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 No.6131[View All]

Is Steven Universe liberal? I think it is because it propagates the notion that you can solve issues in society by talk no jutsu.
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 No.6337

>>7665
>Yeah no. Fucking Ren and Stimpy, a literal shitpost of a series was better than this lazy noodly garbage, which despite modern computer technology negating the issues of early animation, can't be bothered to fucking do proper layering or have consistent design. If you think Steven Retardverse or Teen Titans Go, or Thundercats Roar or Cadance is better than fucking Animaniacs or Darkwing Duck or Gargoyles or Real Ghostbusters, then you have no taste or understanding of animation and artstyle whatsoever.

both are equally as shit. One is grotesque and uninteresting, the other is too simple and too flashy.

>Nobody says you can't have goofy fucking designs or mature plot in your kids cartoons, but the past decade of media is made up of 90% garbage that has lax animation, trash story lines and shitty mass-produced artstyle. This compares poorly to the large amounts of good shows from the past which - even despite many being toy commercial cartoons - told good stories. In 10 years no-one is going to remember Adventure Time except with a "hey that weird show existed" but everyone remembers cartoons of the 90s, 80s and 2000s, they are iconic and people talk about them today on and on.

Most shows of that era were made to sell toys/merchandise or other apparel. The 90s had good shows, don't get me wrong, but they still had simple art styles, examples being: Cat-dog, Rugrats, powerpuff girls, etc.

Also it's funny that most prolific shows with a 'CalArts' style weren't even made by CalArts graduates. Ben Bocquelet, Rebecca Sugar, Chris Savino and Ian Jones Quarterly for example.

Plus the "muh calarts" style shit is still fucking wrong in most cases. The main gripe is the character design, which although a good criticism, isn't a good basis for saying that modern shows are bad. Shows like OK KO, Regular Show and especially Gumball have vastly different art styles and animation styles, with Gumball using various different styles and mediums of animation.

>But when your entire show is projecting gender-fluid bullshit constantly and with intention of "educating children about le sexuality" then your show is shitlib rubbish.

I'd take that shit over art which looks like monkeys flinging shit over the screen such as in Ren and Stimpy you niggerfaggot.
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 No.6338

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>>7668
>One is grotesque and uninteresting
Grotesque? Yes, Uninteresting is a matter of opinion since some people find it funny or horrifying and thus entertaining. It is a kids cartoon after-all. Being harmlessly offensive is far better than harmfully PC.
>Most shows of that era were made to sell toys/merchandise or other apparel
1) I mentioned that from the start
2) That's only true of the 80s. Federal legislature in the late 80s concerning advertising in kids content forced 90s and 2000s cartoons to stop using Pester Power as a selling method.
3) Doesn't fucking matter, Mighty Max was BASED on a toyline yet it was fucking awesome.
>Cat-dog, Rugrats, powerpuff girls
And then we had better animated and non-simplistic stuff like Gargoyles and Godzilla the Animated series and Extreme Ghostbusters.
> it's funny that most prolific shows with a 'CalArts' style weren't even made by CalArts graduates
TO use the phrase of another ex-cal Arts student, popular artists influence other artists. With things like Fairly Odd Parents, the designs were weird but detailed and with a unique style, but those shows died out and in came deviant-art caricatures of low-end cartoons of the 2000s like Teenage Robot and Mighty B.
>OK KO
OK KO and Gumball use the fluidity of their shows being random as fuck to fully let loose. However things like Cadance and Steven Uni don't do. They're stuck in their rut of PC-shit or brainless randomness, where loud noise and motion = 'humor'.
Regular Show actually is more of a Rick and Morty type show and also revels in randomness and a cheap young adult-humor genre. This works as a lowbrow tv show for casul viewing (not kids), apply it anywhere else (like in Star Trek) and it becomes shit.
> art which looks like monkeys flinging shit over the screen such as in Ren and Stimpy
The niggerfaggot is you if you're saying that. Ren and Stimpy, as I said, were literal shitposts of their time. They still outdo Steven Universe despite being grotesque, because they're unique and insane and not plain and stupid.
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 No.6339

>>7670
>Uninteresting is a matter of opinion since some people find it funny or horrifying and thus entertaining.
In the same way that "some people" find fart jokes funny.

