Neon Genesis Evangelion

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 01:47:53 No.6103

Some people want a strong woman with opinions and thoughts of her own. These people have bad taste.

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 01:49:16 No.6104

>>6103
Destroying the world is a pretty strong opinion though

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 01:51:34 No.6105

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she's real in my dreams

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 01:59:28 No.6106

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>>6105
I feel you

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 02:17:20 No.6108

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Whoever wins, Evangelion is still pretentious trash.

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 02:20:43 No.6109

For me, it’s Yui.

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 02:39:24 No.6110

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>>6109
Interesting pick

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 03:09:51 No.6111

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did you know that your kid can be only as smart as your wife?

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 05:14:13 No.6113

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>>6108
I only enter Eva threads for delicious, salty comments like these.

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 10:20:10 No.6114

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Shinji is best girl (for kaworu) obviously

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 10:21:24 No.6115

>>6111
best girl definitely.

>>6114
also this.

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 13:33:38 No.6117

>>6114
Isnt he just Rei for Homosexuals?

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 14:20:25 No.6118

>>6117
Rei never rubbed one out over anyone's comatose body

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 16:09:23 No.6120

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>>6118
I meant kaworu

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 16:38:51 No.6121

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>>6120
Well in that case yes, kinda, insofar as a father is just a mother for homosexuals.

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 17:31:44 No.6123

>>6121
this is one of many placeholder symbolism I do not appreciate from NGE. Even after watching reboot I still don't appreciate how Kaworu is depicted. Like, why would you bioengineer a boytoy for confused teen having hard time with puberty? Shinji needed a dad not girl(boY) who is easier to talk to. If Kaworu slept with either Rei or Asuka it would have been based AF bonus point if shinji masturbates to the scene

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 17:57:00 No.6124

>>6123
>Like, why would you bioengineer a boytoy for confused teen having hard time with puberty?
Cus that's exactly what every confused gay teen going through puberty wants? A (boy)friend?
Shinji needed a dad, and never really had one, and wants the one that's basically right infront of him, that's exactly why getting him a new, different dad wouldn't have worked. You can look at Misato and Kaiji as examples of attempted replacement mother and father figures for Shinji and in both it doesn't work because there's a void there that can't quite be crossed, the mother-Mistato relation just gets diverted into sexual frustration with Asuka and the brief father-Kaiji relation falls short of Shinji's desire. In the end Kaworu was exactly what Shinji wanted, a christ-like father-brother figure who would love him unconditionally. Him sleeping with anyone else makes zero sense as well, that role is pretty much filled by Rei witnessing Gendo and Ritsuko, or Misato and Kaiji.

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 18:38:30 No.6125

>>6124
no I was larping as gen X failed father figure. I think kaworu teaching Shinji how it's done among guys could have destroyed shinji bit further and actually cause Third impact instead of… whatever we got at the end of Evangelion. Obviously this wouldn't work with current Kaworu's design choices but if Kaworu was introduced bit earlier in the show as frenemiy antagonist in classroom settings, it might have been interesting instead of the other guy who got crushed during test drive. he really doesn't contribute anything beyond momentary guilt

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 19:08:03 No.6127

I used to be all about Asuka, but now I'm more drawn to Misato. Rei and Kaworu are great too. I wouldn't mind doing all the house chores If I was living with Misato.

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 19:11:48 No.6128

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>>6127
I feel you when I was younger I really liked Rei
But after a recent rewatch I felt more drawn to Misato I understand her much better now

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 21:27:12 No.6131

>>6128
Yep. 100%.
My bf and I watched and discussed it a lot. It might sound cringe, but it felt like I understood more about adulthood, about myself, about others. It was a very profound experience.

I watched it when I was younger and it was a very profound experience as well, but for very different reasons. As >>6124 says
>Cus that's exactly what every confused gay teen going through puberty wants?
I cried watching it. It made me feel so so alone, and in many ways I was. Shinji was insufferable, but watching him was like watching myself be a pathetic cringelord IRL that was grappling with their own alone-ness. It made me confront parts of me back then.

Second time I saw it was 10+ years later and my focus was much more on Misato. I understood Shinji much better and saw him with less cringe, perhaps because I don't see myself in him as much.

