/
Red Scare 2.0 launched: Act now to save democracy! – Communist Party USA

NSPM-7, together with Trump’s Sept. 23 Executive Order designating the amorphous “antifa” trend as a terrorist organization, seeks to criminalize dissent while writing an upside-down narrative about “radical left violence” at a time when research shows political violence over the last several years to be overwhelmingly a phenomenon of the white supremacist and fascist far-right.


This is what you support btw.
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 No.9558

>>9547
>t. no hoes tankie
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 No.9563

>>9541
>https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/deceased-baby-girl-delivered-to-funeral-home-without-her-organs/
Looks like they're going to harvest their organs too a la Israel.
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 No.9591

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/19/epstein-documents-release-friday-deadline-00699935

Why did anyone think they'd actually release the files.
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 No.9629

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=116639&page=1&page=1
>Michael Borack, a forensic psychiatrist at the University of Cincinnati Medical School, has evaluated many pedophiles, and says Jackson does not fit the usual profile.
Apparently, several universities have studied the psychology of Michael Jackson and all come to the same conclusion that he does not fit the profile of a pedophile.
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 No.9630

>>9629
Michael Jackson takes control of the Beatles’ publishing rights | August 14, 1985 https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/august-14/michael-jackson-takes-control-of-the-beatles-publishing-rights

Akon: Michael Jackson Accusations Started when He Refused to Sell Beatles Catalog (Part 12) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEuEzKGe6FY

Ron Newt on Getting Offered $200K To Say Michael Jackson Touched His Kids (Flashback) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viyD1G_WuX8

Aaron Carter on His Mom Attempting a Money Grab Against Michael Jackson (Part 8) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtSSeOcZxok

Scott Ross Investigated Mom of Michael Jackson Accuser: She's a Scammer & Liar (Part 4) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5tl6Oa6514

Lord Jamar on Russia Hiding Michael Jackson: MJ Became a Target After That (Part 10) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtJfpZ2FXME


Michael Jackson - They Don’t Care About Us (Brazil Version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJL6nfu__Q
Michael Jackson - They Don't Care About Us (Prison Version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1pqi8vjTLY
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 No.9632

>>4421
The age of consent become as high as it is only during 20th century from the 10-14 years it was before. Teens used to be seen more sinful than adults. The studies constantly show that average male rates the physical attractiveness of teens under the age of 18 highest. Other studies show this also conincides with the peak of fertility which starts to lower for women at the age of 25. The libido is highest during the teenage years. We need a lot of persuasion and moralizing campaings to restrict sexual desire away from the peak fertile years to later years which are better for population growth control and won't interfere with institutional demands.
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 No.9633

>>9632
>10-14
It's still 14 plenty of places. Most places are 16 and up. This really isn't the problem you seem to think it is, and a lot of places even have loopholes specifically so teenage minors can legally date other teenagers. It did indeed used to average around 10 in the US at one point in the 1800s, and that was a bad thing. There's no practical necessity for setting it lower than 16, let alone below 13.
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 No.9634

>>9632
>10-14
I really don't give a fuck what ancient civilizations did or what old men find attractive.
But there is an absolute histrionic discourse around underage sex and it all cones from bitter old roasties mad that both Chad and their Betas aren't going to wife them up now that they're not in their 20's anymore.
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 No.9638

>>9632
>We need a lot of persuasion and moralizing campaings to restrict sexual desire away from the peak fertile years to later years which are better for population growth control and won't interfere with institutional demands.

That's already happening and the result is often babies born with more developmental disorders and more people entering into dysfunctional relationships due to waiting too long to settle down.

Also:
> Teens used to be seen more sinful than adults

They still are wrongfully viewed that way. Also, adolescence was a newfound practice.

>>9634
This
Most of the complaints against "pedophilia" are bitter older adults who cannot handle the fact that they're mortal
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 No.9639

>>9632
>We need a lot of persuasion and moralizing campaings to restrict sexual desire away from the peak fertile years to later years which are better for population growth control and won't interfere with institutional demands.

That's interfering with nature
Denying you g people their sexual autonomy to appeal to "population control"?

That sounds more like bitter boomers wanting to reclaim youth
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 No.9640

>>9632
This is why people used to get married in their mid-late teens early twenties.
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 No.9647

>>9633
>There's no practical necessity for setting it lower than 16, let alone below 13.

Sixteen would be too high. May as well make it eighteen.
Fourteen is good and no lower than that
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 No.9649

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 No.9651

File: 1766578487753.mp4 ( 7.93 MB , 576x1024 , a4b293a299953e73bdc885192d….mp4 )

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 No.9652

>>9651
So Trump is accused of raping a 14 year then watching the girl give birth to a baby who's uncle then murdered and dumped in Lake Michigan.
Damn these pedo accusations are reaching horror movie levels of absurdity.
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 No.9653

>>9652
Wait, I didn't read what happened, whats up?
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 No.9654

>>9653
See
>>9651
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 No.9655

>>9651
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 No.9657

File: 1766690689226.jpeg ( 50.76 KB , 600x561 , 600.jpeg )

>>9651
Do y'all think this is AI? Looks real to me.
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 No.9704

>>9651
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/trumps-alleged-infanticide-lake-michigan-sparks-frenzy-after-epstein-files-release-blowup-1765782
Damn, the only thing Trump has stopped short of is eating a baby. That'll probably come out with today's new batch of released files.
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 No.9705

File: 1766765516309.mp4 ( 17.32 MB , 576x1024 , 086802fdb8b8942db01a7d0fed….mp4 )

>>9501
IT BEGINS
Conservatives are normalizing pedophilia to protect Trump.
It's only a matter of time before it's perfectly legal to smash that sweet sweet cunny.
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 No.9706

>>9705
Conservatives: Children raped by Trump WERE ASKING FOR IT
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 No.9708

>>9657
No fucking way. Has to be ai right?
DID TRUMP BLOW BUBBA FOR REAL
The truth is stranger than fiction…
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 No.9732

>>9708
As a young black man who has hung out with older white men, I can assure you this is more likely than you think
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 No.9742

https://www.inc.com/sam-blum/class-action-complaint-alleges-the-startup-passes-distributes-illicit-content/91154966

>A model alleges the platform company encouraged her to post explicit content that it sold to subscribers known as ‘big spenders’ and ‘whales.’
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 No.9743

https://www.inc.com/sam-blum/class-action-complaint-alleges-the-startup-passes-distributes-illicit-content/91154966
Y'all don't believe me but we will see the day soon where pedophilia is legalized in some form. Probably the legalization of child brides will be first.
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 No.9749

>>9743
Irony is, "pedophilia" was legal in the past. Brooke Shields, the famous actress was a Playboy model at age twelve in 1975.

Also, it was normalized in the old days for teenage girls to become brides/gfs/baby momma's to older males.
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 No.9751

File: 1767059228775.png ( 53.46 KB , 1604x408 , age of consent united stat….png )

>>9749
>Irony is, "pedophilia" was legal in the past. Brooke Shields, the famous actress was a Playboy model at age twelve in 1975.
Fucking her was still illegal, fool.
Not saying no one did it, but it wasn't legal at that time.

>Also, it was normalized in the old days for teenage girls to become brides/gfs/baby momma's to older males.
uygha there were prepubescent child brides in "the old days." It's really weird the way you start with a claim that "pedophilia" was legal in the past, and you just completely avoid mentioning any of the actual historical truths which would support it in favor of a factoid about Brooke Shields and something about teenagers.

In the late 1800s, the average age of consent in the US was 10. Completely fucking unambiguous disturbing historical fact which supports your initial claim. You're welcome.
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 No.9753

>>9751
You're responding to some channer pedo. They have a 6th sense about anywhere where the age of consent is being discussed. You really shouldn't pay him any mind.
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 No.9784

https://people.com/erika-kirk-banned-from-romania-viral-claims-debunked-11867231
Was the GOP's obsession with pedos just projection the whole time?
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 No.9785

>>9784
This is the difference between 'working class pedophiles' and 'bourgeois pedophiles'
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 No.9788

Why does no one talk about the class character of pedophiles?

'Working class pedophiles' get jailed, meanwhile 'bourgeois pedophiles' get away with it.
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 No.9794

>>9788
This is basically true with everything in the west.

I was thinking the other day about the death penalty - in China, massively corrupt officials and businessmen get it. In the UK, it doesn't exist, and the UK, frankly, looks like a very barbaric society compared to China, where it seems like implementing the death penalty would be a step up… except, as long as the current British ruling class stays in power, it would actually be a step down. The US has it, but the US ruling class is full of mass murderers and rapists, but none of those wealthy, powerful killers are the ones on death row, only comparatively small time murderers with less power. In the UK, Prince Andrew was merely "stripped of his titles" over his participation in a child sex trafficking ring and his rape of trafficked women and girls - it's a complete joke, he's now merely an extremely rich man facing no real consequences.
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 No.9795

>>9794
You know what's fucked up?
How a lot of Ogre patrons are against the death penalty for cases of rape and murder but then wanna advocate for genocide of cisheterosexual males and human male fetuses.
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 No.9796

>>9784
Always was
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 No.9801

>>5363
Underrated, overlooked post.
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 No.9817

Young girls can't consent. They don't have enough life experiences and the power dynamics is too uneven.
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 No.9834

File: 1767474472850.mp4 ( 3.03 MB , 576x1024 , 7304e7b0bbef96cf5f04c46189….mp4 )

>>9784
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 No.9842

>>9360
Rightist tourist here. Leftists don't recognize the validity of biology on this matter. Or in general, really. The "pro-science" left discards biological fact whenever it suits them.

>>9359
>you’re just grasping at straws to justify patronizing young adults.
Pretty much this. The left is full of Karens who want to pretend like teenagers don't know anything of importance because they want to pretend that their "life experience" entitles them to make other people's decisions for them. But "life experience" doesn't mean shit. You have people in this thread insisting that 18-year-olds are mentally children and other absurd bullshit founded on Reddit popsci memes. Pure patronizing faggotry. A 16-year-old isn't a child, let alone an 18. They're old enough to consent to whoever they want and it isn't your place to interfere with that. You leftoids just need to admit that you lost a shitload of men on this issue and start asking yourselves what you did wrong instead of continuing to indulge in phony moralizing.

>>9339
Because the left is full of roasties who use pedohysteria as a method of restricting the dating market so men are forced to date them instead of the teen hotties we actually want. Any other pretext they give you is just cope for the fact that they're past their prime and men won't look at them anymore.

>>9817
>beep boop muh can't consent muh power dynamics
You'd think they would have issued leftists' firmware a talking point hotfix by now because this shit is just laughable. No intellectually serious person believes these things or has ever believed these things.
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 No.9846

There should be no age of consent. Nobody ever consent to anything, that's liberal nonsense stepped into christocuck hallucination of freewill and transactional justice. If you're a pedo you go to jail because you are a pedo.
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 No.9847

>>9846
Christ. Pedo much? All these pro-pedo posts and use of disgusting words like "cunny", like the fuck is that?
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 No.9848

>>9847
/R9K/ is a little loopy.
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 No.9849

>>9847
>I'm a hunorless git that doesn't understand satire.
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 No.9851

The age of consent should 30. People should be forced to pass a test and get a license before they can consent.
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 No.9852

>>9851
What's the point of raising the age to 30 if you're also going to have a test? Just have the text and no fixed age. If you can pass the test at 14 you're ready, and if you can't pass it at 30 you're not, like a driver's license. No need to overcomplicate it.
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 No.9865

File: 1767772754297.mp4 ( 2.11 MB , 576x1024 , d8101c4bbb15b07ccd1b453ae0….mp4 )

The booj gettin' possessive.
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 No.9866

https://www.ft.com/content/8816fcec-4148-4cda-be7f-fc59d5bcbf59
More human trafficking?
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 No.9868

>>9851
If you raise it that high, you're gonna have a bunch of hysterical dysfunctional adults
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 No.9869

>>9852
The point is to discourage young people from attaining autonomy.
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 No.9874

The reason SOME people are upset about the Epstein situation is not because of what happened, but because THEY couldn't join in
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 No.9895

>>9874
This is me tbqh fam bbq lgbtq wtf, we need to redistribute the teen pussy from the bourgeoisie to the inceltariat
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 No.9930

>>9842
Unfortunately it's not just the left. The right is like this as well.
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 No.9946

https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/ice-detention-center-says-its-not-responsible
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 No.9950

>These briefings contain firsthand accounts of extreme child trafficking, torture, rape and murder conducted within the Trump/Epstein and associated criminal enterprises over the course of several decades. This briefing is part 1 of 2. It includes six unedited audio recordings. I recorded the audio myself. The master files remain in my custody. Copies of these recordings and supporting documentation have been securely distributed to police, and to trusted allies in several countries. Part 2 maps selected incidents to supporting evidence. I will publish additional information, at my discretion. I decided to publish these accounts, in the public interest. Investigations are ongoing.

https://substack.com/home/post/p-177753342
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 No.9952

>>9950
👀
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 No.9953

>>9950
Why is shooting up your school looked down upon while Trump and Clinton being friends with Epstein and doing these kind of things they've done get no consequences?
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 No.9954

>>9953
Shooting up your school is also bad, but yeah - US oligarchs get impunity to do both equally bad and even worse things… and then people will still pretend like the American state is in any position to enforce any kind of law when even the most basic laws are violated by those leading it.
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 No.9955

>>9953
>Why is shooting up your school looked down upon
GTFO of here ya Fed. All this self deprecating is ironic, we're not actually depressed and as Leftcels we understand where real power lies in capitalism.
Why don't you go to /pol/ which has already spawned about a dozen mass shootings. Oh that's right your oligarchic masters want those fash kept under their wings just in case they're needed.
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 No.9959

>>9955
>we are only pretending to be depressed
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 No.9961

>>9959
Bruh, if you're really depressed about getting no pussy get a passport and fly to Cuba or Panama or Costa Rica. With credit card miles you can get the trip for free.
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 No.9962

>>9950
How come Trump, Epstein and others on Epstein's pedo island do things like this and certain MAGA people don't seem to care,

meanwhile the CIA meddled in a foreign country by psyopping Indonesian people and telling them that Indonesian communists were doing blood orgy rituals and sacrificing babies, leading to them getting brutalized and violently killed and the entire party's demise and counterrevolution?
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 No.9963

>>9962
You said it yourself, it's the CIA, they LITERALLY control what the public opinion is.
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 No.9976

>>9959
They're not pretending to be depressed. They're depressed over shallow irrelevant things
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 No.9978

>>9955
Actually we live under neo-feudalism
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 No.9992

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 No.9993

>>9992
Holy fuck, kek.
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 No.10009

>>9993
It wasn't that funny.
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 No.10060

Tik tok says the picture of Epstein with a swollen mouth is kuru disease. A prion disease cannibals get.
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 No.10084

21.
You only want teenagers because you're a loser who can't be with women his age. disgusting.
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 No.10085

>>10084
This is something dumb people say to justify not having to inspect their own thinking
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 No.10099

>>10084
Legal adult age is eighteen.
Also, your point is moot because adult males who hook up with teens are usually not losers.