>3) Doesn't fucking matter, Mighty Max was BASED on a toyline yet it was fucking awesome.

outliers exist, most shows were still awful. Kind of like these days, no?

>And then we had better animated and non-simplistic stuff like Gargoyles and Godzilla the Animated series and Extreme Ghostbusters.

And we also had shows like Chowder and Avatar LA. Outliers exist, trend is still maintained.

>OK KO and Gumball use the fluidity of their shows being random as fuck to fully let loose. However things like Cadance and Steven Uni don't do. They're stuck in their rut of PC-shit or brainless randomness, where loud noise and motion = 'humor'.

I don't like Steven Uni either, trust me. But to say that its animation couldn't be beautiful at times is wrong (this was when actual good animators were brought on the shows, don't remember the episode when). The problems with steven universe was that the animation process was disorganized and messy. OK KO wasn't random, especially in the last season. It still had good animation still.

>Regular Show actually is more of a Rick and Morty type show and also revels in randomness and a cheap young adult-humor genre. This works as a lowbrow tv show for casul viewing (not kids), apply it anywhere else (like in Star Trek) and it becomes shit.

Regular show didn't work as a show because of the demographic in mind, true. But other than i don't find any problems with it.

>apply it anywhere else (like in Star Trek)

in the same way that you can't "apply" the humor of powerpuff girls to some random show made for marketing. This is a non-argument.

>The niggerfaggot is you if you're saying that. Ren and Stimpy, as I said, were literal shitposts of their time. They still outdo Steven Universe despite being grotesque, because they're unique and insane and not plain and stupid.

Shitposts which were viewed by kids. It was a grotesque shitshow which used pretty apparent sex & bodily humor while also being "random". It is practically the same thing as the shows you hate. At least steven universe tried to make a compelling story despite falling flat on its head, ren & stimpy was just cheap adult humor in the same vain as modern family guy.
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 No.6340

>>7673 (me)
Also, I just want to say this. Although I understand your point that most shows these days are shit or have a similar style, for the most part i prefer it over styles such as that of Ren & stimpy and Rocko's modern life. Even then I believe there should be variety. But this isn't a problem with these cartoonists or even these shows, it's a facet of the animation industry. It was economical before to make shows of the same ilk as your favorite nostalgia-driven liberalism, now it isn't.
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 No.6341

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>>7673
>find fart jokes funny.
And? It's a kid show, SNL which is supposed to be for adults hasn't been any better for years. Again, like I said, it's a shitpost of a cartoon.
>outliers exist, most shows were still awful
Wrong. Most shows were awesome. Sometimes stupid, sometimes smart, but awesome nontheless.
> we also had shows like Chowder and Avatar LA
Both are late 2000s cartoons, not 2010s. Shows like Clone Wars and Transformers Prime existed after and THEY are outliers.
>OK KO wasn't random, especially in the last season
I meant it style of story. It embraced the absurdism of the designs and essentially pulled a new looney toons in that regard. They used the animation to their advantage.
>other than i don't find any problems with it
Neither do I.
>the humor of powerpuff girls to some random show made for marketing
That is an utter nonsequitur. My point is that you can't combine such a cartoon style and then aim it at a demographic it shouldn't be aimed for.
>It is practically the same thing as the shows you hate
Nope, pic related. The background, details and animation were detailed and complex, not flat same-face with a "stretch mouth circle into wider circle" like today. The devil is in the details.
>At least steven universe tried to make a compelling story
Nope, it didn't try at all. It went through the motions of it (vaguely) but there was no real over-arching story, and instead focus episodically on one or another numbnut asshole to defeat who has wrong-think. This has already been addressed in multiple posts (and youtube reviews) prior so I won't go on this.
>same vain as modern family guy
Again no. Modern Family Guy is superficially no different to its original version, but the details show otherwise.
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 No.6342