The series end is so god damn cathartic. It's like coming down from a really good acid trip.

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 21:41:13 No.6132

>>6131

You know, the more I think about it, I guess properly critiquing NGE requires lgbtq perspective. I was too dense to realize that Shinji could have been suffering not only sexual frustration but confusion too. He is cringelord if I only focus on his refusal to accept adulthood but to think he could have been bi or gay teen going through puberty make things bit darker.

Did you see evangelion 3.0? What are your thoughts on ending sequence?

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 23:15:41 No.6136

>>6132
>I guess properly critiquing NGE requires lgbtq perspective
Not that anon, but I think you are right. Although not as important as the main themes, I think gender stuff is explored in the series. Like, the main cast of characters don't accomodate to gender stereotypes, especially Shinji who isn't your typical manly protagonist you would normally find in other mecha anime (something that gets him mocked and criticized by people like Asuka and Misato). Besides, there's also the fact Shinji totally fell for a guy, the attraction he felt for Kaworu was stronger than the one he probably felt for the girls. I find it interesting that Evangelion has many aspects to explore and analyze. Even to this day people are still discussing and finding new things that had been overlooked all these years since the series first aired.

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 23:34:27 No.6137

>>6132
I haven't watched it. I'll watch it soon and report back.
I think more than sexual confusion is the desire for some larger than life individual to "swoop" you up and validate your existence. Growing up gay, my biggest frustration wasn't sex, but the capacity to desire freely. Kaworu is someone who is able to desire and love freely, unhindered by internalized homophobia and confusion. It also plays into one of the overarching themes about validation and lacanian self-alienation (eg the characters projecting better versions of themselves and constantly failing to fulfill these projected ideations). Kaworu is the ideal self of Shinji and becomes the object of desire of Shinji. And Kaworu accepts and validates Shinji's existence as is. He's the realization of seeking validation outside oneself.

As a gay teenager, coming to terms with being gay is extremely self-alienating. You're basically forced to identify with the foreign concept of being gay unto yourself, which causes neurosis, but Kaworu represents the overcoming of that neurosis too.

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Anonymous 2021-02-22 (Mon) 23:49:46 No.6142

>>6137
Yeah watch it you will love it

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Anonymous 2021-02-23 (Tue) 04:31:16 No.6149

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>>6105
Heh. Rey Ayanami.

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Anonymous 2021-02-23 (Tue) 04:37:12 No.6150

Anyone have a link to a good torrent of this series?

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Anonymous 2021-02-23 (Tue) 05:31:04 No.6153

>>6132
>requires lgbtq perspective
Bruh I'm straight and that shit GAVE me perspective.

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Anonymous 2021-02-24 (Wed) 01:09:35 No.6166

Will you all are already here I'm gonna ask you another question
What is the right way to watch Evangelion?

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Anonymous 2021-02-24 (Wed) 04:18:55 No.6175

>>6166
what the fuck kind of question is that? just watch it

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Anonymous 2021-02-24 (Wed) 13:57:51 No.6183

>>6175
There are 9 movies

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Anonymous 2021-02-24 (Wed) 16:39:18 No.6185

>>6166
I kind of feel bad for burgernons who may never be able to appreciate subway scenes. There's this distinct ambience that only ricecels can understand about riding subway back home from work or school

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Anonymous 2021-02-24 (Wed) 19:28:54 No.6186

>>6185
There's a distinct ambience that only comes from the brain damage that comes from breathing poisonous subway air.

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Anonymous 2021-02-24 (Wed) 19:31:25 No.6187

>>6186
Why should subway air be poisonous?

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Anonymous 2021-02-25 (Thu) 00:25:48 No.6190

>>6187
Why should it or why is it?