Losers usually are the ones who end up with single moms past their mid-thirties if not stuck to porn
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 No.10108

Epstein emails reveal Hind Al-Owais, a prominent Arab feminist, offered her 13 year old sister to infamous sex trafficker.



https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/who-is-hind-al-owais-uae-human-rights-diplomat-named-in-469-jeffrey-epstein-emails/articleshow/128193007.cms
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 No.10109

File: 1770991728259.jpg ( 515.75 KB , 1600x1186 , Pedos cucked btfo.jpg )

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 No.10116

>>10109
That could apply to vanilla sexuality as well
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 No.10128

>>10084
What's so great about women my age?
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 No.10130

>>10128
Wrong question.
The real question is:
What’s so great about meatspace women?
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 No.10136

Trump detains all pregnant minors, some as young as 13, in same Texas facility where abortion is banned with no exceptions

Looks like the state is finally going to start making mouthy foids do their duty and start crapping out babies. Women are just going to be disposable tools now, welcome to being a sub 8 male ladies haha.

You just know some of these girls got pregnant by from ICE officers. Can you imagine getting to hit sweet seeet cunny then get to watch as they're forced to carry your baby to term? Trump is making joining ICE irresistible.

>inb4 some redditor crashes out about this post.

You won't do sheeeeeeeit

https://www.kqed.org/news/12073575/trump-administration-sends-pregnant-unaccompanied-minors-to-texas-shelter-flagged-as-medically-inadequate
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 No.10332

The people here advocating to infantilize young adults are projecting their delayed maturation onto an age bracket.

Age of consent should be 14 thru 18 at a minimum with contextual laws.

I find it absurd that society sees no problem with making young adults criminally responsible but not sexually responsible
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 No.10336

>>10332
14 is too young. I'm okay with 16 and I'd go as low as 15. I think what Americans really have to reconcile is that fact that a lot of their children become sexually active at 13 and sometimes younger.
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 No.10341

>>10136
This is sarcasm, right?
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 No.10355

>>10336
Many Americans don't actually care about people becoming sexually active at a young age, they just care about preventing non-Chad men from being able to participate in this because they view non-Chad men as subhuman and think you should be condemned to be a betabuxer for some roastie.
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 No.10356

>>10341
Yes, but your hateful feminist ideology made you think twice.
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 No.10357

>>10336
Fourteen isn’t too young
Twelve is.
Also, most people aren’t sexually active at those ages anyway due to moral hysteria even though they have sexually developed
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 No.10410

There's been lots of raging and seething on both sides ITT, but nobody's really talked about what's actually likely to happen on this issue. Both sides are only becoming more and more radicalized in their views, but the elites' opinions matter a lot more than the public. So the question is what do the elite want? I think some of them may start openly advocating for a lower age of consent soon to try to appease the manosphere/incel types and more importantly nullify the blackmail material that's being held over them, but some may choose to double down. I'm not clear on which side is going to win yet.
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 No.10412

I'm not getting into this shit.
>>4423
>hello ogre transhumanist
There's quite a lot of chuddy whities who are pedo degens, cope.
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 No.10474

Hell yeah,
CUNNY TV
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/YwVBsFD7v84
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 No.10476

>>4421
If you are over 25 and attracted to anyone under 20 then there is something very, very wrong with you.
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 No.10477

>>10474
Why do you post like this as if it's a positive thing?
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 No.10478

>>10477
Because I want to see hot cunny stretching and gallivanting everywhere.
And it triggers turbo libs like you.
Pedophilia will be legalized in our lifetime and I'm by no means the only person who believes so. Cyberpunk authors have been predicting that for 50 years.
And the time period that they are generally talking about is between now and about 2040.
The whole Epstein scandal was simply a natural consequence of capitalism and market forces. There is a tremendous demand for CUNNY and sooner or later society will succumb to these massive market forces. One way or another. Think World War II and World War I where slaughter on an industrial scale was unthinkable and now it doesn't bother anyone.
I love seeing idealist libs collapse as their spooked morality is crushed under material market forces, idiots like you think that if you just scold and moralize enough, you can stop the flow of a river.
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 No.10479

>>10478
Yikes… Imagine being pro-pedophilia.
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 No.10480

>>10479
Yikes, imagine thinking your idealism will stop it.
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 No.10481

>>10480
People are good. Good will prevail.
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 No.10482

>>10481
Yes, that's why the Epstein story broke 20 years ago and no one who was invited to that island has gone to jail. It's because people are so good!
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 No.10483

>>10481
>People are good.
Essentialism.
>Good will prevail.
Naivety.
>>10482
>Yes, that's why the Epstein story broke 20 years ago and no one who was invited to that island has gone to jail.
Bourgeois decadence.
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 No.10484

>>10483
>Bourgeois decadence.
For now, like anything it will be for the ultra wealthy at first but then trickle down into consumer markets.
Like I said I'm not the only person that sees this pattern. In "Transmetropolitan", a cyber punk comic, there's a children's show called " Sex Puppets" which encourages children to have sex with each other and adults.
That comic was published 30 years ago. There will be a consumer market for cunny, this flock story is a underground example.
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 No.10485

>>10483
>Bourgeois decadence.
Many of the people spying on the 12 year old gymnasts were police officers or employees, not booj.
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 No.10486

>>10485
>Many of the people spying on the 12 year old gymnasts were police officers or employees, not booj.
Child trafficing has a more global and systemic nature than some creeps spying on children.
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 No.10487

>>10486
Do you not know what the flock system is. It's not just a network of surveillance cameras. It's a marketplace where Flock buys video feeds from third party camera operators. In fact thus gymnast feed was owned by the studio, not flock.
And numerous people have access to these feeds including completely unregulated private investigators. If you think thousands, made millions of people haven't already been jorkin' it to these cunny feeds you're naive.
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 No.10488

>>10487
>If you think thousands, made millions of people haven't already been jorkin' it to these cunny feeds you're naive.
That doesn't mean this represents a significant portion of the human population, just like with any paraphilia. Man, if the majority of people had the ones I have that would be crazy.
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 No.10489

>>7921

If you are attracted to people who are not emotionally or psychologically mature then you are a pedo.
Ephebophilia is a meme.
Find someone your own age, incel perv.
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 No.10491

>>10489
Why not collectively refer to pedos, ephebophiles and rapists as sick fucks? Problem solved.
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 No.10492

>>10488
>That doesn't mean this represents a significant portion of the human population,
I never said there's a big portion of the population that wants cunny feeds. I said there's a big market for it. Having a big market doesn't necessitate having a lot of people participate.
What's needed by a majority of the population is that they accept an open market for cunny. And they absolutely will. 20 years ago this flock thing would have been a huge story now this journalist can't even get mainstream attention on it.
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 No.10493

>>10492
>20 years ago this flock thing would have been a huge story now this journalist can't even get mainstream attention on it.
There are many reasons one may not get mainstream visibility. And just because someone calls something out it doesn't necessarily mean they'll change anything. Just look at anti-Zionists, whistleblowers and human rights activists.
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 No.10494

>>10491
Agreed. They are sick fucks.
It's inherently predatory.
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 No.10498

>>10493
>There are many reasons one may not get mainstream visibility.
The thing is pedophilia is supposedly some sacred cow in the US. Pedo allegations literally ended Drake's career, the highest selling pop star alive right now.
So the fact that this story isn't getting traction just shows how much the US doesn't care about the safety of children, it really never has.
As much as Redditors and the resident trolls in this thread virtue signal about it, they've never done anything material to stop it.
This story won't get traction, the only reason why the Epstein story is even a story is because it involved celebrities. Which is why the story was originally broken by a gossip rag (Gawker).
This story will never get traction and will be one of many bricks in a cunny economy in the near future.
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 No.10501

EXCLUSIVE: ICE Locks Thousands, Including Kids, in 170 ‘Hold Rooms’ Nationwide. Here’s Where They Are.

https://coloradotimesrecorder.com/2026/03/exclusive-ice-locks-thousands-including-kids-in-170-hold-rooms-nationwide-heres-where-they-are/77352/

Government sanctioned cunny love hotels already deployed nationwide.
Can you imagine all the fresh bussy and cunny ICE agents are swimming in right now?
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 No.10506

File: 1776612182196.mp4 ( 8.41 MB , 576x1024 , signal-2026-04-19-08-18-37….mp4 )

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 No.10518

>>10498
>Pedo allegations literally ended Drake's career, the highest selling pop star alive right now.
<just shows how much the US doesn't care about the safety of children
I don't really understand your logic.
>cunny
The fact that channers use a shortened version of "cute and funny" as a euphemism for "child porn" is especially gross.
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 No.10522

>>10476
Die.

>>10489
>Find someone your own age, incel perv.
No. Mind your own goddamn business you worthless cunt. You're not qualified to assess anyone else's maturity level. Kill yourself.

>>10491
Uhh, maybe because equating pedos and ephebophiles is retarded midwit reddit shit?

>>10494
Shut the fuck up, roastie. Back to .ogre with this feminist faggotry.
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 No.10523

>>10518
<just shows how much the US doesn't care about the safety of children
>I don't really understand your logic.
By the fact that he is in fact not a pedo. All the underage girls he was accused of touching came out and said he never touched them. Americans love virtue signalling about pedophilia but how many people that went to Epstein island have gone to jail?
>The fact that channers use a shortened version of "cute and funny" as a euphemism for "child porn" is especially gross.
Libs like you will do more to cancel people that use offensive words than anything to materially protect children.
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 No.10524

>>10506
Looks incredibly fake.
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 No.10525

>>10489
Would that count elderly and disabled?
Also again, “hebephilia is a meme” is like saying “anti Zionism is a meme”
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 No.10526

>>10523
This.
Most hysteria over pedophikia often rarely involves actual children
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 No.10527

>>10522
> Uhh, maybe because equating pedos and ephebophiles is retarded midwit reddit shit?

This.
These are the same people who stress to differentiate “anti semitism” from “anti Zionism”
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 No.10528

People freak about youth sexuality but are ok with youth violence
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 No.10529

>>10526
Of course, it involves sexually viable females that roasties feel threatened by.

>>10527
They're also the same people who get super salty about the difference between liberalism and socialism. But when socialism has been infected by pedohysterical libfem trash it's indistinguishable from liberalism in practice.
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 No.10530

>>10529
What’s really fucked up about all this is that the notion that 13 to 25 being helpless children is a modern concept.
Purely from the eighteenth century idealists.

And we have seen now that it’s been normalized to spend your teens and twenties with no prospects, no skills, no nuances.
People say that thirty is the start of true adulthood nowadays yet or in their thirties are barely able to keep up
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 No.10537

>>10527
>These are the same people who stress to differentiate “anti semitism” from “anti Zionism”
<Being against Israel's genocide of the Palestinians is just like how Hitler hated Jews.
Back to .orge NOW
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 No.10538

>>10537
Nobody said this, what are you even reading
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 No.10539

>>10538
Yes he was, he was comparing people who say anti-Zionism isn't antisemitic to pedos that that say fucking 12 year olds isn't the same as fucking 7 year olds.
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 No.10540

>>10539
That's being generous lol - his comparison clearly favored the latter while suggesting the former was ridiculous. Really heinous shit.
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 No.10541

>>10539
>12 year olds
Nobody said this either, most guys want 15-16
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 No.10542

>>10539
He didnt say that.
youre just twisting his words
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 No.10544

>>10541
No, most guys want women. Only creeps want pubescent girls.
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 No.10556

>>10544
>hurr durr creeps
Back to CrystalCafe, roastie. A 16-year-old is a fucking woman and more of a woman than you ever will be again.
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 No.10557

>>9358
>So you had everything figured out at 18?

Ironically an extremely immature view to have because believing anyone has it "figured out" is something only children would think anyone has.
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 No.10558

>>9358
>So you had everything figured out at 18?
No, but how do Americans reconcile the face that girls in the US start having sex around 14 and sometimes as young as 12.
I'm not for a low age of consent but why do people like you see sex with older people more dangerous than sex with peers.
As a materialist I'd be most concerned about unplanned pregnancies, STD and sexual assault. None of these risks are mitigated if an underage girl only has sex with a peer.
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 No.10559

>>10558
*but how do Americans reconcile the fact
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 No.10560

>>10556
Disgusting. I hope you get doxxed, pedo.
I work in schools. 16 year olds are CHILDREN.
You are lower than filth.
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 No.10563

>>10560
So you don't think any of your students are sexual active?
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 No.10564

>>10560
Why don't you answer the question. How is sex among underage peers safer than sex with of age people?
It's not am endorsement of the activity,
It just really seems like you aren't concerned about this issue because you want to protect children but out of some warped jealously you have of them.
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 No.10565

>>10564
Power dynamics.
I'm not jealous of a bunch of pedo incels kek
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 No.10566

>>10565
I said you're jealous of children not me an "incel".
I agree there's some power dynamics, but underage kids are more than capable of being manipulative. I don't see this mitigating much danger.
Conversely an older person is capable of being more nurturing as well.
Like I said, it really seems like you're just jealous of young women who you feel are more desired than you. Your rationalizations for being this militant are pretty flimsy.
I wouldn't want my child in a relationship with someone of age but I wouldn't think it was an existential treat to them either.
You obviously don't have children because making something this taboo that you can't justify as being as dangerous as you make it just makes teens want to experiment with it more.
Ironically your hysteria has driven more underage girls into the arms of adult men than anyone salivating about teen sex here.
What do you have to say for yourself?
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 No.10567

>>10566
*existential threat
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 No.10568

>>10565
Elaborate on 'power dynamics' and how peer to peer sex is safer without them? Also how there's no 'power dynamics' in peer to peer sexual relationships.
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 No.10569

Didn't realize that Jeffrey Epstein used .neet
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 No.10570

>>10569
Statically your pastor or uncle is diddling one of your nieces while you're making jokes on here.
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 No.10572

>>10560
>super ultra mega seethe that she will never again be as hot as a 16-year-old
Lel, retarded cunt. 16 is actually legal in most places including most of the US, mald and cope about it.

>>10565
>muh power dynamics
Only midwits believe in this shit, it's fucking Soviet-tier pseudoscience.
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 No.10573

File: 1777058948670.jpg ( 83.82 KB , 900x357 , marx lysenko china.jpg )

>>10572
>shitting on Soviet science
Actually, some of Lysenko's work had a certain scientific merit, which was recognized internationally.
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 No.10574

>>10560
Shut the fuck up, you self-righteous, patronizing assclown. 16-year-olds are adults. They're tried as adults in court if they commit a crime, therefore they're adults, simple as that.

>I work in schools.
You're unqualified to teach.

>You are lower than filth.
You're also unqualified to judge the moral status of people who don't subscribe to your agecuck idiocy. And above all else, you're unqualified to police other people's relationships. Get fucked.
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 No.10586

>>10560
In most pf the world amd hisyory, 16 was an adult. Its only now that theyre considered children.

