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 No.6102[View All][Watch Thread]

Who is best girl
And why is it Misato Katsuragi
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 No.8483>>8490>>8493>>8538>>8543>>8753

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Everything you need to know about NGE is in this analysis
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 No.8490

>>8483
I have a lot more respect for Eva now
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 No.8493>>8494>>8500

>>8483
Hmmm,
If Anno hates his fans what would Anno think of the people who think that Eva is overrated garbage, though?
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 No.8494

>>8493
Maybe he just ignores them
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 No.8498>>8517

Why is there always at least one massive Evangelion thread on /a/ with the same debates and posts as always? I just remembered that.

>>8479
Well, I find that ironic cat meme to be more incomprehensible than Eva, if I'm being honest.
I might be remembering things wrong, it's been years since I watched it. At the end of the original series (in the finale movie), during the Third Impact, all of humanity turns into a liquid that's called "LCL", a state in which they're supposed to be happy because people's insecurities are eradicated since everyone complements each other as they have now become one. Because of how it played out, all the people that turned into LCL have the choice to regain their human/physical body at the cost of having flaws and potentially hurting each other as separate entities again.
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 No.8500>>8504

>>8493
He wants them to think that precisely. There is nothing more pleasing for him, than to see some weebs discussing and raging over this show
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 No.8501>>8503>>8752

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Whats the meaning of Komm Süßer Tod?
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 No.8503

>>8501
"i want die"
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 No.8504>>8512

>>8500
Then what does he think about the people who enjoy seeing fans rage over it?
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 No.8512

>>8504
I assume he is indifferent to it, as he essentially is that person too. He only wants to stick it to otakus
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 No.8513>>8514>>8515

>>6328
???
Is this just some kind of IP cash grab like star wars
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 No.8514>>8515

>>8513
tbh i dont quite understand what anno is doing with NGE there are like 20 different endings now
Does he need to money
Does he want to make everyone happy
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 No.8515

>>8513
100% yes.

>>8514
It's called greed.
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 No.8517>>8519>>8538

>>8498
>that spoiler
bruh who the fuck made this show
holy shit what the hell does it all mean

i kinda get it why people talk about it still now
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 No.8519>>8543

>>8517
IIRC

AT fields are a metaphor for the divisions that people put between themselves and others for various reasons, for good or ill. They're what enable humans to maintain their individuality. The instrumentality project dissolves the human AT fields, in which all humanity merges into one collective consciousness. By eliminating the AT field and merging humanity, the pain created by division is supposedly eliminated as humanity achieves perfect understanding of its constituent parts.

Shinji balks at this in part because he's mortified by the ordeal of being known.
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 No.8538

>>8517
If you want reasons, read this >>8483
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 No.8543>>8556>>8567

>>8483
That fucking shithead creep who jacks it to a unconcious girl is gay?
I have seen this show talked about everywhere but I never knew that happened in the show

Anyways I googled the show and can't really find much of the "hate" the creator has for the fans and otaku but that might becase western news sources might not cover it as much

Whatever. I'm not really into the otaku shit and I don't really understand the point of making something you hate or watching something that you know is made by somebody who hates you but whatever

This fucking anime is too good damn layered with metaphors and deep irl lore too it seems. Not my tempo.

>>8519
I am a narcissist. I would love to be known over and over and over again.
I want everybody to read my mind and fully become me and I want to be inside everyone.
I don't know any other sexual innuendoes to make of this.



>he ordeal of being known

Seriously tho, What does this phrase mean exactly
Like does it mean that everybody will know your entire lifes actions, dreams, fears?

Is this shinji character not accepting of who he is and what he has done
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 No.8556

>>8543
>That fucking shithead creep who jacks it to a unconcious girl is gay?
It's very heavily implied, not explicitly stated but it's obvious that Shinji had feelings for Kaworu (at least in the original series), but still there are fans who completely deny it.
As for the masturbation scene, well, the cast is full of fucked up individuals.
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 No.8567>>8571>>8574

>>8543
Shinji's fucked up and can't deal with rejection. For him every opportunity to connect with someone is a new opportunity for someone to find out how rotten he is, and subsequently abandon him once they've gotten their use out of him.

Shinji being gay is debatable, but his time with Kaworu is some of the only time that he's actually happy, in part because Kaworu accepts Shinji unconditionally. Which of course makes it all the more traumatic for Shinji when he has to murder him.
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 No.8571>>8573>>8583

>>8567
HE FUCKING KILLS HIM?
i hate shinji
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 No.8573>>8575

>>8571
do you know NGE only from the memes?
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 No.8574>>8642

>>8567
The true crux here is that Shinji is not the rotten one. Everyone else is and they can't connect to each other because of it. The idea of Shinji being a porcupine was projection.
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 No.8575>>8751

>>8573
I don't know NGE at all
Everything I have known about it so far has been against my will

I like gag anime like Dr.Slump and Dragon Ball
Not mecha stuff
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 No.8582>>8592