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Anonymous 2021-02-25 (Thu) 00:35:37 No.6191

>>6190
why is it

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Anonymous 2021-02-25 (Thu) 00:39:18 No.6192

>>6191
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/feb/10/subway-air-pollution-new-york-washington-dc

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Anonymous 2021-02-25 (Thu) 01:25:11 No.6200

>>6192
thx intersting stuff

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Anonymous 2021-02-25 (Thu) 04:18:48 No.6210

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>>6166
To put it simply, there's no "right" way. Wanna binge? Binge. Wanna watch one episode a day? Do that.
I can't pass judgement on the quality of specific subs or dubs tho.
That said, some episode may be quite good in terms of pace and action, while there are at least a couple of filler episodes, even though in reality there's always some development either in terms of characters or the background of the whole story. If anything, the first half of the series tend to offer more fast paced action when it comes to fights, while the second half has literal trips. Also, don't freak out if a lot of elements in the story don't get to a solution: this franchise is notorious for red herrings.
Watch the entire series, twentysix episodes, including the last two episodes, which are the trip of trips, then turn to the films, Death/Rebirth and End of Evangelion. The first is a quick retelling of the whole story plus the first part of the finale, but this time in a real world, action perspective. The second is the whole action finale.
Then, if you liked it or at least you had not actively disliked it, you can move to the more recent Rebuild films.

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Anonymous 2021-02-25 (Thu) 14:03:03 No.6218

I've only ever watched Evangelion and the related films. No other anime resonates with me like Evangelion did, it's just pointless to watch another one for me.

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Anonymous 2021-02-25 (Thu) 14:37:18 No.6219

>>6218
There are alot of great anime out there but nothing gets close to NGE
I love gibli movies but even the best are only second place

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Anonymous 2021-02-25 (Thu) 18:14:03 No.6232

>>6219
Paprika and Perfect Blue get close to EoE's style and are enjoyable, but I enjoyed the introspection and depressive mood of the series and film which I've never seen anything reproduce at all.

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Anonymous 2021-02-26 (Fri) 21:55:05 No.6240

>>6232
Its kinda ironic NGE was made as a reaction to the great stagnation that started in Japan
Now after 40 years of stagnation it isnt even possible to produce smth like this again

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Anonymous 2021-02-26 (Fri) 22:01:42 No.6241

>>6218
Have you seen GITS? the 90s movie and SAC series?

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Anonymous 2021-02-27 (Sat) 18:30:02 No.6246

>>6241
I have only seen the movie and while I liked it, it wasn't Evangelion tier.
>>6240
Very true. Anno's mental state declining as the series went on certainly contributed to the atmosphere of the show as well. It was lightning in a bottle, really. That just makes it all the more special.

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Anonymous 2021-02-27 (Sat) 18:51:42 No.6247

>>6246
>it wasn't Evangelion tier.
God Tier

Top Tier

Bottom Tier

Evangelion Tier

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Anonymous 2021-02-27 (Sat) 19:14:23 No.6248

>>6247
Did you wait for 46 replies so you could say you don't like NGE?

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Anonymous 2021-02-27 (Sat) 20:44:51 No.6249

>>6247
Eh. That's your opinion, it's not my problem. Also like >>6248 said, why wait for 45 replies before saying this? This is an Evangelion thread lmao

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Anonymous 2021-02-28 (Sun) 03:52:43 No.6250

>>6249
It's the obligatory "Evangelion is shit" post

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Anonymous 2021-02-28 (Sun) 03:58:52 No.6251

>>6250
it's tru tho

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Anonymous 2021-02-28 (Sun) 17:56:40 No.6257

>>6251
>it's tru tho
Ok, and?

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Anonymous 2021-03-07 (Sun) 18:54:34 No.6328

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3+1 airs today/tomorrow. They just premiered footage of the opening credits, of which you can watch here: https://streamable.com/63pd70

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Anonymous 2021-03-07 (Sun) 18:58:36 No.6329

>>6328
Full subbed preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJKUn-5KUYE

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Anonymous 2021-03-08 (Mon) 00:32:37 No.6331

1. It's a tie between Rei and Misato.
2. Will Shinji ever be happy?

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Anonymous 2021-03-08 (Mon) 11:53:05 No.6342

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>>6328
>>6329
fuck I haven't watched the Rebuild movies

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Anonymous 2021-03-08 (Mon) 14:39:34 No.6346

>>6329
>already DMCA'd
bah, it's on nyaa; dl it there

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Anonymous 2021-03-10 (Wed) 15:28:17 No.6363

>>6346
Is the entire thing there?