Also, moderm.schools.habe this subtle way of infamtilizing young people
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 No.10587

>>10566
this.
people always assume that youth means automatic weakness.
Alot of underage girls in relationships with adult males werent coerced
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 No.10588

>>10574
>They're tried as adults in court if they commit a crime, therefore they're adults, simple as that.


this.
teens are treated like infants when it comes to sex but theyre classified as adults when it comes to violence

we train teenage boys to assault each other in ballsports
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 No.10589

>>10565
ppwer dynamics more exists in platonic affairs between childrem and adults
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 No.10590

>>10588
The roasties seem to have vacated the thread, as they usually do when they get BTFO super fucking hard. But sadly they won't stop their bullshit, they'll just take it elsewhere and spew the same old lies. Feminist women have to have their hold on power removed.
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 No.10593

https://www.tiktok.com/@stoney_tha_great/video/7632823181278989598
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 No.10605

>>10593
Reminder that Macaulay Culkin said he didn't get touched.

"“Look,” Culkin said. “I’m gonna begin with the line—it’s not a line, it’s the truth: He never did anything to me. I never saw him do anything. And especially at this flash point in time, I’d have no reason to hold anything back."
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/a30782546/macaulay-culkin-michael-jackson-relationship-friendship-details/



Furthermore the material reason is because parents being greedy and Michael Jackson owning the Beatles catalogue, which is worth a lot of money. Flash forward to now, and conveniently the Jackson estate no longer owns the Beatles catalogue.

Furthermore, why did accusing parents try to pay other parents to join in on the accusations? If the truth is on your side, why pay others to fabricate an accusation?



Michael Jackson takes control of the Beatles’ publishing rights | August 14, 1985 https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/august-14/michael-jackson-takes-control-of-the-beatles-publishing-rights

Akon: Michael Jackson Accusations Started when He Refused to Sell Beatles Catalog (Part 12) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEuEzKGe6FY

Ron Newt on Getting Offered $200K To Say Michael Jackson Touched His Kids (Flashback) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viyD1G_WuX8

Aaron Carter on His Mom Attempting a Money Grab Against Michael Jackson (Part 8) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtSSeOcZxok

Scott Ross Investigated Mom of Michael Jackson Accuser: She's a Scammer & Liar (Part 4) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5tl6Oa6514

Lord Jamar on Russia Hiding Michael Jackson: MJ Became a Target After That (Part 10) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtJfpZ2FXME



Michael Jackson singing about how the elite oppresses the common man. (Agit prop, redpill)
Michael Jackson - They Don’t Care About Us (Brazil Version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJL6nfu__Q
Michael Jackson - They Don't Care About Us (Prison Version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1pqi8vjTLY

Michael Jackson portraying Egyptians as black.
Michael Jackson - Remember the Time (Official Video - Upscaled) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeiFF0gvqcc
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 No.10645

>>10590
Idk man, this isn’t mere “roasties”, it looks more like adults projecting their past immaturity or rather post boomer adults whom have adapted a more infantilized view of youth as way to save face for maturational deficits
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 No.10646

RFK Jr. clears path for minors’ use of tanning beds, much to the dismay of dermatologists
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2026-05-06/rfk-hands-major-win-to-indoor-tanning-industry-to-dermatologists-dismay
Mmmmmm tan cunny
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 No.10647

>>10646
Agitating = harassing the public
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 No.10649

>>10646
I thought white teens were already allowed to use tanning beds
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 No.10712

>>10645
Christ. Imagine being this much of a cuck. Worldly? You mean whores? That have no self respect? That goes for both genders. You wanna wife up a broad who took sausages adding up to 1000 miles, which would be like the distance between New York and Florida? You want other men to do that stuff? Look at you, man. You're a freaking perverted nihilistic hedonistic low-value scumbag. That's what you are. These no-good hooligcan sloozies running around opening their legs for any no-good Joe Schmoe and a good honest hard-working man is supposed to put a ring on that type of stuff? Get outta here, you disgusting pig. You disgust me. Whores disgust me. Some people in the world got more values than that. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. You ever seen what these loose women do? You think I'mma go down on that? Freaking disgusting. You make me sick. Some people don't wanna eat food that was touched with bare hands by someone else. You might as well sprinkle ballsack hair on the wedding cake. You make me sick. And the baggage that comes with it? And them aging badly? Have some self respect. These sloozies got no self respect. Unreal, man. Unbelievable. Low-life.
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 No.10714

>>10590
Christ, imagine being this much of a retarded pedophile. Newsflash, dumbass, we don't want your kind around here! The age of consent is that way for a reason. You're just a creepazoid weirdo who can't get women his age so he has to resort to preying on young girls who you can manipulate and control because you're a loser. Just because you have a problem doesn't mean you have to saddle others with it. Jesus, get a life. You're pathetic. Useless scum. For Christ's sake, eat a salad for once. You probably got Cheetos stains on your fingers and drink Mountain Dew like it's water. Like goddamn, your parents must be really disappointed. What do you have going for you? "Oh man, look at my edgelord pedo-posting!" Fuck off. In the real world, you'd be ostracized, that's why you hide behind a screen. You're the reason for Amber Alerts. Straight up trying to groom, exploit, and abuse vulnerable girls. Imagine being such a weirdo. You probably got no social life. You probably don't accomplish anything. Embarrassing. You probably set calendar alarms to celebrate when Natalie Portman turned 18. You're disgusting, dude. Scum of the Earth. Shame. Sick, selfish adults like you can ruin the lives of children. When you die, you won't die with honor.
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 No.10715

>>10714
NTA but that’s a false dichotomy.
A lot of young girls with older guys were not all innocent nor vulnerable.

In fact the main reason why men go for younger women is for their libido and looks not for their docility

Most men would be turned off by any young women displaying the old fashioned behavioral stereotypes of youthful innocence
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 No.10716

>>10714
> You probably set calendar alarms to celebrate when Natalie Portman turned 18.

Isn’t that the right thing to do?
Why is it considered wrong to wait until the younger part turns eighteen?
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 No.10738

>>10714
>Newsflash, dumbass, we don't want your kind around here!
Who the fuck is we, bitch? The entire rest of the thread is telling you to shut your retarded cunt mouth.

>The age of consent is that way for a reason.
Yes, and that reason is because roasties are jealous cunts who know teenage girls are better than them in every way and any man who has the option to choose a teen would rather do that than accept some psychotic used-goods twitter whore.

>You're just a creepazoid weirdo who can't get women his age
Why the fuck would I want women my age? What do they have to offer me that a teenage girl doesn't? Oh right, STDs and debt. No thanks.

>>10716
>Isn’t that the right thing to do?
No, 18 is cuck shit. 16 is legal in most states and countries anyway. Stop letting self-involved, self-interested spinsters determine your moral worldview.
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 No.10753

American Pedopolitics: 250 Years of Child Abuse and Exploitation - An Academic Review
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 No.10766

File: 1778995721844.jpg ( 582.38 KB , 3804x3804 , 40c9bc6b-0594-4c5b-af1d-97….jpg )

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 No.10824

File: 1779550364068.jpg ( 191.28 KB , 1490x1216 , 1762258145388813.jpg )

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 No.10828

Justice Department deletes names of Jan 6th rioters that have been convicted of child sex crimes off of their website so they can be paid settlements from the 1.6 Billion dollar DoJ 'weaponization fund'

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/justice-department-deletes-press-releases-charges-jan-6-rioters-rcna346613
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 No.10904

Why is adult woman fetish looked down upon while pedophilia and ephebophilia are praised and revered?
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 No.10911

>>10904
It’s the opposite.
Also, the definition of pedophilia is being extended to include 18-24
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 No.10912

>>10911
Then why don't people post mature anime women instead of petite young looking anime girls?
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 No.10915

>>10912
They do that a lot. Lots of MILFY big boobed characters
Also what’s with this moral obsession over lithe petite body forms?
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 No.10918

>>10915
>Also what’s with this moral obsession over lithe petite body forms?
Be for real, when people post petite young looking anime girls, they don't think of them as being "actually 5000 years old", they think of them as loli.

This might be a hot take, but in my opinion there is something fundamentally wrong with someone who prefers flat chest and petite body over big tits and big hips. It is pedophilia-coded. Just saying. Yikes.
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 No.10919

>>10918
That’s not always true.
This idea that “lithe petit” form automatically means “pedophilia” is brain rot

Idk if you know this but most adult females aren’t busty and wide hipped

In fact it’s more common to have adult females with lithe forms and flat chests.

There’s something fundamentally wrong with people like you who think “adult” means exaggerated bodily features
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 No.10922

>>10919
>adult females with lithe forms and flat chests
That's not true, everyone is fat these days.
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 No.10923

>>10918
Also there’s a lot of teenage females with busty physiques.
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 No.10924

>>10922
Not everyone is an obese shut in, dummy. Skinny people are more plentiful than you think
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 No.11181

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/epstein-files-triggered-freakout-in-white-house-new-report-shorts/
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 No.11211

>>11181
>rich bourgeoisie pricks seethe when the public finds out they don't obey the laws they make the peasants obey
Many such cases. Sad!
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 No.11392

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_murders
This event helped normalize cunny, you normalfags don't understand, I am the normal one and ahead of my time, not you out-of-touch goody-two-shoes
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 No.11393

>>10918
>Be for real, when people post petite young looking anime girls, they don't think of them as being "actually 5000 years old"
Correct, Asuka is 14 and that's fine. Seethe about it uyghur.
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 No.11397

File: 1783375163472.jpg ( 602.92 KB , 1080x2340 , Screenshot_20260706_143104….jpg )

OMG she's so hot
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 No.11398

>>10714
NTA but most of the world outside of the west does age fourteen thru seventeen as age of consent.
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 No.11399

>>10918
This may be a hot take but most moral obsession over “pedophilia” rarely has anything to do with actual sexual harm of children.
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 No.11401

>>10918
>Yikes.
Fuck outta here reddituyghur.

>>11399
This, it's about controlling the sexual marketplace. No man would pick a used-up roastoid over a teenage girl if he was actually given a choice.
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 No.11402

Worst board on the site.
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 No.11403

>>11402
>waaaah waaaah how dare men from the sexual proletariat have a place to discuss their condition and acquire sexual class consciousness regarding how the sexual bourgeoisie are oppressing them
feminist porkies are big mad
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 No.11404

>>11403
This is incoherent.
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 No.11405

>>11402
NO U
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 No.11406

>>11404
Only to libs
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 No.11408

>>11404
It's actually quite easily understood if you have enough reading comprehension to score at least a 500 on the SAT verbal. There are only 2 possibilities here, either your verbal autism score is substantially below average or you're deliberately pretending not to understand things, therefore making discussion impossible.
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 No.11409

>>10712
Are the anon from the other thread on /Leftypol/ about the Canadian leftist incel mass shooter?

First off, reports show that millennials and their juniors are having less sex than ever before, this goes for both males and females.

Even if women remained virginal past their teens and twenties, they can and are still prone to personality flaws.

You resorting to calling me a cuck and scumbag just because I dare to say that your naysayers aren’t roasties?

Typical imageboard users who’ve been brain-fried from their solipsistic fantasies.

You need to get some professional help.
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 No.11414

… do non mess with the quantum entanglements of minors as they navigate education period/phase?
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 No.11416

>>11414
This thesis is entirely reliant on how the modern educational system works. There is no need for it to operate as it currently does, and in fact there are many compelling arguments for restructuring it substantially. Also, get that snark out of your fucking voice right fucking now. You are not in a position to dictate morality.
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 No.11424

File: 1783648529372.jpg ( 69.57 KB , 715x777 , b33935df-bbf3-4fe9-8326-85….jpg )

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 No.11437

>>11424
>religious conservatives
Many people who think the age of consent is bullshit and want an end to pedohysteria faggotry don't give a fuck about religion. There's no correlation between these two.

>Republican operatives
Clinton was on the Epstein list.

>anti-LGBT activists
This is often true, but so what? A lot of non-cucked men are pissed at LGBTs for betraying us to the feminists. They stole the political infrastructure we created for ourselves. Why the fuck shouldn't we be pissed at them? Fortunately now we've built something new that isn't about them because it operates from fundamentally different premises (those of sexual class warfare, sexual market mechanics and the incel movement), so it can't be stolen by them.
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 No.11440

>>11424
Uhh you know this bitch was a villain in Harry Potter right? Are you admitting that agecucks are villains?
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 No.11441

>>11440
No, I didn't know she was a villain. I'm not a dork.
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 No.11442

>>11441
>"here let me post a nerd culture meme to push my half-baked political agenda"
>actual nerd sees your shitty post and says you fucked up
>"here let me immediately pivot to some fucking Saved by the Bell Gen X-tier nerd hate as though video games and comic books haven't been mainstream for like 20 fucking years now"
Not that it was a good thing for them to become mainstream, but you make everybody who isn't a cancerous pimple on society's ass lean toward lowering the age of consent.
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 No.11446

File: 1783887023765.jpg ( 40.49 KB , 511x590 , 4b923366-62ad-44c3-a122-17….jpg )

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 No.11448

File: 1783900178847.jpg ( 228.18 KB , 787x1024 , PA-8669053-1-787x1024.jpg )

>Thirty-two-year-old mountaineer Homer Peel kisses his bride Geneva on the courthouse steps at Madisonville, Tenn., June 25, 1937, after he was told by the court that he could keep his 12-year-old wife. Peel testified he married the child after his efforts to get her into an orphanage proved unavailing. (AP Photo) Ref #: PA.8669053 Date: 25/06/1937
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 No.11449

>>11397
That looks like Layla Jenner, a porn actress https://www.data18.com/name/layla-jenner
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 No.11450

>>11448
And people wanna talk about how pedophilia is “so prevalent” nowadays.
If something like this were to happen today, there would be riots and the courthouse would be shut down for bad PR.

I hate that people all assume degeneracy is just a “modern day phenomenon”.

Somehow, the law abiding virginal men who frequently masturbate in our current postmodern era are seen as worse than mountaineers securing prepubescent females for brides in the late Modernist era
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 No.11453

>>11450
>And people wanna talk about how pedophilia is “so prevalent” nowadays.
It's roastoids seething because men are finally breaking the feminist conditioning and starting to unapologetically admit that we love teenage girls and the only reasons anyone has a problem with that are jealousy and spite, not morality.
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 No.11456

>>11453
Can you stop proclaiming your love for teenage females? Also, it’s hebephilia, not pedophilia.
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 No.11457

>>11456
>Can you stop proclaiming your love for teenage females?
…no?
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 No.11458

Worst board on the site.
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 No.11459

>>11458
Silence lib
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 No.11463

>>11458
Imageboards being out the worst in people. Forget about TikTok, Twitter, Reddit, fbi.gov, or Instagram.

The toxicity on those sites are modest compared to imageboards.
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 No.11464

>>11463
It's not imageboards, it's /R9K/ specifically. Reddit, TikTok (Ellison owned now), fbi.gov (feds, empty powertrips, and grooming), Facebook (world's largest online human trafficking hub), and Instagram are absolutely worse than every other board on this site, just not this specific one. This board is crap.
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 No.11465

>>11464
Where else are there common spamming of CP and brazen serious talks about wanting to be racist or sexist or predatory?
Where else are mass shooters get aspired?