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 No.8583

>>8571
Bro, you're literally skipping the whole series and going straight to the ending spoilers. You lack all of the context.
Go and watch it, it's only 25 episodes. It starts slow and seems like any other mecha series until Asuka joins the cast (iirc). Then it becomes a wild ride.
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 No.8592>>8600>>8669

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>>8582
You have been exposed twitter migrant
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 No.8600

>>8592
You just exposed yourself as a soyjak.party migrant.
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 No.8615>>8617

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dont do it
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 No.8617

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 No.8642>>8644

>>8574
Generally I'd agree, yeah, but it's a projection that Shinji's internalized. That's one of the reasons I really like ReTake, because Shinji has his epiphany and comes around to the idea that, hey, maybe he isn't the fucked up one here.
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 No.8644

>>8642
>>8642
>but it's a projection that Shinji's internalized.
Exactly.
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 No.8669

>>8592
Critical Support to ShroomChads to kill the soyjaks forever
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 No.8729>>8751

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This is (You)
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 No.8749

>>6123
>>6124
>Cus that's exactly what every confused gay teen going through puberty wants
<a boyfriend
Except that's not what Kaworu is or is meant to represent originally, it arrived because of Japan's obsession with Yaoi. Even Anno himself mentioned in an interview that he approved the Mangaka's Fudaka shit because he didn't know how else to flesh out his plot-device of a character.

Shinji isn't supposed to be gay or bi or any sexuality, because that's not the point at all. He's looking for love while simultaneously believing that he is not loved, because he doesn't think himself worthy of love and therefore affection - this is worsened by Misato struggling with her own grief, Rei being mindwiped and placed in her new body, Asuka going off the rails and all his friends being sent the fuck away.

And so at his lowest point, Shinji meets Kaworu, who with a constant smile and persistence continues to interact with him, his Angelic nature meaning that he disrupts human social customs because he is unaware of them. Then it turns out he is Tabris and Shinji is forced to fight him, and Shinji states
<"You betrayed me, like my FATHER"
Unless we're reading Adam Kadomon fanfiction, Shinji wasn't sexually involved or in any way attracted to Gendo and the relationship between father and son differs to that between lovers, which would imply that Kaworu had become a support for Shinji, with something as vulgar as sexual attraction being irrelevant.

The inclusion of "sex" into the manga cheapened this, as did Kaworu's wanton killing of a kitten with the typical nihilist "it'll die anyway" garbage. It's not the gayness that is annoying, but how it translates the desperation of Shinji into a discount homolust tease doujin. While the anime doesn't fuck this up, the manga goes full retard with it, and subsequently we've had a consistent rise in KawoShin shipping garbage and associated cancer. Not that unironic Asuka-Rei fags are much better, but given Kaworu's character being pivoted on Shinji (from the audience's point of view), it devalue's his character into "muh gay bishounen uwu" tosh rather than being the rather beautiful symbolism he was.

TL;DR: It ain't about yaoi-shit or romantic crap but about desperation and it's search for a supporting love.
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 No.8750

>>6185
Anyone living in a burger city like Chicago or Boston that has to commute can understand this, as do Russians and Europe.
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 No.8751>>8757

>>6342
About 4 months late but don't watch that shit, it's trash.
>>8729
>soyjacks all around
How unoriginal
>>8575
The hell are you doing here then? Also goddamn get some better taste.
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 No.8752

>>8501
Come Sweet Death is the meaning. I think that's where the old 4chan meme came from.
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 No.8753

>>8483
>this rookieshit
This is a decent post but it barely scrapes the surface of the complex embroilment of Anno's insanity.
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 No.8755

>>6848
>Cold Clinical woman who has little moral or ethical qualms
>hates her mother but emulates her anyway
>projects her hatred for Gendo using her for sex onto Rei, further stunting the latter's social growth and making her subconsciously miserable
<'best girl'
I can understand and sympathize with her on a human level, but she's a few strings short of a war criminal, She'd probably kill you in your sleep with an undetectable poison she'd concoct out of sheer boredom.
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 No.8757>>8759

>>8751
>About 4 months late but don't watch that shit, it's trash.
If it's fun or helps me understand fan reactions better, I will watch them. Not like I'll take them as canon over the original series.
>The hell are you doing here then? Also goddamn get some better taste.
stfu f/a/ggot
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 No.8759>>8762

>>8757
If you absolutely have to watch it, then I suggest you drink while doing so. After 2.0 I couldn't get through the last 2 films sober, because every moment of stupidity and drama made me want to shake Anno by his lapels and ask him to stop.
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 No.8762>>8767

>>8759
>because every moment of stupidity and drama made me want to shake Anno by his lapels and ask him to stop.
I know absolutely nothing about the films except for a couple of details and the existence of Mari. What's so stupid about them? Please give me a quick rundown.
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 No.8767>>9552