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Anonymous 2021-03-10 (Wed) 16:44:56 No.6364

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Gunbuster was better

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Anonymous 2021-03-10 (Wed) 18:43:03 No.6365

>>6363
https://nyaa.si/view/1354280
>>6364
Yes

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Anonymous 2021-03-12 (Fri) 12:47:12 No.6383

>>6365
Thanks anon

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Anonymous 2021-03-12 (Fri) 22:31:17 No.6384

>>6383
You're welcome

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Anonymous 2021-03-15 (Mon) 12:27:24 No.6433

Any news about the new movie?
Is it any good?

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Anonymous 2021-03-15 (Mon) 12:28:16 No.6434

>>6433
Was that the last movie? I haven't watched any of them

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Anonymous 2021-03-15 (Mon) 12:29:36 No.6435

>>6434
Its the last one yes
I watched the other ones and they were ok but not great

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Anonymous 2021-03-17 (Wed) 15:05:55 No.6471

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>>6435
until anno dies, then they'll make more.

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Anonymous 2021-03-17 (Wed) 16:50:51 No.6472

>>6471
I recently thought a bit about the movies and I think they werent necessary I kinda understand why they made End of Evangelion (even though I like the original ending more) but everything after that was just milking the franchise bc they are unable to create smth as great again

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Anonymous 2021-03-17 (Wed) 18:39:03 No.6477

>>6472
>even though I like the original ending more
why is that?

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Anonymous 2021-03-17 (Wed) 19:23:34 No.6482

>>6477
Spoilers obv.
Shinji realizing his own flaws and commiting to overcoming them and then the hole cast coming together to gratulate hime for this just works for me it has some lightheatness to it like all of what happened was just part of his personal journey to overcoming his flaws and becoming a better man it also makes clear that between all the giant robots monsters and christian metaphors Evangelion was in its core about trauma
In comparison the ending of end of evangelion turns this around shinji isnt able to overcome himself Misato is dead he is choking Asuka who just pitys him
I cant prove that but for me this ending represents the personal failure Hideako who after all just couldnt do it you couldnt overcome himself
But I love the Asuka fight scene but the progress that is made there is also a bit lost when in the end she just lays there with shinji

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Anonymous 2021-03-17 (Wed) 19:48:09 No.6484

>>6482
I loved both for the same reasons. The incapacity to ever fully be trauma-less. Shinji chooses to not be part of the human instrumentality project because existing is better than not. He's fine with having all that pain as long as we get to exist. Then he wakes up and the first thing he does is try to choke Asuka lol. Pain and trauma are nasty as fuck, but the alternative is to be One. The contrast with Asuka not even struggling because he understood Shinji and saw him as pathetic instead of trying to win his approval all the time. It's both sides of the coin, our trauma, and other's trauma as we experience it.

In general I liked the idea that we are separate, and alienated from each other, but to become One was untenable too. We will always try to become One, and our failure to do so will cause trauma. So, trauma is the contradiction of individuals and the One.

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Anonymous 2021-03-17 (Wed) 22:03:43 No.6488

>>6484
I agrre there is some worth to the alternative ending
Creating a direct opposite ending is still a bit weird to me

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Anonymous 2021-03-17 (Wed) 23:17:26 No.6489

>>6482
It could be my memory failing but wasn't final episode of NGE supposed to be happening inside Shinji's head as Third impact was happening in the movie? I thought they were intertwined not meant to be alternative. I thought Shinji's conclusion was that he'd rather live as a painful individual then sedated blob of mass while Asuka abhorred Shinji from her core.

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Anonymous 2021-04-10 (Sat) 17:45:43 No.6848

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>>6102
I might be getting old, but I see myself gravitating more and more towards Best Brows.