Imageboards are notorious for having groomers and feds as well. It’s just that there’s not enough attention brought to that because they don’t have the amount of optics that the superfamous ones

I wouldn’t even call imageboards as underground anymore.
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 No.11466

>>11465
>common spamming of
It's one guy/group doing that with bots, and they get banned every time. Also that didn't even start until like the late 2010s, it's not an inherent feature of imageboards, it's a specific sick fuck. In fact, Reddit and Tumblr actually had a way worse problem with that for years (when alt chans were already popular) before the bots started targeting alt chans hard.

People talk about all the topics you listed on all kinds of sites, not just imageboards.
>where else mass shooters get aspired? [SIC]
Like the other topics, anywhere. The mass shooters who famously posted manifestos to 8ch also posted them to sites like Facebook and Instagram, which were, mysteriously ;), not targeted by the US federal gov't the way 8ch was. Before there was any association made with imageboards, there was an association made with sites like VampireFreaks, iirc Myspace had this "problem" (a large userbase, within which some people sometimes do murder, which then gets blamed on the site regardless of whether the site had anything to do with it) too.

You'll also find "true crime" people on TikTok, Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, fbi.gov, etc. whose entire personality is stanning serial killers. Like it's really naive to think this stuff is unique to or even characteristic of imageboards specifically.

>not as much attention
Imageboards are under disproportionately high scrutiny if anything.

>not underground anymore
Literally like at least half of my generation, most likely mpre, between 2006 and 2012, grew up using 4Chan at least a little. Like it hasn't been underground in 20 years, I'm aware that 4chan's /R9K/ did the "reeee normies" thing later than that, but they were completely delusional. 4Chan and 4Chan memes had been mainstream for 5-6 years back then - in fact, a lot of the niche hobby boards were more active before /R9K/'s spergout and the creation of /pol/.
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 No.11468

>>11466
>It's one guy/group doing that with bots, and they get banned every time. Also that didn't even start until like the late 2010s, it's not an inherent feature of imageboards, it's a specific sick fuck.

Why do imageboard patrons always wanna use this lie?
CP has been a thing since before 2010.
And it’s not ONE person or a specific group. They’re outliers but they’re not all part of the same locale

In fact, Reddit and Tumblr actually had a way worse problem with that for years (when alt chans were already popular) before the bots started targeting alt chans hard.

Provide history of this.
I know CP is a problem on major sites but to claim it’s way worse and being a serious epic proportional problem before the alt chans?

>Literally like at least half of my generation, most likely mpre, between 2006 and 2012, grew up using 4Chan at least a little. Like it hasn't been underground in 20 years, I'm aware that 4chan's /R9K/ did the "reeee normies" thing later than that, but they were completely delusional. 4Chan and 4Chan memes had been mainstream for 5-6 years back then - in fact, a lot of the niche hobby boards were more active before /R9K/'s spergout and the creation of /pol/.

The last half of the last sentence needs proof.
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 No.11469

>>11466
>You'll also find "true crime" people on TikTok, Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, fbi.gov, etc. whose entire personality is stanning serial killers. Like it's really naive to think this stuff is unique to or even characteristic of imageboards specifically.

I’m talking about mass shooters getting their aspirations from imageboards not people glazing murderers although that’s another problem

In fact, there’s been a lot of people who used to write letters to serial killers in prison.
Some people even collected artwork or crafts of former serial killers.
There were people who sympathized Charles Manson, saying he shouldn’t be imprisoned because he “didn’t kill those people”.

>Imageboards are under disproportionately high scrutiny if anything.

It’s under high scrutiny since 2016, but before that? Not as much.
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 No.11470

OH FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING PEDOPHILE OP

YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW HEAVY A MILLSTONE REALLY IS AND HOW DEEP THE OCEAN REALLY GOES
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 No.11472

File: 1784369884333-0.jpg ( 340.92 KB , 1265x838 , ErisChan altchan cp spamme….jpg )

File: 1784369884333-1.png ( 164.91 KB , 1124x866 , 2012 Reddit bans CP NYMag.png )

>>11468
>Why do imageboard patrons always wanna use this lie?
It's not a lie.
There is a specific group that spams it now.

>has been a thing since before 2010.
We aren't talking about "in general," we're talking about the spam bots. I was using alt chans before 2010, the issue with the persistent bots that spam that hadn't started yet. If this about that kind of stuff in general, then it's been around for centuries, and has even less relation to imageboards, but we're talking about the spambots which are a specific group and specific phenomenon.
See first picrel.

>Provide history of this.
4Chan (and most alt chans subsequently) had a rule against that stuff from the getgo. Reddit didn't ban it until 2012.
Tumblr had a huge problem with this stuff partly because the site was poorly organized and massive - a problem which actually got worse when they broke their own search engine in the 2010s, so there were loads of blogs flying under the radar very easily.

>The last half of the last sentence needs proof.
You don't provide proof for anything you say.
Ftr I brought this phenomenon up at least once before, and someone else found a chart comparing activity on 4Chan's niche boards before and after /pol/, but I didn't save that.

>>11469
>I’m talking about mass shooters getting their aspirations [SIC] from imageboards not people glazing murderers although that’s another problem
There actually is no causal relation between using imageboards and mass shooting, and it's very weird to claim that there is one and then in the same sentence claim that people who worship the Columbine killers are a totally different phenomenon from the one you're alleging exists wrt imageboards.

>In fact, there’s been a lot of people who used to write letters to serial killers in prison.
There was also a concept called "copycat killers." It's almost like none of this has anything to do with imageboards, and it's entirely an issue of imageboards being scapegoated which you, for some reason, have internalized.

>There were people who sympathized Charles Manson, saying he shouldn’t be imprisoned because he “didn’t kill those people”.
Wrt Manson, the argument was that he was innocent, which isn't the same thing.
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 No.11473

>>11469
>It’s under high scrutiny since 2016, but before that? Not as much.
You have to try to learn something about the stuff you're talking about at some point. Vidrel is from 2007.
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 No.11474

>>11473
Never said imageboards were never under scrutiny before 2016 but it wasn’t as much as now.

The media scrutiny that 4chan got in 2007 isn’t the same as in 2017 or later.
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 No.11475

>>11472
>There was also a concept called "copycat killers." It's almost like none of this has anything to do with imageboards, and it's entirely an issue of imageboards being scapegoated which you, for some reason, have internalized.

I never said that this issue is specifically imageboards. But recently, 4chan and 8chan have been the epicenter of aspiring mass shooters posting their manifestos prior to their “big day out”.



>4Chan (and most alt chans subsequently) had a rule against that stuff from the getgo. Reddit didn't ban it until 2012.

Could it be because of the expectation that chans would have more “eccentric” characters so they had to make that rule on there, whereas Reddit assumed that most of the patrons were “normies” and therefore didn’t feel any need to make that rule?

>Tumblr had a huge problem with this stuff partly because the site was poorly organized and massive - a problem which actually got worse when they broke their own search engine in the 2010s, so there were loads of blogs flying under the radar very easily.

Fair point.

>We aren't talking about "in general," we're talking about the spam bots. I was using alt chans before 2010, the issue with the persistent bots that spam that hadn't started yet. If this about that kind of stuff in general, then it's been around for centuries, and has even less relation to imageboards, but we're talking about the spambots which are a specific group and specific phenomenon.
See first picrel.

Also valid point.
I’m well aware of CP predating the Internet. In fact, CP only became a serious legal offense around the 1980s.
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 No.11476

>>11470
Did you mean to post this cringe boomer shit on /pol/ but accidentally posted it in the wrong tab or something? Nobody here gives a fuck about your jew god.

>>11458
>>11463
Good lord you people are some whiny pearl-clutching faggots. Nobody asked for any of your phony-ass moralizing. Nobody needs you to "protect" them or decide how they can govern their own bodies. Fuck off.
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 No.11478

THE AGE OF CONSENT SHOULD BE 21 INTERNATONALLY

I'M SORRY YOU ABSOLUTE REJECTS/FREAKS, BUT LITTLE 13 YEAR OLD GIRLS CAN'T BE GOOD MOTHERS SO THEREFORE NO-ONE SHOULD BE FUCKING EM.
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 No.11479

The Twelve Sexual Commandments of the Revolutionary Proletariat

SECOND COMMANDMENT

2. Sexual abstinence is necessary before marriage, and marriage should be only made in a state of full social and biological maturity (that is, 20-25 years).
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 No.11480

>>11478
Nah, sixteen is good. Youd be infantilizing eighteen thru twenty.

But okay, if age of consent is to be 21, so should the age of criminal responsibility, working, and military service.
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 No.11481

>>11479
Actually, most societies had people get married sixteen thru twenty in the old days.
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 No.11482

>>11479
People biiologically mature by age fifteen and socially mature by eighteen
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 No.11483

>>11479
Neuroscientists now say "brain dvelopment" ends at 32
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 No.11484

>>11483
These people aren't actual scientists, they're feminist ideologues pushing pseudoscience. None of these fucking faggots even have a concrete definition of what makes your brain developed, let alone how they're measuring that development. It's all a bunch of bullshit.
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 No.11485

>>11484
The brain development theory was based on an incomplete neurological study.

It’s being promoted by government and pop culture to justify patronizing young adults.
Parents and teachers now can get away with smothering young adults without much reprimand.

A lot of early post-prime age adults now have a perfect excuse for lack of prospects
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 No.11488

AGE 21 FOR EVERYTHING IS NOT A BAD IDEA
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 No.11489


REPLY MEANT FOR
>>11480
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 No.11491

>>11488
That’s gonna cause a lot of strain on society.
IMO, it should be sixteen.
For work, military service, criminal responsibility, etc

Raising the initial age of adult responsibilities to twenty one may sound like a good idea but what’s gonna happen is that parents, teachers, and other elders are gonna coddle young people until age twenty one and throw them out into the world with no clue.

The truth is, parents don’t really raise their kids to be adults. They raise kids to be pets

Some people suggest raising the initial age of adulthood to twenty five to help compensate for college and shitty labor market.

All it’s gonna do is allow teachers and parents to smother, coddle, neglect or abuse young people for longer periods.

And soon, that means primary stage of stability won’t be reached until they’re forty.

If we are to extend adolescence, we as a society are gonna have to reset all of our modern parenting and pedagogical practices to be more technical-skill oriented.
There ought to be ethics training for students involving adult activities.
Curriculum will have to include basic mechanical repair, cooking, financial education, child rearing etc

The problem with our current mode of pedagogy is that it focuses far too much on abstract theoretical things with no relation to real world entities.

In fact, I am in favor of having schooling be mainly boarding to help increase social autonomy for students otherwise parents will continue to smother them.

But only as long as schools are mainly vocational
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 No.11492

>>11478
>BUT LITTLE 13 YEAR OLD GIRLS

Thirteen isn’t a little girl

Still a minor but not a little kid
This kind of language is infantilizing
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 No.11518

>>11492

YOU TALK LIKE YOU'RE A FUCKING GRANNY, "YOUNG MAN, THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE IS SO 'N SO"
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 No.11519

File: 1784830993276.jpg ( 65.02 KB , 864x746 , d74a56cb-80a6-4151-a6b7-4c….jpg )

No one actually cares about pedophilia. It's just a kludge used by libs to gain moral authority.
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 No.11520

>>11518
But it’s true though
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 No.11521

>>11518
People refer to young people as “young man/young woman” in formal patronization mode.
But in casual patronization mode, they refer to young adults as “little kids”

It’s infantilism, whether you want to admit it or not

Hell, you even wanted to raise age of consent to twenty one, which suggests that you view young people as infants
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 No.11522

>>11492
Why are you being obscurantist and dancing around the stance of whether 13 year olds should become mothers and fathers?
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 No.11523

>>11519
This.
“Pedophilia” is just a morality slur that’s thrown around to discredit your opponent.
No different from “nazi” “commie” “narcissist” “psychopath” etc
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 No.11524

>>11519
"Pedophile" basically just means "any guy who's into non-expired females". It never had a concrete meaning.
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 No.11525

>>11524
Pedophilia used to mean “being sexually aroused by prepubescent humans”.

Now it’s expanded to include epi-pubescent or early post-pubescent humans
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 No.11527

>>11522
I never said that they should.
Why do uyghas on here always wanna jump to conclusions.

She’s a minor but not a toddler
Referring to teens as little kids is ironically low key creepy.

It encourages infantilism which ironically leads to them being taken advantage of

You know that in ultra conservative communities, teens are treated like infants and they’re sexually abused a lot because of that.

It’s especially sad that secular society is falling for the same things that ultra conservatives want
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 No.11690

If there even should be such a concept as the age of consent, it should be tied to the real age of adolescence, which is around 12-13 years. What is the purpose of destroying the life of a man, that had sex with a young adolescent female who has the biological ability to have sex? It's just pointless terror and politic action to suppress men, nothing more. Who benefits from it? Old hags, those want to drain resources from men, but cannot compete with their younger rivals, and the bourgeois elites, that don't want men to have strong and happy families, that want men to be lonely incels, weak and unhappy. Today feminists and cucks are ready to mock a man even if his gf is an adult, but younger than him (e.g. 23 and 35). Isn't that nonsense?
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 No.11695

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 No.11697

>>11690
These people who wanna socio-sexually infantilize young adults are the same ones who are silent about military draft
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 No.11699

>>11695
The girl on the right doesn’t even have that bad of a pudge.
Besides all she needs is to have a boy make love to her belly button
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 No.11700

>>11697
This is going to get even worse when Trump inevitably starts up the draft for Iran. The same satanic boomers who screamed for decades that the age of consent is 18 despite the actual laws disagreeing with them are going to call for drafting 16-year-olds. Somebody will point out to them that if a 16-year-old is old enough to be sent into battle, a 16-year-old is old enough to give sexual consent. The boomers will inevitably spaz the fuck out at this and scream about 18 is a hard line and make threats like every psychopathic uyghur thug who can't defend their bullshit worldview. And then hopefully the Day of the Pillow will finally arrive.
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 No.11725

>>11527
>You know that in ultra conservative communities, teens are treated like infants and they’re sexually abused a lot because of that.
What is the correlation? Also, source?
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 No.11795

>>11397
Jon Zherka is Albanian-American. Albania was Stalinist Communist under Hoxha. Stalin also had relations with an underage girl. It's all connected.
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 No.12039

File: 1786482884420.jpg ( 233.32 KB , 1119x1179 , ai chat bot sus PEDO.jpg )

Why does this well-known AI chat bot creator also put out pedophile chat bots?
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 No.12045

>>12039
>little boy
>age twelve

Teens aren’t toddlers
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 No.12061

>>12045
>It's actually ephebophilia
You really wanna stand on this?
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 No.12064

>>11450
I bet you have CP on your phone
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 No.12086

>>12061
I know you reddit types have a hard time understanding this, but yes, words do in fact mean things.
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 No.12088

>>12086
>words do in fact mean things
What a weird thing to say when you just referred to 12-year-olds as "teens" (they're pre-teens - "teen" specifically refers to 13-19) and responded affirmatively to someone (wrongly) suggesting that stuff regarding 12-y/os was "ephebophilia" (it's hebephilia, and it's weird that you apparently can't stfu about this stuff you're apparently obsessed with, yet know nothing about).