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>>8762
Ok first two films were not as good as the original, but moslty followed the original series up until Zeruelstill tried to remain consistent with the themes, and did have their own good ideas, however now Angels are much easier to beat for no reason. There is also some hints about it being a continuation from EoE where everything starts over anew but with traces of the previous series (the Ocean is LCL for example). On top of that when facing Zeruel, Shinji is conscious and he causes 3rd impact by trying to pull Rei out, only to be stopped by Kaworu with yet another Spear and another Evangelion from the moon.
The scene where Shinji fights Zeruel for Rei is pretty good, btw.
However now we get to the real shit show of 3.0 and frankly I'd have an easier time listing what is not wrong with it, among which is the Kaworu and Shinji playing on the piano scene.
I suggest enjoying these video reviews, as they put things into words better than I can manage at 4AM.
DemolitionD series on Rebuilds
Part 1: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2dwnvb
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEn6-vLYvFQ
Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sATCoI7Ozk4
Pleeb and Weeb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCtEVnhf0z8

As for 3.0+1.0, …I don't even know where to begin to describe the awfulness except to say that it's not even Evangelion at this point anymore. Oh I guess Mari - she's a time traveling 'friend' or sister of Yui Ikari and she basically becomes Shinji's girl at the end, because it was in fact her grand plan all along to bring Shinji happiness - yes the entire mess where she barely interacted with anyone and barely did anything outside of jobbing in her Eva, was part of a grand attempt to fix everything in some strange timeloop thing. It was essentially nonsense, and Anno tried to pretend that "The Curse of Evangelion" was an analogy for Evangelion plaguing everything he did or was, forcing him to repeatedly work on it to appease fans… and that 4.0 was him breaking away and being free… which was all nonsense of course.

Oh and the artstyle and animation is worse with it's reliance on CGI, pic 2 related.
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 No.9548

Looks like 3.0 + 1.0 is up on Nyaa!!
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 No.9551

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 No.9552>>9559

>>8767
>I don't even know where to begin to describe the awfulness
Completely shit take, I just watched it and I liked it a lot.

I would rather have had the whole thing be done in traditional cell medium but since the reality is that can't be done I at least liked the fact that there were scenes that were completely 2d. And even the mix of different styles (2d, 3d, completely trippy shit at the end, and even how there *real life* shots are interspersed that reference the ending was kind of cool.

I thought the plot was enjoyable, I could follow it better than the other eva movies actually.

The deep dive into each character's thoughts at the end was a nice wrap up of unanswered questions for me.

There is some really good character progression.

Idk, obviously it's not the original show, it was probably never meant to be, but it's a great finale to an amazing series, I think the hate it gets is completely unwarranted, or maybe it is from some purist perspective but I really enjoyed the film and I think people should just go and watch it.
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 No.9558

>bumping this god awful thread instead of the original
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 No.9559

>>9552
>shit take
Wrong.
>rather have had the whole thing be done in traditional cell medium
SO you admit it's worse than the budget original series?
>but since the reality is that can't be done
Why not? There are plenty of animators and they already work for shit-wages anyway. Anno took as much time as he wanted making this sequel and still managed to fail to use good 2D stuff. The CG was passable but clashes with the 2D background and is cluttered as fuck.
> there *real life* shots
That's nothing new, Anno did all of that in the original series' final episodes during Shinji's breakdown. He ripped off his own ending.
>the plot was enjoyable, I could follow it better than the other eva movies actually.
Better than the first two? Not in my opinion - those stories followed the original NGE plot and somewhat made sense, this just feels like a mecha fantasy a la Darling in the Franxx. Being better than 3.0 is not a major achievement.
>deep dive into each character's thoughts at the end
Again, same as the original, but worse.
>good character progression
hahaha what!? Where? None of the characters are even their original selves except for the adults and pink sloot. Rei wants to be a farmer and falls apart, Asuka remains an angry midget with mood swings, Shinji repeats his mood swings just like in the past 2 movies, Misato apparently abandoned her own child and be angry all the time, Ritsuko is a paper-cut half-heartedly pandering to the lesbian fans because "muh yuri fanfiction". It's all so tiresome. To someone approaching Evangelion for the first time or having watched the originals a while ago, this may not be apparent, but it is to me, which is why I loathe it.

Sure this is passable entertainment but frankly, if I wanted that, I wouldn't be watching Evangelion for that.
>a great finale to an amazing series
Not to me
>purist
Ok, lets go with an analogy, Godfather and Godfather II are some of the most well known films about the Mafia and are acclaimed as cinematographic masterpieces, yet the third film is hated. The Third film isn't all that bad, but a lot of the things it introduces and does makes it's good content feel inane and out of place, and feels like a low effort imitation of the original. If the rebuilds were stand-alone films unrelated to NGE completely then there wouldn't be a problem, and I dare say people wouldn't dunk on it, but it's precisely because it banks on the success of the original series and its own hype, that makes it so egregious to me.
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 No.9561

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does anyone have the original?
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 No.9587

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what scene is this meme from?

the lady looks cute

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