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Anonymous 2021-04-10 (Sat) 23:15:10 No.6854

>>6848
Based. Best girl from the start

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Anonymous 2021-04-12 (Mon) 17:04:53 No.6868

>>6848
Im probably still to young to apprerciate her

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Anonymous 2021-06-26 (Sat) 12:44:24 No.8479

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i am assuming this is a neon genesis evangelion meme because its incomprehensible

somebody please explain it

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Anonymous 2021-06-27 (Sun) 06:49:14 No.8483

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Everything you need to know about NGE is in this analysis

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Anonymous 2021-06-28 (Mon) 18:10:11 No.8490

>>8483
I have a lot more respect for Eva now

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Anonymous 2021-06-28 (Mon) 21:34:38 No.8493

>>8483
Hmmm,
If Anno hates his fans what would Anno think of the people who think that Eva is overrated garbage, though?

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Anonymous 2021-06-28 (Mon) 22:01:59 No.8494

>>8493
Maybe he just ignores them

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Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 05:16:47 No.8498

Why is there always at least one massive Evangelion thread on /a/ with the same debates and posts as always? I just remembered that.

>>8479
Well, I find that ironic cat meme to be more incomprehensible than Eva, if I'm being honest.
I might be remembering things wrong, it's been years since I watched it. At the end of the original series (in the finale movie), during the Third Impact, all of humanity turns into a liquid that's called "LCL", a state in which they're supposed to be happy because people's insecurities are eradicated since everyone complements each other as they have now become one. Because of how it played out, all the people that turned into LCL have the choice to regain their human/physical body at the cost of having flaws and potentially hurting each other as separate entities again.

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Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 07:55:54 No.8500

>>8493
He wants them to think that precisely. There is nothing more pleasing for him, than to see some weebs discussing and raging over this show

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Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 09:34:14 No.8501

Whats the meaning of Komm Süßer Tod?

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Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 12:51:23 No.8503

>>8501
"i want die"

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Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 16:21:08 No.8504

>>8500
Then what does he think about the people who enjoy seeing fans rage over it?

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Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 21:46:25 No.8512

>>8504
I assume he is indifferent to it, as he essentially is that person too. He only wants to stick it to otakus

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Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 21:56:16 No.8513

>>6328
???
Is this just some kind of IP cash grab like star wars

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Anonymous 2021-06-29 (Tue) 22:13:23 No.8514

>>8513
tbh i dont quite understand what anno is doing with NGE there are like 20 different endings now
Does he need to money
Does he want to make everyone happy

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Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 02:53:44 No.8515

>>8513
100% yes.

>>8514
It's called greed.

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Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 04:22:39 No.8517

>>8498
>that spoiler
bruh who the fuck made this show
holy shit what the hell does it all mean

i kinda get it why people talk about it still now

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Anonymous 2021-06-30 (Wed) 05:09:08 No.8519

>>8517
IIRC

AT fields are a metaphor for the divisions that people put between themselves and others for various reasons, for good or ill. They're what enable humans to maintain their individuality. The instrumentality project dissolves the human AT fields, in which all humanity merges into one collective consciousness. By eliminating the AT field and merging humanity, the pain created by division is supposedly eliminated as humanity achieves perfect understanding of its constituent parts.

Shinji balks at this in part because he's mortified by the ordeal of being known.

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Anonymous 2021-07-01 (Thu) 09:24:54 No.8538

>>8517
If you want reasons, read this >>8483

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Anonymous 2021-07-01 (Thu) 14:41:36 No.8543

>>8483
That fucking shithead creep who jacks it to a unconcious girl is gay?
I have seen this show talked about everywhere but I never knew that happened in the show

Anyways I googled the show and can't really find much of the "hate" the creator has for the fans and otaku but that might becase western news sources might not cover it as much

Whatever. I'm not really into the otaku shit and I don't really understand the point of making something you hate or watching something that you know is made by somebody who hates you but whatever

This fucking anime is too good damn layered with metaphors and deep irl lore too it seems. Not my tempo.

>>8519
I am a narcissist. I would love to be known over and over and over again.
I want everybody to read my mind and fully become me and I want to be inside everyone.
I don't know any other sexual innuendoes to make of this.

>he ordeal of being known
Seriously tho, What does this phrase mean exactly
Like does it mean that everybody will know your entire lifes actions, dreams, fears?

Is this shinji character not accepting of who he is and what he has done

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Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 07:44:48 No.8556

>>8543
>That fucking shithead creep who jacks it to a unconcious girl is gay?
It's very heavily implied, not explicitly stated but it's obvious that Shinji had feelings for Kaworu (at least in the original series), but still there are fans who completely deny it.
As for the masturbation scene, well, the cast is full of fucked up individuals.