It's amazing how this thread just keeps getting bumped and it's still the exact same dead-end discussion and misinformed arguments that it was 3 years ago. It's bad enough that you are obsessed with this without you also being a complete moron to boot who doesn't even understand what he's arguing about or have anything interesting to say. You realize that you don't have to be an imbecile to make these taboo arguments, right? Like, maybe if you spent more time actually understanding and thinking about stuff as it actually is rather than just getting mad at shit you saw somebody say on Twitter, you could be more convincing. I can make a better argument for whatever you're arguing than you can, and I don't even agree with you.
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 No.12090

>>12088
>I can make a better argument for whatever you're arguing than you can, and I don't even agree with you.
I'm not even the same person you posted >>12061 in reply to, lel.

>What a weird thing to say when you just referred to 12-year-olds as "teens" (they're pre-teens - "teen" specifically refers to 13-19) and responded affirmatively to someone (wrongly) suggesting that stuff regarding 12-y/os was "ephebophilia"
That's not the point, tard. The point is that you would have posted the same cancerous twitter-tier shit takes even if he was talking about 17.99-year-olds because that's just what faggots like you do.

>misinformed arguments
It's singlehandedly the highest-autism score thread not only on this board but on the entire site. The fact that you don't like the arguments being made here is not the same as actually refuting them, but you don't understand that either.
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 No.12091

>>12090
>I'm not even the same person you posted >>12061
I didn't post that.

>The point is that you would have posted the same cancerous twitter-tier shit takes
My last post ITT before today was >>11473

>that's just what faggots like you do.
I have literally never done that.
Once again, I reiterate my point:
<maybe if you spent more time actually understanding and thinking about stuff as it actually is rather than just getting mad at shit you saw somebody say on Twitter, you could be more convincing.

>It's singlehandedly the highest-autism score thread not only on this board but on the entire site.
It's either completely retarded or just bait.
You don't have coherent arguments, you don't understand the topic, you don't know the relevant laws, you don't know the relevant medicine, you keep covering the same ground over and over without ever learning anything or offering any insights whatsoever, and you can't even respond to anything I said on its own merits without pretending that you're responding to some different person who you got mad at on Twitter at some point.

It's not that I "don't like the arguments," it's that they aren't even arguments. You can't correct anybody about the clinical differences between various paraphilias because you either don't actually know what those differences are or you're pretending not to know in order to make a dishonest case. An informed taboo argument can be interesting, but unfortunately you're retarded so it's just you bumping the embarrassing taboo retarded thread over and over spouting the exact same wrong information over and over and never offering anything new or interesting or insightful. It's really difficult to believe you have any interest whatsoever in this topic when you are incapable of accurately describing anything; you most likely are just bumping this thread to bump it and for no other reason, because nobody could look at the "arguments" ITT and come to a conclusion that you're out to convince anyone or learn anything.
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 No.12092

>>12091
>because nobody could look at the "arguments" ITT and come to a conclusion that you're out to convince anyone
Thing is, nobody here is trying to convince agecucks. Americans are the most indoctrinated uyghurcattle in the known universe and getting through their barrier of misinformation and feels-driven hysteria is impossible no matter how much logic you throw at them. We're trying to convince neutrals, not dyed-in-the-wool zealots.

>paraphilia
Attraction to teenage girls is present in well over 90% of men. Something this prevalent by definition cannot be a paraphilia.

>You don't have coherent arguments, you don't understand the topic, you don't know the relevant laws, you don't know the relevant medicine
Blatantly wrong and deliberately dishonest on all counts. I frequently have to correct agecucks who assume the age of consent is universally 18 or apply nonexistent age gap restrictions that only exist in their heads.
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 No.12093

Ypu degenerates disgust me, the age of consent should be at minimum 20 (per the twelve sexual commandments of the revolutionary proletariat)
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 No.12094

>>12092 You're the biggest faggot ever and we're gonna beat you to death with hammers dor being a degen
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 No.12096

>>12094
Try it and I'll flamethrower you to death.
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 No.12097

>>12093
>Ypu degenerates disgust me, the age of consent should be at minimum 20 (per the twelve sexual commandments of the revolutionary proletariat)

I have four questions for you.

1. What exactly is degen about wishing to have sex with young beautiful adolescent females instead of old hags?

2. Why do you want proletariat men to fuck old hags or be incels?

3. Why do you think revolutionary proletariat, that mostly consists of men, will support this feminist idea?

4. Why did you set up the flag of the National Bolshevik party? Are you aware that Russian National Bolsheviks, including their leader Eduard Limonov, supported lowering the age of consent to 14?
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 No.12101

>>12092

Based.

Agecucks are so stupid, that don't even try to ask the question who benefits from all of this pedohysteria and rising the age of consent. And they don't even suspect that it's them, ordinary men, are the ones who the politics is directed against.
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 No.12103

>>12092
>>12101
>Just commit social suicide bro!
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 No.12104

Only socially outcast people should be allowed to go under the usual age of consent.

They do not have the same social clout/social power as their more normal-socialized same-age same-gender counterparts, so therefore, the power dynamics that people usually point to would be nonexistent.
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 No.12109

>>12097
It is much more the characters and intentions behind these relationships (most of the time predatory) in which the way you ""people"" speak about it here is proof enough of there needing to 'control' on ""whatever goes on in peoples privacy""

where did I imply that they be incels and I think people should fuck in their age range stop strawmanning faggot.

It is a Marxist idea.

I'm a follower of German national bolshevism I think I have a complaint on here about there only being a logo for Russian national bolshevism (and limonov isn't a real national bolshevik).
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 No.12110

>>12101 Good the ordinary man is a retard who led to the hard times we will go through, anyways you sexual deviants don't deserve women as young as you want them.
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 No.12111

>>12104 hashem will wipe you gentiles soon enough I'm not worried
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 No.12112

>>12109
>>12111
German Jewish National Bolshevik?
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 No.12113

>>12112
Marx was a Jew stop moralfagging about these peoples ethnicity
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 No.12117

>>12103
>Just kowtow to normalfags' retarded bullshit bro!
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 No.12119

>>12093
Sociosexual maturity occurs at age fifteen thru twenty
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 No.12120

>>12110
Aren’t you the same person who complains about “normies”?

Also, age of consent outside of NA is fourteen on average anyway
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 No.12121

>>12104
Wrong.
“Power dynamics” aren’t inherently age-based. Teens can and do take advantage of low-prospect adults in such relationships

The better thing to do wolf be to stop social infantilization of young people

Irony is, adolescence has been extended for the entire twenties and even early thirties
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 No.12122

>>12109
>where did I imply that they be incels and I think people should fuck in their age range stop strawmanning faggot.

So that means a thirty year old dating a fifty year old is “pedophilia” in your eyes?
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 No.12123

>>12111
>gentile

Are you a Zionist or something?
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 No.12127

>>12111
Of course someone that named themself 'Hateful' is angry about people finding love amongst different age spectrums. Love is love.
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 No.12133

>>12119
>Sociosexual maturity occurs at age fifteen thru twenty

aron zalkind says otherwise but give me a source

>>12120
>Aren’t you the same person who complains about “normies”? Also, age of consent outside of NA is fourteen on average anyway

how does that matter but yes i made one post seething about them some time ago and the average human (let alone ones outside of california) is a retarded degenerate, this is like saying "even hitler agrees with me"

>>12122
>so in your eyes that means a thirty year old dating a fifty year old is pedophilia

no but its def predatory

>>12123
>are you a zionist or something

no you goys simply need to die

>>12127 i hold lots of love in my heart so much so that one day im just going to give it out to people enmasse.
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 No.12140

What about age of consent relating to the age of enlisting in the army or when you're allowed to work?
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 No.12143

>>12109

> It is much more the characters and intentions behind these relationships (most of the time predatory) in which the way you ""people"" speak about it here is proof enough of there needing to 'control' on ""whatever goes on in peoples privacy""

You are not answering my question. Again, what exactly is degen about wishing to have sex with young beautiful adolescent females instead of old hags?

> where did I imply that they be incels and I think people should fuck in their age range stop strawmanning faggot.

If young adolescent females are forbidden to fuck (high age of consent), they are out of the sexual market, which rises the deficit of females and creates more incels in the society. So why do you want men to be incels?

> It is a Marxist idea.

Marxist idea is about establishing the working class as the ruling one and making factories the common property, not about making men to fuck old hags or not to have sex at all.

> Good the ordinary man is a retard who led to the hard times we will go through, anyways you sexual deviants don't deserve women as young as you want them.

Most men want young females, and this is completely normal. Deviants are those who say that a 40yo granny is more sexy than a 15yo nymph.
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 No.12144

>>12113

> Marx was a Jew

Epstein also was lol. Are you really a Jew? Why are you so angry at men who want young females? You fuck a 40yo dominant woman, which commands you, you feel unhappy with it and trying to cope here? Or what?
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 No.12146

>>12143
>Most men want young females, and this is completely normal. Deviants are those who say that a 40yo granny is more sexy than a 15yo nymph.
Many men would rather fuck Christina Hendricks over Sadie Sink. Just saying.
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 No.12147

>>12133

> aron zalkind says otherwise

So what? Why should we listen to him? The sexual politics in the USSR obviously failed. The politics of sexual puritanism in the USSR was wrong. People, especially men, need sex. And the goal is to make in free and available for all people, not to ban sex, be ashamed of it and use only for making children.
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 No.12148

>>12146
> Many men would rather fuck Christina Hendricks over Sadie Sink.

I don't know who they are. Anyway I was talking about an average 40yo vs an average 15yo, not about cherrypicking.
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 No.12150

>>12148
>doesn't know about famous prime roasties
Fakecel
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 No.12157

>>12143
>You are not answering my question.

Your question was a misrepresentation of what i was saying, but its degenerate because of the sexualization of a vulnerable group (for lack of a better phrase)

>So why do you want men to be incels?

the very logic of what you said is retarded there is no shortage of women your age.

>marxist idea is about establishing the working class as the ruling one

reread what you wrote you stupid illiterate mutt, do marxists only have one idea?

>Most men want young females

this was your response to me calling most humans on earth retarded, you're a sexual deviant who will be put down not for that reason but for being a idiot

>>12144
>are you really a jew
Im not the one bringing it up and no i am not a jew but because i am a young man who can simply point out these disgusting bourgeois cycles

>>12147
>So what? Why should we listen to him?

Why should we listen to marx? so why push the liberal sexual politics that is failing infront of your stupid fat fucking face and no most people do not need to be having sex at all.
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 No.12159

>>12133
> aron zalkind says otherwise but give me a source

Ancient societies had people getting married in their latter half of their teen years.
We just extended childhood by a decade and a half around the seventeenth century.

>It is much more the characters and intentions behind these relationships (most of the time predatory) in which the way you ""people"" speak about it here is proof enough of there needing to 'control' on ""whatever goes on in peoples privacy""


It’s quite ironic because people with moralism like yours are often found out to have a lot of skeletons in the closet.
This moral obsession over sexuality, especially youth sexuality, is often an excuse to promote brutalization as disclipline

Look at correctional/discliplinary programs for young people. Those places are often overrun with predatory adults who will beat and rape teens for mere mistakes.
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 No.12160

>>12157
> Your question was a misrepresentation of what i was saying, but its degenerate because of the sexualization of a vulnerable group (for lack of a better phrase)

Teens are vulnerable due to social infantilization. I find it interesting that people will fate keep teens from sex but then force them to experience bullying and hazing and dangerous endurance activities.
Also teens have sex drives. It’s not unnatural. Why else was puberty the mark of adulthood up until the Late Modern era?

The problem isn’t sexualisation as much as it’s them being infantilised.
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 No.12161

>>12143
> Most men want young females, and this is completely normal. Deviants are those who say that a 40yo granny is more sexy than a 15yo nymph.

Forty isn’t old. And emm wanting a middle aged woman for sex isn’t deviant. Hell, teenage males used to crush on middle aged women.
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 No.12162

>>12161
>Hell, teenage males used to crush on middle aged women.
Why is this in past tense? Milf porn is still around.
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 No.12163

>>12133
> how does that matter but yes i made one post seething about them some time ago and the average human (let alone ones outside of california) is a retarded degenerate, this is like saying "even hitler agrees with me"

People like you are often very stuck on themselves in a perverse way. You’re ignorant of the fact that most people are easily disgusted neopuritans who tote “diversity is our strength” as some aesthetic thing

> Why should we listen to marx? so why push the liberal sexual politics that is failing infront of your stupid fat fucking face and no most people do not need to be having sex at all.

Liberal sexual politics has never been practiced by the massses. It’s only been promoted as porn genres

>>12162
I’m talking about real life milfs, not mere porn genres
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 No.12167

>>12160
>Ancient societies had people getting married in their latter half of their teen years. We just extended childhood by a decade and a half around the seventeenth century.

the past itself is to be abolished we are not following their traditions lmao

>It’s quite ironic because people with moralism like yours are often found out to have a lot of skeletons in the closet.

Im simply the youth in question (17) hearing you pedophiles would make anyone go mad doe

>>12160
>Teens are vulnerable due to social infantilization.

source? you keep making up these baseless arguments lmao a sex driv isnt something you can really lack nor should the past social codes be something that we defend and its just now hitting me that you're probably just a brownoid defending its reactionary culture

>>12163
>You’re ignorant of the fact that most people are easily disgusted neopuritans who tote “diversity is our strength” as some aesthetic thing

i dont do any of these things you projecting dork

>Liberal sexual politics has never been practiced by the massses. It’s only been promoted as porn genres

you're either retarded or you don't really believe this lol
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 No.12168

>>12167
>you're probably just a brownoid defending its reactionary culture
WHOA WHOA WHOA

Russian NazBol were anti-racist

Shame on you
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 No.12170

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>>12168
>russian nazbols were anti racist
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 No.12171

>>12170
Yes, the 90s-2000s one at least. Limonov was bisexual and had sex with black men before.
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 No.12172

>>12171 thats niekisch a german natbolshevist (the line of thought i follow) limonov degenerated the philosophy
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 No.12177

>>12167
>source? you keep making up these baseless arguments lmao a sex driv isnt something you can really lack nor should the past social codes be something that we defend and its just now hitting me that you're probably just a brownoid defending its reactionary culture

How is this reactionary? If anything, your sentiments are reactionary. You rearing to “crack on ‘problematic elements’” is reactionary.

There’s plenty of sources showing that adolescence was a purely modern reactionary invention. Most of our schooling that we think is “normal” really isn’t proper. Age segregation in schools wasn’t a thing until the 1850s.

People used to get apprenticeships around fourteen.


>the past itself is to be abolished we are not following their traditions lma

Your twelve commandments are just a rehash of past traditions.

I guess extending childhood through the twenties is the new thing right?
It’s okay to be treated as child through your prime years?

In case you haven’t noticed, societies that had people become adults around fourteen tended to have more efficient maturation. Compare that to North America where people infantilized through their teens and twenties.
And then people wonder why young people are prone to doing stupid stunts and following trends to feel “relevant”

Where bullying and peer pressure are considered “par for the course” in youth.

> you're either retarded or you don't really believe this lol

Show me where on average that sexual liberalism is as widely practiced as you say.
How many people are really sexually libertine?
How many people actually do S&M?
How many people easily lose their virginity or get easy sex?

These are all outliers.
You’re the retard whom believe all that as commonality.
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 No.12179

>>12088
> What a weird thing to say when you just referred to 12-year-olds as "teens" (they're pre-teens - "teen" specifically refers to 13-19)

That’s only by their age-number suffix. It’s like saying people in their twenties are vicenarians or people in their eighties are octogenarians

Also, age ten thru twelve is often referred to as “tween”.
Sociobiologically, 10 thru 12 are teens.

>>12061
Yes because that’s what it is.
Do you mistake toddlers for teenagers and vice versa?
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 No.12182

>>12170
Leftychan is just a leftist version of the alt right
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 No.12185

>>12177
Do you even know how to read i was asking for a source on teens being vulnerable due to social infantilization (which lets me know you're a boomer lmao) and i was calling your culture reactionary

>Your twelve commandments are just a rehash of past traditions.

read the pamphlet it has no ties to past traditions

thats not what im saying stop acting obtuse you weird faggot

only an actual, literal retard could attribute the degradation of ""american society"" to the raise in adulthood by how "infantilized" its teens and young adults are

do you even know what sexual liberalism is? its simply supporting individual freedom, personal choice, and expression in human sexuality while rejecting rigid traditional rules, social stigma, or strict legal controls over private intimate behavior. you dont have to engage in things like maschoism freak

>>12182 is the alt right a website ? what is this supposed to mean
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 No.12188

Can we just remove these threads or quarantine them to a random board. This is such a niche concern that only autists, anime fans, and/or pedos care about.
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 No.12189

>>12188
This is the sex and relationship board. It belongs here. Most of the thread is a serious discussion. Stop whining and just hide the thread.
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 No.12190

>>12189
>This is the sex and relationship board
No it isn't, it's /R9K/. It's /b/ but specifically for offshoots of the robot/incel culture that developed on 4chan's /R9K/, the "sex and relationships" tagline is just a cheeky reference to this. Nobody on this site who has a healthy understanding of relationships or sex is using this board to talk about it.
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 No.12192

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>>12190
>Nobody on this site who has a healthy understanding of relationships or sex is using this board to talk about it.
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 No.12193

>>12190
It is, that's why almost all the treads are about sez and relationships. This isn't an "incel" board, don't know where you got that. Just because incels are discussed here doesn't make it an incel board. Go back to reddit.
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 No.12194

>>12192
This might be the first time someone ITT replies to me with a reference to something I actually said. Thank you for reminding me of this beautiful interaction anon. ❤️
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 No.12195

>>12192
>>12190
>Two burgers whining about sex talk because they have unresolved issues with intimacy.
Really any discussion of sex that done openly and without consequence to it's participants is arguably healthy.
If you want a place where you can tone police with your bizarre puritanical standards there's plenty of alternatives.
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 No.12196

Age of consent laws have a chilling effect on sex in general and are utilized explicitly for the purpose of making sex a hazardous landscape. At the same time they have a noble purpose, to keep teenagers from being constantly propositioned by creeps. A good middle solution is just to punish whoever lied or initiated the relationship rather than the adult every single time.
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 No.12197

>>12196
>creeps
read: non-chad men that normalfaggots don't think should ever be allowed to get prime pussy because it hurts their feels
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 No.12198

>>12157

> its degenerate because of the sexualization of a vulnerable group (for lack of a better phrase)

What exactly is "degenerate" in this sexualization? Men have sexual feelings to young females (big question if they can be called a vulnerable group, I would call them a privileged group), so? Continue explaining.

> the very logic of what you said is retarded there is no shortage of women your age.

There is. Men tend to date with younger females, if they have such an opportunity. If that becomes forbidden, the overall amount of sexually available women decreases, while the amount of men remains the same. So the deficit of females also increases as well as the number of incels. Don't you understand such simple things?

> reread what you wrote you stupid illiterate mutt, do marxists only have one idea?

Marxists have lots of ideas, but turning men to incels or grannyfuckers is not one of them. Because it has nothing to do with the workers rights. Turning men to incels is nowadays the idea of feminists and bourgeois globalists. Why are you working on them?

> Why should we listen to marx?

You are comparing Zalkind and Marx? Lol. Who else is as respectful as Marx for you? Maybe, Joe Biden?

> so why push the liberal sexual politics that is failing infront of your stupid fat fucking face

Where do you see liberal sexual politics? Today sexual politics is completely antisexual. LGBT-propaganda, pedohysteria, feminists mocking and humiliation men for literally everything, cancelling men for flirting with women - everything is being made against natural sex. It's more like Victorian puritanical sexual politics, definitely not liberal.

> and no most people do not need to be having sex at all.

You may cut your balls off if you don't need sex. Go and do it, if you insist on what you've said. But don't tell normal healthy men that they also do not need sex.
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 No.12199

Age of consent is even more retarded than other "laws."

Try having actual rules that aren't retarded lies. Like, ban rape instead of just pretending to ban rape. Then you can prosecute rapists based on whether they've committed rape, instead of based on shit like age numbers.
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 No.12200

>>12160
> The problem isn’t sexualisation as much as it’s them being infantilised.

Based.

>>12161
> Forty isn’t old. And emm wanting a middle aged woman for sex isn’t deviant. Hell, teenage males used to crush on middle aged women.

Because their young female classmates preferred to fuck with older chads, huh?
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 No.12202

>>12197
> read: non-chad men that normalfaggots don't think should ever be allowed to get prime pussy because it hurts their feels

Based. No one cares that most adolescent 13-20 men just cannot get laid with females of their age, but then, after the men get older, get a job and try to get what they didn't have enough in their young ages, normies and feminists shout - look, a pedocreep! It's like torturing one with hunger, then release him after a couple of weeks, and then blame him for trying to steal food.
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 No.12206

>>12185
>Do you even know how to read i was asking for a source on teens being vulnerable due to social infantilization (which lets me know you're a boomer lmao) and i was calling your culture reactionary

You’re showing your ignorance with the constant usage of “boomer” and “reactionary “

>read the pamphlet it has no ties to past traditions

How do they not have ties to last traditions?
“No sex until marriage” is a common patriarchal rule.
“Do not change spouses often” is a common patriarchal rule.
As is “have sex scarcely”.

These are all part of past traditions.

As is the fear of precocious sexual development in children


>thats not what im saying stop acting obtuse you weird faggot

You’re the one being a weirdo here.

>only an actual, literal retard could attribute the degradation of ""american society"" to the raise in adulthood by how "infantilized" its teens and young adults are

This is showing me how retarded you really are.
Adolescence was a modern concept made to segregate teens and vicenarians from the working world.

Idk why you refuse to look at the fact that nowadays, your twenties is considered separate from actual adulthood when this was never the case in previous centuries

Also look at lack of industrial skills taught in schools.
And the normalization of adults being stuck in unskilled minimum wage jobs that used to be for teens.

You cannot dismiss that the median age of self-establishment has went up. People who want to start families are doing so past their prime.

Everyone outside the west is shocked at how the average American young adult is woefully unworldly and unskilled compared to their second/third world counterparts (although that’s changing now)

>is the alt right a website ? what is this supposed to mean

Stop being obtuse, you know what it is.

>>12196
>At the same time they have a noble purpose, to keep teenagers from being constantly propositioned by creeps.

Doubt. Because most creeps aren’t going up to teens they’re preying on legal age females/males whom are attractive to them.

A better way would be to give teens a sociolegal right to self defense.

>A good middle solution is just to punish whoever lied or initiated the relationship rather than the adult every single time.

And more often than we wanna admit, it’s the teen who did.
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 No.12207

>>12193
You’re coping. This is an incel board.
Although I don’t like the term incel because the actual definition doesn’t fit the people whom are described as such
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 No.12210

>>12207
You're coping and a humorless git. It's pretty obvious that most of the people here are just using incel terms tongue. Most of the discourse is fairly well grounded.
You're yet another brat of US imperialism that wants to censor any discussion that even remotely undermines your culture hegemony.
You're hysterically losing your spaghetti because you can't get the last word in on the resident hebephile.
I don't even agree at all with the person you're arguing with but if you don't think a lot of people hold beliefs like thst, including most of the Arab world, you're kidding yourself.
The fact of the matter is is that there is some moral ambiguity to the question of the age of consent. But instead of putting in the intellectual work to reconcile that you want to use force to create an artificial consensus.
You are weak, ignorant brat, and you hold back progress.
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 No.12211

>>12210
*just using incel terms tongue in cheek.
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 No.12214

>>12210
If I’m a brat you must be a a whiny old hag.

Also there no “tongue-in-cheek” bout using incel terms here.
You know that, I know that

You’re just an obnoxious manchild who also probably lives in the imperial core or sociogeographical proxy of it.

>You're yet another brat of US imperialism that wants to censor any discussion that even remotely undermines your culture hegemony.
>You're hysterically losing your spaghetti because you can't get the last word in on the resident hebephile.

Bruh wrf you saying?

There’s no censorship nor calling for censorship on this kind of discourse.

Indignant language like this is overpromoted for cultural hegemony
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 No.12216

>>12214
>If I’m a brat you must be a a whiny old hag.
You're the one crying about the sex and relationship board being an "incel board" because it's not Reddit tier man hating feminism.
No one asked you to be here. Hide the thread and kick rocks faggot.
>Also there no “tongue-in-cheek” bout using incel terms here.
You know that, I know that
Haha no thin skinned white knight. Just because there's some jokes at the expense of m'lady doesn't mean they're not in jest. Take this suffocating woke scolding back to Tik Tok
>You’re just an obnoxious manchild who also probably lives in the imperial core or sociogeographical proxy of it.
The point is I'm not adopting it's authoritarianism like you.
>There’s no censorship nor calling for censorship on this kind of discourse.
Bullshit, you're trying to walk the discourse to painting this board as reactionary and anti progressive. We know your fucking ya cry bully lib. The label incel carries heavy stigmas and by trying to paint the entire board as incels you're attempting smesr the reputation of everyone that posts here.
I bet you're one of the dumb faggots that got BTFO in the Passport Bro thread.
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 No.12217

>>12216
*We know your fucking tactics ya cry bully lib.
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 No.12218

>>12210
>>12211
>I was only pretending to be incel
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 No.12220

>>12198
>What exactly is "degenerate" in this sexualization?

do you even know what the word means? attraction to and sexualization of i quote "young beautiful adolescents females" is a clear decline of societal standards.

>There is. Men tend to date with younger females

and why cant those men just date women their age? show me this deficit of women on some type of stat

>Marxists have lots of ideas, but turning men to incels or grannyfuckers is not one of them.

no dating women your own age won't turn you into an incel

>Who else is as respectful as Marx for you? Maybe, Joe Biden?

they are both accomplished intellectuals who wrote on materialism but my point there was rhetoric to beg the question of why should we not believe zalkind

>Where do you see liberal sexual politics?

"LGBT-propaganda" as the first argument JFL and where is the pedohysteria bureaucrats get exposed for fucking and eating kids and nothing happens, and the last part is not liberalism moron and no sex and kinks are def more open

>You may cut your balls off if you don't need sex.

I was talking about you retards actually

>>12206
>showing your ignorance with the constant usage of “boomer” and “reactionary “

shut up you old retard

>These are all part of past traditions.

they aren't because under socialism they won't be tied to these past traditions retard (and have sex scarcely and do not change often is not patriarchal)

>Adolescence was a modern concept made to segregate teens and vicenarians from the working world.

your argument for this is that the savages of the past and the third/second world didn't do it this way and that finance capital is seeping into peoples everyday lives Just Fucking LOL

>Stop being obtuse, you know what it is.

I was mocking how the sentence didnt make sense retard how is leftychan a "leftist version of the alt right"

You're a brown pedophile kill yourself
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 No.12228

>>12197
prime pussy is such a gross term

minor girls are completely braindead and immature, there's no reason to find them attraction
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 No.12229

>>12228
*no reason to find them attractive
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 No.12230

>>12216
Idk where you get your strawmen from but it’s getting annoying.
Also Reddit is overrun with both radlib feminists and obnoxious redpillers like you

>>12220
>do you even know what the word means? attraction to and sexualization of i quote "young beautiful adolescents females" is a clear decline of societal standards.

Then society currently is opposite because young adults are sociosexually infantilized and discouraged from dating and sex

People are getting laid and having kids at much later age in life nowadays.

>they aren't because under socialism they won't be tied to these past traditions retard (and have sex scarcely and do not change often is not patriarchal)

Wrong. Patriarchal settings were obsessed with sexual activities for non-married adults

>your argument for this is that the savages of the past and the third/second world didn't do it this way and that finance capital is seeping into peoples everyday lives Just Fucking LOL

You’re proving my point then. Fincance capitalism is seeping into peoples lives and due to liability laws and erasure of blue collar skills in schools, people are still infantile in their twenties and thirties nowadays.

>>12228
Nice virtue signaling. Minors aren’t “brain dead” they’re immature yes but that’s due to cultural conditioning. By your logic, adults are also brain dead

>shut up you old retard

Thanks for proving my point that you’re an obnoxious edgelord who doesn’t know anything about what they’re taking about and ignorantly assumes things about others.

>"LGBT-propaganda" as the first argument JFL and where is the pedohysteria bureaucrats get exposed for fucking and eating kids and nothing happens, and the last part is not liberalism moron and no sex and kinks are def more open

You’re wrong on the last and first part. There’s no “propaganda” from LGBT community. At least no more than then being objectified as glamor figures

And kinks are less accepted nowadays. Even in fanfiction. Everything is “problematic” and “rapey”. Sexual liberalism is only used as pretense of civility

Millennials and zoomers are more puritanical about sex than boomers.
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 No.12231

>>12228
>>12229
This logic will have to extend to severely neurodivergent people and senile elderly
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 No.12233

>>12231
they're also malicious and gossipy and mean and value bad traits, could go on and on, they're a gross demographic, minor girls
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 No.12234

>>12233

same could be applied to adult females. I find more toxicity in adult hood than in childhood. It’s just because kids don’t have rights that their flaws are seen as much worse.
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 No.12235

>>12230
>Then society currently is opposite because young adults are sociosexually infantilized and discouraged from dating and sex

there being statistically "less sex" does not equal to what the cultural hegemony is pushing (especially because its caused by other reasons) and we are talking about what he said brainlet

>Patriarchal settings were obsessed with sexual activities for non-married adults

yeah and not systemic male domination they cared about the "sexual activity of non married adults" more JFL

>You’re proving my point then. Fincance capitalism is seeping into peoples lives and due to liability laws and erasure of blue collar skills in schools, people are still infantile in their twenties and thirties nowadays.