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Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 17:14:53 No.8567

>>8543
Shinji's fucked up and can't deal with rejection. For him every opportunity to connect with someone is a new opportunity for someone to find out how rotten he is, and subsequently abandon him once they've gotten their use out of him.

Shinji being gay is debatable, but his time with Kaworu is some of the only time that he's actually happy, in part because Kaworu accepts Shinji unconditionally. Which of course makes it all the more traumatic for Shinji when he has to murder him.

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Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 13:00:27 No.8571

>>8567
HE FUCKING KILLS HIM?
i hate shinji

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Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 13:02:25 No.8573

>>8571
do you know NGE only from the memes?

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Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 13:06:37 No.8574

>>8567
The true crux here is that Shinji is not the rotten one. Everyone else is and they can't connect to each other because of it. The idea of Shinji being a porcupine was projection.

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Anonymous 2021-07-03 (Sat) 13:21:32 No.8575

>>8573
I don't know NGE at all
Everything I have known about it so far has been against my will

I like gag anime like Dr.Slump and Dragon Ball
Not mecha stuff

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Anonymous 2021-07-04 (Sun) 05:13:20 No.8582

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Anonymous 2021-07-04 (Sun) 06:21:38 No.8583

>>8571
Bro, you're literally skipping the whole series and going straight to the ending spoilers. You lack all of the context.
Go and watch it, it's only 25 episodes. It starts slow and seems like any other mecha series until Asuka joins the cast (iirc). Then it becomes a wild ride.

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Anonymous 2021-07-04 (Sun) 12:19:39 No.8592

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>>8582
You have been exposed twitter migrant

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Anonymous 2021-07-04 (Sun) 20:09:15 No.8600

>>8592
You just exposed yourself as a soyjak.party migrant.

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Anonymous 2021-07-05 (Mon) 04:52:20 No.8615

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dont do it

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Anonymous 2021-07-05 (Mon) 05:37:40 No.8617

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>>8615

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Anonymous 2021-07-07 (Wed) 02:54:14 No.8642

>>8574
Generally I'd agree, yeah, but it's a projection that Shinji's internalized. That's one of the reasons I really like ReTake, because Shinji has his epiphany and comes around to the idea that, hey, maybe he isn't the fucked up one here.

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Anonymous 2021-07-07 (Wed) 04:21:26 No.8644

>>8642
>>8642
>but it's a projection that Shinji's internalized.
Exactly.

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Anonymous 2021-07-08 (Thu) 05:13:41 No.8669

>>8592
Critical Support to ShroomChads to kill the soyjaks forever

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2021-07-13 (Tue) 04:13:47 No.8729

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This is (You)

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Anonymous 2021-07-15 (Thu) 07:26:37 No.8749

>>6123
>>6124
>Cus that's exactly what every confused gay teen going through puberty wants
<a boyfriend
Except that's not what Kaworu is or is meant to represent originally, it arrived because of Japan's obsession with Yaoi. Even Anno himself mentioned in an interview that he approved the Mangaka's Fudaka shit because he didn't know how else to flesh out his plot-device of a character.

Shinji isn't supposed to be gay or bi or any sexuality, because that's not the point at all. He's looking for love while simultaneously believing that he is not loved, because he doesn't think himself worthy of love and therefore affection - this is worsened by Misato struggling with her own grief, Rei being mindwiped and placed in her new body, Asuka going off the rails and all his friends being sent the fuck away.

And so at his lowest point, Shinji meets Kaworu, who with a constant smile and persistence continues to interact with him, his Angelic nature meaning that he disrupts human social customs because he is unaware of them. Then it turns out he is Tabris and Shinji is forced to fight him, and Shinji states
<"You betrayed me, like my FATHER"
Unless we're reading Adam Kadomon fanfiction, Shinji wasn't sexually involved or in any way attracted to Gendo and the relationship between father and son differs to that between lovers, which would imply that Kaworu had become a support for Shinji, with something as vulgar as sexual attraction being irrelevant.