You'e so obviously apart of the 50% of amerimutts who cant read past a 6th grade level no these reasons aren't why "people are infantile" you old rotting retard look up any study about this ever

>assumes things about others.

show me a picture of your DoB on your id right now

>You’re wrong on the last and first part. There’s no “propaganda” from LGBT community.

You brought it up retard thats why its in quotations and i pointed out that it was the first argument

>And kinks are less accepted nowadays.

No they aren't smut books have never been more popular and same with these categories on porn sites

This is a good thing and it needs to continue till predators like you are stopped
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 No.12240

>>12235
>there being statistically "less sex" does not equal to what the cultural hegemony is pushing (especially because its caused by other reasons) and we are talking about what he said brainlet

Society is pushing “teen sex is rape and AIDS”.
They’re only promoting sex as a gatekeeping machanism.

>>12228
>prime pussy is a gross term

Whining about “grossness” about non-pathogenic things is obnoxious

Prime pussy is a thing. Prime age ends by age thirty-five thru forty.

>You'e so obviously apart of the 50% of amerimutts who cant read past a 6th grade level no these reasons aren't why "people are infantile" you old rotting retard look up any study about this ever

Academic skills are overestimated as a metric of adult competency

Also most people worldwide aren’t literate past seventh grade level
I’m talking about blue collar skills which are non existent in post-Cold War American schools.

>No they aren't smut books have never been more popular and same with these categories on porn sites

Again, that’s what I’ve been saying. Kinks are only accepted in fiction.


>show me a picture of your DoB on your id right now

You do it first
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 No.12242

>>12240
>They’re only promoting sex as a gatekeeping machanism.

what are you waffling about

>Also most people worldwide aren’t literate past seventh grade level

why does your every argument rely on the majority who are retarded, people should be able to read at a past seventh grade level in the us and yes people go to trade schools or just get apprenticeships for that what is your argument?

>Kinks are only accepted in fiction.

"same with these categories on porn sites" im sure more people are practicing kinks

>you first

im such a young(vol)cel i dont even have
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 No.12248

>>12228
>minor girls are completely braindead and immature
Wow ageist much? You should be more respectful and less bigoted, chud.
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 No.12253

>>12242
> why does your every argument rely on the majority who are retarded,

Isn’t that what your argumentative logic is? Justifying your indignation by using the retarded majority?

>people should be able to read at a past seventh grade level in the us and yes people go to trade schools or just get apprenticeships for that what is your argument?

Trade schools are never discussed much in American schools. Colleges are talked about endlessly.
The only people who end up in trade schools mainly are down-on-their-luck people nowadays.

> what are you waffling about

Sex is only promoted as a way to gatekeep people, especially young people. In meatspace, sex is actively discouraged for young people. It’s only allowed in advertising. And even then, a lot of ads about erectile performance drugs are aimed at older men looking to get their mojo on.

>”same with these categories on porn sites" im sure more people are practicing kinks

Those people are a minority. Most people are beating off to roleplay videos or cartoon porn.

>>12248
And these same people complain about discrimination against older people
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 No.12271

>>12253
>Isn’t that what your argumentative logic is? Justifying your indignation by using the retarded majority?

no argumentative logic is not when you use the retarded majority to justify your indignation

>Trade schools are never discussed much in American schools. Colleges are talked about endlessly.

this is just a lie vocational schools are talked about especially cause blue collar does pay "well" and not really many people go cause its ""easy"" money

>Sex is only promoted as a way to gatekeep people

how does it do this and again what are you talking about

>Most people are beating off to roleplay videos or cartoon porn.

and you think these are more vanilla why?

>And these same people complain about discrimination against older people

no we want more discrimination against older people
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 No.12274

>>12271
>this is just a lie vocational schools are talked about especially cause blue collar does pay "well" and not really many people go cause its ""easy"" money

Where?
Sounds like an outliers. Colleges are promoted all the time

>and you think these are more vanilla why?

What’s not vanilla about it?
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 No.12277

>>12220

> do you even know what the word means? attraction to and sexualization of i quote "young beautiful adolescents females" is a clear decline of societal standards.

No it is not. Men have been attracted, marrying and having sex with "young beautiful adolescents females" for the whole history of humanity. And even today they are doing so in some countries. Pedohysteria is a very new and modern (1990's+) politics, promoted by feminists and globalists. Promoted in order to suppress and control proletariat men. So, you basically work for feminists and globalists and against the male part of the proletariat.

Repeating my question again - how male attraction to young adolescent females can be degenerate? Giving the fact that most of men have this attraction?

> and why cant those men just date women their age? show me this deficit of women on some type of stat

Because young females are objectively much more valuable both as sex and romantic partners, than women 25+, not even talking about 30+. And if a 30yo man, that has been an incel for his whole life, is told to marry a 30yo woman, that has been fucking with chads for her whole life, he will consider it as injustice and he will not be happy with her. And even if she is virgin, he will say "well, other men (chads) have fucked a bunch of girls since their middle school, why should I fuck only one and old woman?".

> no dating women your own age won't turn you into an incel

It's like saying "eating from a trashcan doesn't make you hungry". Sex, as well as any other resource, should be distributed equally. Why should one fuck females of his age, let's say, 30yo, if he hasn't had sex with females of his age when he was 15? Who is gonna compensate the lost years?

> why should we not believe zalkind

I made a large reply to his 12 commandments, but you didn't manage to write any arguments against it.

> where is the pedohysteria bureaucrats get exposed for fucking and eating kids and nothing happens

Nothing happens because the bourgeois elites from the Epstein island are exactly those who have been promoting pedohysteria, but they don't promote it against themselves, they promote it against regular men, you idiot. You are showing completely no skills for class analysis.

> I was talking about you retards actually

What's the problem? I suggest you to prove that you don't really need sex. Or are you just a hypocrite?
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 No.12280

>>12274
>Sounds like an outliers. Colleges are promoted all the time

this doesn't mean that that trade schools aren't promoted they have always been treated as a viable second option especially by the media

>What’s not vanilla about it?

were not just talking about any porn its still the porn revolving those kinks

>>12277
>Men have been attracted

you're still using the past and third world as your justification just kys brownoid

"how male attraction" majority means nothing when the majority is retarded and brown and i already said the reason as to why its degenerate like two days ago?

>that has been an incel for his whole life

men who are incels at 30 aren't getting with older women you fucking loser you're so obviously a brown pedophile who wants to fuck young girls so i'll leave it at your perception of value is bourgeois and based off of abstract "values" only upheld by volkerabfalle

>Who is gonna compensate the lost years?

we aren't here to compensate anyone for anything retard and if women your age sounds like a trashcan you might actually be a pedophile


>I made a large reply to his 12 commandments

i still dont see it but its probably brownoid cope about shit he doesnt understand

>Nothing happens because the bourgeois elites from the Epstein island are exactly those who have been promoting pedohysteria, but they don't promote it against themselves, they promote it against regular men, you idiot. You are showing completely no skills for class analysis.

congressmen and cops are not bourgeois elites and nothing happened to them retard i meant anyone involved in it

>I suggest you to prove that you don't really need sex.

go back to esl retard i already proved that i don't need it
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 No.12285

>>12280

> you're still using the past and third world as your justification

I am, so what's the problem? You are using nothing but pathetic angry shouting.

> "how male attraction" majority means nothing when the majority is retarded

Why is the majority retarded? Maybe, it's you who is retarded? If you apply that attraction to young females is degenerate, you first must prove it. But it seems you are not able to it, lol.

> i already said the reason as to why its degenerate like two days ago

No, you haven't. You said some illogical bullshit, that proves nothing, but the fact that pedohysterical people have no arguments except their emotions.

> we aren't here to compensate anyone for anything

That's why you are a class enemy for incels and your bullshit posting is not needed here. Incels won't support those who say that they don't care about incels' needs.

> you might actually be a pedophile

Learn what the term "pedophile" means, at first.

> i still dont see it

Not only you're stupid, but also blind?

> congressmen and cops are not bourgeois elites and nothing happened to them retard i meant anyone involved in it

Who are congressmen and cops working for?

> go back to esl retard i already proved that i don't need it

Saying that you don't need it is not a proof. A worker can call himself a capitalists, but he will not stop being a worker after that. You are just a so-called incel in denial. It's very painful for you to admit that you are an incel and young females reject you, so you are sublimating it into hating sex.
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 No.12288

>>12285
>I am, so what's the problem?

they aren't civilized of course they aren't following what should be the societal standards and i haven't shouted once and i've been using logic to correct your claims

>Why is the majority retarded?

you couldn't even stay coherent in the rest of this "sentence", the global average autism score is like 90 and i already told you how that shows a decline from societal standards retard

>You said some illogical bullshit

in response to "liking adolescent girls shows a decline in societal standards" to which you justify by saying "see people in the past and in the third world today don''t do it that way"

>That's why you are a class enemy for incels

do soyim really?

"Learn what the term "pedophile" means, at first. "

"at first" and sorry i meant predator

>Not only you're stupid, but also blind?

copy and paste it here so i can debunk it

>Who are congressmen and cops working for

le people (public jobs and whatnot)

>Saying that you don't need it is not a proof.

that just wasn't my reason dickhead, my reason is that I have not reached full biological or social maturity as per the twelve sexual commandments of the revolutionary proletariat
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 No.12293

>>12288

> they aren't civilized of course

Who sets the standards for being civilized? You?

This nazi calls himself a marxist, lol.

> they aren't following what should be the societal standards

Again, who sets the standards? Why should people follow the standards of globalists, feminists and random puritanical dickheads like you?

> i've been using logic to correct your claims

Never knew that behaving yourself like a hysterical old hag with PMS is "using logic", lol. And you still haven't even explained why male attraction to young females is degenerate. Still waiting for it.

> i already told you how that shows a decline from societal standards retard

This social "standard" is relatively new and created artificially by the ruling class of capitalists and supported by feminists. It's made against men, the true aim of it is to cancel sex, atomize the society (so men would fear to talk with teens), demonize men and create new "witches" to hunt. So pedohysteria is just a capitalists' weapon in the current class war. Most men are attracted by young females, so this cannot be a perversion.

> do soyim really?

What?

> sorry i meant predator

Define predator. I would propose this - "the one who doesn't want to fuck old hags".

> copy and paste it here so i can debunk it

>>12153

> le people (public jobs and whatnot)

So, capitalists' servants work for people, not for the capitalists? You are definitely not a Marxist. Or a very stupid one.

> my reason is that I have not reached full biological or social maturity as per the twelve sexual commandments of the revolutionary proletariat

LOL. Have you ever seen such a cope, incel comrades? He's not an incel in denial, which can't get laid and doesn't even have balls to admit that. He's just following twelve sexual commandments, written by some Jew 100 years ago xD. Oh, funny motherfucker you are. By the way, what do you think Zalking would say about the fact that you masturbate your poor dickey every day? Is this okay for revolutionary proletariat? Or it's just a waste of time you could spend on fighting against capitalists (or, more likely, against incels)?
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 No.12319

>>12293
>This nazi calls himself a marxist, lol.

if you ever go back in time make sure to never ask marx and engels what their opinions on how civilized the third world and people of the past were. lol

> Why should people follow the standards of globalists, feminists and random puritanical dickheads like you?

read a book the standards i propose hae nothing to do with liberalism retard, nobody sets the standards and thats why they have fallen so low

>And you still haven't even explained why male attraction to young females is degenerate.

it shows a clear decline from societal standards. I mean only 100 years ago under the ussr did they endorse zalkinds twelve commandments.

>This social "standard" is relatively new and created artificially by the ruling class of capitalists

how did the capitalists make these standards exactly? and why would they make themselves look like pedophiles by upping the limit if they were just going to have sex with teens aswell (no this pedophilia stuff in the government and bourgeoisie didn't start at epstein) jfl "to cancel sex" "so men would fear talk to teens" "demonize men" you're so redpilled and christpilled bro do us all a favor and kys brownoid.

>Define predator.

someone who looks for vulnerable people for things (in this context sex)

im gonna respond to that under that thread but i already know its gonna be unfiltered cope about your brown culture

>capitalists' servants work for people

not what i said brown

you are so brown so i'll leave it at marx was a jew too
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 No.12320

>>12319
<This nazi calls himself a marxist, lol.
>if you ever go back in time make sure to never ask marx and engels what their opinions on how civilized the third world and people of the past were. lol
That's because today's radical leftism in America is not Karl Marx, but Karl Popper.
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 No.12322

>>12320
and here i was thinking they knew of how marx and engels used to talk about asiatic socities lol
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 No.12324

>>12319
>>12322
But Marx also said:
"Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living."
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 No.12325

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>>12319
>>12322
But what about Marx and Engels thinking this about Americans and other English speakers?
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 No.12327

>>12319
>>12322
But Marx also said:
"What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges."

(Critique of the Gotha Programme)
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 No.12328

>>12324
>but they do not make it as they please

im not the one arguing to go back to pre 1980 societal standards and "The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living." aligns with y views

>>12325

>But what about Marx and Engels thinking this about Americans and other English speakers?

they were germans trying to undo anglo dominance, but im sure many germans also struggled with their writings

>>12327
>"What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges."

so what? does this disprove what im saying?
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 No.12329

>>12328
>so what? does this disprove what im saying?
Well, you're implying Marx and Engels are like racist chuds
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 No.12332

>>12329
you're a jewish nigger
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 No.12335

>>12332
Back to /pol/ pig skin
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 No.12336

>>12332 i actually put uygur here idk why it put that
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 No.12340


Acceptable in my culture: Indian real estate agent gives bizarre reason for luring 9-year-old into his car in Canada
https://www.msn.com/en-in/crime/general/acceptable-in-my-culture-indian-real-estate-agent-gives-bizarre-reason-for-luring-9-year-old-into-his-car-in-canada/ar-AA22aE31
Why are so many religions like this?
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 No.12358

>>12288
>they aren't civilized of course they aren't following what should be the societal standards and i haven't shouted once and i've been using logic to correct your claims

You know that white people follow those same “uncivilized codes” of the “brown skins” you complain about? The whites just hide behind excessive liability laws.

Also funny that’s you’re racist assuming non whites aren’t civilized when white civilization was built on rape as pillaging of brown peopls
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 No.12370

>>12319

> if you ever go back in time make sure to never ask marx and engels what their opinions on how civilized the third world and people of the past were. lol

It would be useful for you to know, that Marx end Engels supposed that socialist revolutions would first start in developed industrial countries, but in fact the first socialist revolution came up in Russia. And a bit later some guys from one very progressive and civilized nation murdered tens of millions of people just because they considered them as lower beings. Would these social standards be appropriate for you, if you lived 90 years ago? Seems like they would.

> nobody sets the standards and thats why they have fallen so low
> it shows a clear decline from societal standards

If no one sets them, how do they exist?

> how did the capitalists make these standards exactly

Just like everything other - via media, laws, propaganda. The society's morale is defined by the ruling class.

> and why would they make themselves look like pedophiles by upping the limit if they were just going to have sex with teens aswell

I repeat it again, if you didn't get it for the first time - they're banning and cancelling sex for regular men, not for themselves.

> no this pedophilia stuff in the government and bourgeoisie didn't start at epstein

Attraction to teens is not pedophilia, but this stuff didn't start at Epstein indeed. The elites have been fucking young females since the ancient times, and there's nothing strange in that. Everyone would do so if he could. And the problem is not that some men have sex with young females. The problem is that other men don't.

> someone who looks for vulnerable people for things (in this context sex)

So? What's bad about this? And why are young females "vulnerable"? Some of them have higher bodycounts that most of grown men do.
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 No.12377

>>12288
>that just wasn't my reason dickhead, my reason is that I have not reached full biological or social maturity as per the twelve sexual commandments of the revolutionary proletariat

People reach biological maturity by fifteen.
We extended the childhood stage by ten years

>it shows a clear decline from societal standards. I mean only 100 years ago under the ussr did they endorse zalkinds twelve commandments.

If anything society has INCLINED by your standards. People nowadays think young adults dating anyone a few years their senior is “pedophilia”

A lot of people in their thirties say they find anyone younger than them is unattractive
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 No.12378

>>12288
>they aren't civilized of course they aren't following what should be the societal standards and i haven't shouted once and i've been using logic to correct your claims

You’ve been throwing around slurs and death threats and most of your “facts” are merely opinions without much evidence
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 No.12379

>>12358
>The whites just hide behind excessive liability laws.

i know i think all non marxists are this degernarated im simply only speaking to a brown so im not gonna call him a crakkka (and i never said brownskins)

and rape against your enemies is based
> but in fact the first socialist revolution came up in Russia.

wrong it was in paris russia was the 3rd revolution but the only one to win and the ussr itself killed millions and germany was not more progressive then them (maybe civilized but thats because of the headstart)

>If no one sets them, how do they exist?

no individual* i messed up

>The society's morale is defined by the ruling class.

jargon there is more than several historical examples of the modern moral contradicting with the bourgeoisies and peoples ethics are usually taught at home

>they're banning and cancelling sex for regular men, not for themselves.

this still doesn't make sense why make yourself the outlier? just because le supply will be bigger?

>Attraction to teens is not pedophilia

maybe some other philia but it will never be right and you're just outing yourself as a predator who can't get any JFL

>So? What's bad about this?

im going to rape your mother while she is on her death bed

>People reach biological maturity by fifteen.

source?

>If anything society has INCLINED by your standards. People nowadays think young adults dating anyone a few years their senior is “pedophilia”

this sentence isn't coherent try again retard and yes attraction isn't based on primal urges and that is good

>You’ve been throwing around slurs and death threats and most of your “facts” are merely opinions without much evidence

ask me for a source then subhuman
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 No.12380

>>12377
>People reach biological maturity by fifteen
my penor was ready since 11
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 No.12391

>>12379
>and rape against your enemies is based

You this while complaining about “liberal socialization”?

>source

Read any basic medical biology article.
Human puberty goes from around age nine thru fifteen

>maybe some other philia but it will never be right and you're just outing yourself as a predator who can't get any JFL

Soon, sexual attraction to vicenarians will be considered “pedophilia”

>this sentence isn't coherent try again retard and yes attraction isn't based on primal urges and that is good

You sure? There’s a lot of antisocial/homocidal forms of attraction that aren’t based on primal urges.

Also my sentence isn’t incoherent. The average postboomer adult thinks vicenarians dating anyone outside their age group is “grooming”
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 No.12392

>>12379

> there is more than several historical examples of the modern moral contradicting with the bourgeoisies

So what? No one says that 100% of the modern moral is created to serve the bourgeois.

> peoples ethics are usually taught at home

Today parents don't teach their children much, it's the Internet that's doing it instead.

> this still doesn't make sense why make yourself the outlier?

They are not doing it to make themselves "the outlier", they are doing it in order to deprive men of sex, to cancel sex, to make men incels. Because without sex men become weak, egoist, atomized, authoritarian and easy to rule and oppress. They want most men to be sexless slaves that only work for the corporations, but do not fight against the system.

> maybe some other philia but it will never be right

It has been right for the whole history of humanity.

> im going to rape your mother while she is on her death bed

Good luck. Probably, it's your only way to lose your virginity xD
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 No.12393

>>12377

> People reach biological maturity by fifteen

I started masturbating when I was 12. And when I was 13 I wanted to fuck all of my female classmates. But never mind, the reason of that is not human biology and physiology, the true reason is LIBERAL DEGENERATES xD
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 No.12395

>>12393
>I started masturbating when I was 12. And when I was 13 I wanted to fuck all of my female classmates.
Same. I would've started doing it at 5 or 6 if I had known how. Actually I was already fantasizing sex with classmates at that age. This sounds bad but I jumped on girl at around 5 because I was horny for her. She screamed and I was at home so I jumped off. I must've learned the concept of consent after that. In fact maybe too well since I never had sex.
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 No.12397

>>12391
>You this while complaining about “liberal socialization”?

this was an obvious joke

>ead any basic medical biology article.

id like to know which one you're reading because puberty ends at 16-17 (not that it marks biological maturity anyways)

>sexual attraction to vicenarians will be considered “pedophilia”

slippery slope fallacy people don't even know what that mean scrub

>The average postboomer adult thinks vicenarians dating anyone outside their age group is “grooming”

you can't just keep saying shit that doesn't happen as fact and like which ones?

>No one says that 100% of the modern moral is created to serve the bourgeois.

so prove that that part is

>it's the Internet that's doing it instead.

even worse the internet is largely decentralized

>they are doing it in order to deprive men of sex, to cancel sex, to make men incels.

bourgeoisie international plot to make men incels JFL just shut up

>for the whole history of humanity.

you can't keep relying on the past for justification lmao

>it's your only way to lose your virginity

i can rape you too

> I was 13 I wanted to fuck all of my female classmates.

you're a degenerate who grew up this way because f liberalization the neo-bolsheviks will save you soon.

>Actually I was already fantasizing sex with classmates at that age. This sounds bad but I jumped on girl at around 5 because I was horny for her.

you people should've been castrated.
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 No.12398

>>12395
>since I never had sex.
According to some psychoanalysts and philosophers, masturbating yourself is the same as a having sex with another person. Both count as sex according to some psychoanalysts and philosophers.

Thoughts on this?
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 No.12400

>>12398
If it was accepted by most people that masturbation counts as sex then I would brag that I've had sex thousands of times. But alas I don't think most people accept masturbation as sex and I'm not weird or brave enough to argue otherwise.
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 No.12401

>>12400
Darn…
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 No.12406

>>12397
>id like to know which one you're reading because puberty ends at 16-17 (not that it marks biological maturity anyway)

Then what is the mark of biological maturity then? Menopause?

>slippery slope fallacy people don't even know what that mean scrub

“Slippery slope fallacy” is what you’re doing, denying young people as full fledged adults

Also, vicenarian means “twenty-something”

>you can't just keep saying shit that doesn't happen as fact and like which ones?

A lot of tricenarian a say they don’t find vicenarians are attractive because “muh brain development”

>even worse the internet is largely decentralized

Wrong. The Internet is centralized. Also it’s wrong to blame the Internet

>>12398
This is a retarded rationalization. Do you count suicide as homicide?


>you're a degenerate who grew up this way because f liberalization the neo-bolsheviks will save you soon.

I take it you’ve never hung out with old men before? It’s common to have sexual desire for schoolmates of the opposite sex. This was a thing even before “liberal socialisation”

>you people should've been castrated.

Why? For having a sex drive?

No offense but you come off to me as someone who is way too in denial about the human world.
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 No.12407

>>12397
>slippery slope fallacy

That’s what you’re doing, treating youth sexuality as degeneracy. Thinking that young people having sex or relationships will lead to absolute whoredom
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 No.12408

>>12407
>>12397
>>slippery slope fallacy

That’s your logic towards young people entering the workforce. You act like young people doing any industrial activity is gonna dumb then down/abuse them
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 No.12410

>>12406
>what is the mark of biological maturity then? Menopause?

its a multifaceted thing if not obvious mostly revolving around the brains development (though obviously including the rest of the mature markers) and in this context societal maturity

>denying young people as full fledged adults

this isn't the slippery slop fallacy nor is it wrong? you're trying to label 14-15 year olds as adults

> The Internet is centralized. Also it’s wrong to blame the Internet

no it isn't and i wasn't you made that point

>I take it you’ve never hung out with old men before?

i forgot to include 'conservative socialization', quite frankly any type of socialization under a class society does that to people

>No offense but you come off to me as someone who is way too in denial about the human world.

wheres the giga but in all seriousness that guy was telling a story about how he was so horny he jumped on a girl and borderline assaulted her, in any real society that little uygha would've been punished

>>12407
>Thinking that young people having sex or relationships will lead to absolute whoredom

this just hasn't been my point against "youth sexuality" brainlet

>That’s your logic towards young people entering the workforce. You act like young people doing any industrial activity is gonna dumb then down/abuse them

where did i imply this?
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 No.12419

>>12410
>you're trying to label 14-15 year olds as adults
What's wrong with that? If you shot up your school at 15 you'd be tried as an adult.
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 No.12420

>>12410
>its a multifaceted thing if not obvious mostly revolving around the brains development (though obviously including the rest of the mature markers) and in this context societal maturity
I’m talking specifically BIOLOGICAL maturity you ignoramus.


Besides, you know that neuroscientists now say brain development finishes around 35-40?

May as well extend adolescence until 35

Regardless concerning your “multifaceted” theory, kids were socialised alongside adults an were trained in worldly affairs such as work, customs, etc

So by your metric, we have delayed maturity. People were considered adults in their teens in the old days both biologically and socially.


>this isn't the slippery slop fallacy nor is it wrong? you're trying to label 14-15 year olds as adults

Maybe because they are? They’re tried as adults for crime and are expected to work.
Your philosophy is divorced from reality

>no it isn't and i wasn't you made that point


Explain how the current Internet isn’t centralized.
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 No.12421

>>12419
This HatefulGramscian guy is an ignoramus. Don’t argue with him.
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 No.12424

>>12419
> If you shot up your school at 15 you'd be tried as an adult.

well yeah thats an extreme case

>>12420
>I’m talking specifically BIOLOGICAL maturity you ignoramus.

yes uygha thats why i said its a multifaceted thing

>you know that neuroscientists now say brain development finishes around 35-40?

"which averages to 20" just reread what i wrote retard by my metric people are considered mature too early (biologically) and socially to late "in the old days" JFL

>They’re tried as adults for crime and are expected to work.

they aren't expected to work and they're only tried as adults if they do some real fucked up shit and the reality under a liberal society? sure

>how the current Internet isn’t centralized.

I think you think im talking about the internets infrastructure and not the people on it but if you don't then because of how many different people (in variety) are on here?
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 No.12425

>>12421
You just learned this word
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 No.12426

>>12420
>neuroscientists now say brain development finishes around 35-40
Neuroscientists say a lot of things, many of which have been found to not be replicable. Also:

>roasties work in psychology
>keep getting older
>guys keep not wanting them
>oh shit, better increase the age at which the brain supposedly matures again
>a couple years ago they said it was 25
I'M NOTICING
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 No.12519

>>12424
>they aren't expected to work and they're only tried as adults if they do some real fucked up shit and the reality under a liberal society? sure

Wrong. Even for more moderate crimes, teens are treated as adults and are still seen as old enough to work although it’s becoming seen as irrelevant due to increased workload in homework.
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 No.12523

>>12519
>Even for more moderate crimes, teens are treated as adults

name these moderate crimes and no like many teens still work shithead its seen as "irrelevant" for other issues like parents shifting to prioritizing academic preparation
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 No.12526

>>12426
>roasties work in psychology
>I'M NOTICING
What about the patriarchy?
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 No.12556

>>12526
>what about the Easter Bunny
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 No.12558

>>12556
Are you denying there is a patriarchy that would actually tip the scales the other way instead, meaning it's more likely to generally espouse male-biased views?
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 No.12568

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>>9501
I TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN
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 No.12608

>>12568
What if I showed up to a Black Lives Matter protest with a shirt that says "He didn't do nothing"? Maybe MAGA experiences it the same way.
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 No.12678

Being legally adult doesn't mean she is an adult person, she is still a child. I am close to some young celebrities' age but still, I think that way. The fact someone out there who is in his 30s looking at some girl's pictures and being sexually attracted disgusts me.
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 No.12680

>>12678
This is infantilization you’re proposing.
You say late teens/ early-vicenarians are children but expect them to work, serve in military, and get jailtime for committing crime.
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 No.12682

>>12678
She’s only a child by your cultural norms.
Biologically and cognitively they’re adult.
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 No.12686

>>12678
Idk what’s up with millennials and zoomers projecting their delayed maturity onto young adults but it’s getting really annoying.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this current sex-negativity zeitgeist is due to internalized infantilization.

So much for being the most “tolerant/progressive” generations to ever grace the earth. You all want to make every prime age person into a post-pubescent infant to cover for your lack of adult accomplishments
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 No.12687

>>12678
Love is love bigot.
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 No.12688

before 18yo there is just too much change occurring … potentials & opportunities to be had need the focus … any emerging persona needs the focus … "sex" has too much politique over actualities … the rhetoric of sex/drugs is worse than the sex/drugs … sex is war … fertility & coziness are better to deal with ;)
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 No.12693

>>12688
>before 18yo there is just too much change occurring
source: my feels
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 No.12695

>>12688
The same is true for after age eighteen.
Most of the turmoil before eighteen is purely cultural modernities.

Idk if you notice but most of our pedagogy nowadays seems to be more concerned with maintaining idealism rather than worldly prep.

I'm the old days, we had children socialized alongside adults. Adolescence was a modern invention to accommodate the newfound K-12 education system.

Before then, schooling was more immersive with worldly activities.
Kid learned life skills directly.

Our modem education separates kids into an artificial biome where they can only socialize with same-age peers exclusively and being ordered around by adults for academic tasks. They're not being mentored by adults, they're just domesticated by them.
Sex doesn't have as much politque as you think. It's romance that does.
Also "emerging personas"? Really?

Tabular rasa is terrible philosophy.
Children and teens are already individualised beings with quirks and talents.
Our current society forces them to remain spectators or pets.
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 No.12728

What if the age of consent was sixteen or seventeen~
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 No.12738

>>12728
It actually is in most places including much of the US. Americans are just retards who don't know their own laws.
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 No.12739

>>12738
It’s around fourteen for some places.
Also, Americans aren’t the only ignoramuses about their own domestic laws
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 No.12762

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>Ewww pedo! Even though nothing sexual was said and I was willingly holding a come conversation with him. He was grooming me!

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