The inclusion of "sex" into the manga cheapened this, as did Kaworu's wanton killing of a kitten with the typical nihilist "it'll die anyway" garbage. It's not the gayness that is annoying, but how it translates the desperation of Shinji into a discount homolust tease doujin. While the anime doesn't fuck this up, the manga goes full retard with it, and subsequently we've had a consistent rise in KawoShin shipping garbage and associated cancer. Not that unironic Asuka-Rei fags are much better, but given Kaworu's character being pivoted on Shinji (from the audience's point of view), it devalue's his character into "muh gay bishounen uwu" tosh rather than being the rather beautiful symbolism he was.

TL;DR: It ain't about yaoi-shit or romantic crap but about desperation and it's search for a supporting love.

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Anonymous 2021-07-15 (Thu) 07:28:07 No.8750

>>6185
Anyone living in a burger city like Chicago or Boston that has to commute can understand this, as do Russians and Europe.

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Anonymous 2021-07-15 (Thu) 07:31:21 No.8751

>>6342
About 4 months late but don't watch that shit, it's trash.
>>8729
>soyjacks all around
How unoriginal
>>8575
The hell are you doing here then? Also goddamn get some better taste.

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Anonymous 2021-07-15 (Thu) 07:32:09 No.8752

>>8501
Come Sweet Death is the meaning. I think that's where the old 4chan meme came from.

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Anonymous 2021-07-15 (Thu) 07:32:55 No.8753

>>8483
>this rookieshit
This is a decent post but it barely scrapes the surface of the complex embroilment of Anno's insanity.

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Anonymous 2021-07-15 (Thu) 07:36:01 No.8755

>>6848
>Cold Clinical woman who has little moral or ethical qualms
>hates her mother but emulates her anyway
>projects her hatred for Gendo using her for sex onto Rei, further stunting the latter's social growth and making her subconsciously miserable
<'best girl'
I can understand and sympathize with her on a human level, but she's a few strings short of a war criminal, She'd probably kill you in your sleep with an undetectable poison she'd concoct out of sheer boredom.

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Anonymous 2021-07-15 (Thu) 07:54:16 No.8757

>>8751
>About 4 months late but don't watch that shit, it's trash.
If it's fun or helps me understand fan reactions better, I will watch them. Not like I'll take them as canon over the original series.
>The hell are you doing here then? Also goddamn get some better taste.
stfu f/a/ggot

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Anonymous 2021-07-15 (Thu) 08:06:59 No.8759

>>8757
If you absolutely have to watch it, then I suggest you drink while doing so. After 2.0 I couldn't get through the last 2 films sober, because every moment of stupidity and drama made me want to shake Anno by his lapels and ask him to stop.

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Anonymous 2021-07-15 (Thu) 08:12:35 No.8762

>>8759
>because every moment of stupidity and drama made me want to shake Anno by his lapels and ask him to stop.
I know absolutely nothing about the films except for a couple of details and the existence of Mari. What's so stupid about them? Please give me a quick rundown.

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Anonymous 2021-07-15 (Thu) 09:42:09 No.8767

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>>8762
Ok first two films were not as good as the original, but moslty followed the original series up until Zeruelstill tried to remain consistent with the themes, and did have their own good ideas, however now Angels are much easier to beat for no reason. There is also some hints about it being a continuation from EoE where everything starts over anew but with traces of the previous series (the Ocean is LCL for example). On top of that when facing Zeruel, Shinji is conscious and he causes 3rd impact by trying to pull Rei out, only to be stopped by Kaworu with yet another Spear and another Evangelion from the moon.
The scene where Shinji fights Zeruel for Rei is pretty good, btw.
However now we get to the real shit show of 3.0 and frankly I'd have an easier time listing what is not wrong with it, among which is the Kaworu and Shinji playing on the piano scene.
I suggest enjoying these video reviews, as they put things into words better than I can manage at 4AM.
DemolitionD series on Rebuilds
Part 1: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2dwnvb
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEn6-vLYvFQ
Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sATCoI7Ozk4
Pleeb and Weeb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCtEVnhf0z8

As for 3.0+1.0, …I don't even know where to begin to describe the awfulness except to say that it's not even Evangelion at this point anymore. Oh I guess Mari - she's a time traveling 'friend' or sister of Yui Ikari and she basically becomes Shinji's girl at the end, because it was in fact her grand plan all along to bring Shinji happiness - yes the entire mess where she barely interacted with anyone and barely did anything outside of jobbing in her Eva, was part of a grand attempt to fix everything in some strange timeloop thing. It was essentially nonsense, and Anno tried to pretend that "The Curse of Evangelion" was an analogy for Evangelion plaguing everything he did or was, forcing him to repeatedly work on it to appease fans… and that 4.0 was him breaking away and being free… which was all nonsense of course.

Oh and the artstyle and animation is worse with it's reliance on CGI, pic 2 related.

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Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 04:04:03 No.9548

Looks like 3.0 + 1.0 is up on Nyaa!!

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Anonymous 2021-08-16 (Mon) 08:34:25 No.9551

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Anonymous 2021-08-17 (Tue) 04:46:52 No.9552

>>8767
>I don't even know where to begin to describe the awfulness
Completely shit take, I just watched it and I liked it a lot.

I would rather have had the whole thing be done in traditional cell medium but since the reality is that can't be done I at least liked the fact that there were scenes that were completely 2d. And even the mix of different styles (2d, 3d, completely trippy shit at the end, and even how there *real life* shots are interspersed that reference the ending was kind of cool.

I thought the plot was enjoyable, I could follow it better than the other eva movies actually.

The deep dive into each character's thoughts at the end was a nice wrap up of unanswered questions for me.

There is some really good character progression.

Idk, obviously it's not the original show, it was probably never meant to be, but it's a great finale to an amazing series, I think the hate it gets is completely unwarranted, or maybe it is from some purist perspective but I really enjoyed the film and I think people should just go and watch it.

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Anonymous 2021-08-19 (Thu) 15:27:19 No.9558

>bumping this god awful thread instead of the original

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Anonymous 2021-08-19 (Thu) 23:02:31 No.9559

>>9552
>shit take
Wrong.
>rather have had the whole thing be done in traditional cell medium
SO you admit it's worse than the budget original series?
>but since the reality is that can't be done
Why not? There are plenty of animators and they already work for shit-wages anyway. Anno took as much time as he wanted making this sequel and still managed to fail to use good 2D stuff. The CG was passable but clashes with the 2D background and is cluttered as fuck.
> there *real life* shots
That's nothing new, Anno did all of that in the original series' final episodes during Shinji's breakdown. He ripped off his own ending.
>the plot was enjoyable, I could follow it better than the other eva movies actually.
Better than the first two? Not in my opinion - those stories followed the original NGE plot and somewhat made sense, this just feels like a mecha fantasy a la Darling in the Franxx. Being better than 3.0 is not a major achievement.
>deep dive into each character's thoughts at the end
Again, same as the original, but worse.
>good character progression
hahaha what!? Where? None of the characters are even their original selves except for the adults and pink sloot. Rei wants to be a farmer and falls apart, Asuka remains an angry midget with mood swings, Shinji repeats his mood swings just like in the past 2 movies, Misato apparently abandoned her own child and be angry all the time, Ritsuko is a paper-cut half-heartedly pandering to the lesbian fans because "muh yuri fanfiction". It's all so tiresome. To someone approaching Evangelion for the first time or having watched the originals a while ago, this may not be apparent, but it is to me, which is why I loathe it.

Sure this is passable entertainment but frankly, if I wanted that, I wouldn't be watching Evangelion for that.
>a great finale to an amazing series
Not to me
>purist
Ok, lets go with an analogy, Godfather and Godfather II are some of the most well known films about the Mafia and are acclaimed as cinematographic masterpieces, yet the third film is hated. The Third film isn't all that bad, but a lot of the things it introduces and does makes it's good content feel inane and out of place, and feels like a low effort imitation of the original. If the rebuilds were stand-alone films unrelated to NGE completely then there wouldn't be a problem, and I dare say people wouldn't dunk on it, but it's precisely because it banks on the success of the original series and its own hype, that makes it so egregious to me.

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Anonymous 2021-08-20 (Fri) 22:35:13 No.9561

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