>>13254
Based but I already posted that moron
>was economical before to make shows of the same ilk as your favorite nostalgia-driven liberalism, now it isn't.
LOL wut, the budgets for these toon-boom messes is higher than any of the old toons and the nostalgia for the old toons is a big money factor. Also stop with this "it wuz liberal then too" because that's not the same. There is no nostalgia involved. Unless you're referring to something like G.I. Joe which is just unfocused military hero-porn.
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 No.6343

>>7679
Not that Anon, but didn't the Ren and Stimpy guy whip the animators because he was autistic about never recycling faces and got canned for it?
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 No.6344

>>7665
apparently gender identity was cooked up by a pedo, it doesn't exist
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 No.6345

>>7704
I don't recall that being the reason he was canned. I certainly don't remember it coming up. That was probably something 4/co/ cooked up.
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 No.6346

>>7681
>LOL wut, the budgets for these toon-boom messes is higher than any of the old toons and the nostalgia for the old toons is a big money
Outsourcing to South Korea and usage of software like Flash has been incredibly economical.
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 No.6347

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>>7668
>Ian Jones Quarterly
WTF happened to this guy? His old webcomic, though very angular and obviously beginner work, had a good style (AND WAS ACTUALLY WELL WRITTEN). Even a quick dig through the earlier stuff on his blog & Tumblr show he was improving.
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 No.6348

>>7704
>didn't the Ren and Stimpy guy whip the animators because he was autistic about never recycling faces and got canned for it?
&ltgenius=/=sanity
Yes, and?
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 No.6349

>>7724
Also, as an off-topic question, but wasn't John K also sacked for pedophilia?
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 No.6350

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>>7725
There are a lot of things said about John K., and a lot of them are probably true, but I can't say as that I particularly care.
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 No.6351

>>7717
>has been incredibly economical.
Yep, which means they pocket the money. It's a money-laundering scheme essentially.

>>7725

No, it was long after he was fired. 2 women acused him of essentially coming on to them when there were 15-14. He apologized and blamed his mental issues.
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 No.6352

>>7728
>He apologized and blamed his mental issues.
Based and blaming-mental-health-for-hitting-on-kids-pilled
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 No.6353

>>7704
It was more that he kept missing deadlines (mostly because of his "never draw the same face twice" policy") and because he kept pushing the envelope too far for the censors to accommodate.
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 No.6354

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I have a few friends that get furious with me when I point out the flaws of this series. Like for instance when I talk about Steven just forgived the Diamonds after all the tyrannical shit they did and how it was basically >pic related.

They're also the same people who think conservatives/nazis should be jailed for having racist opinions.
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 No.6355

>>7824
See >>4033 and the following arguments
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 No.6356

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Don't care about the show but I wanna bang them space rocks, specially Garnet and Whide Diamond.
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 No.6357

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>>8680
>TFW the porn of the show is 100x better drawn (and animated sometimes) than the actual show
Media related
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 No.6358

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How 4chan trolled Steven Universe Fans on tumblr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_WH43BGdL0
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 No.6359

>>7824
>They're also the same people who think conservatives/nazis should be jailed for having racist opinions.
They should be jailed if they commit genocide which is what the Diamonds did.
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 No.6360

>>8755
The point is that the same liberals who defend Diamonds being genocidal are people who want to jail people for opinions.
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 No.6361

>>8767
the dissonance is stronk
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 No.6362

>>8799
I don't think there's dissonance, with the correct level of insanity.

Feelz>reelz is the lens they view everything through
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 No.6363

>>8742
Damn. Tough to pick who is more pathetic, the faggots spending their time doing this or the faggots getting assmad and crying racism because someone recolored a cartoon.
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 No.6364

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>>8824
Who spent more effort?

The metric for successful vs. unsuccessful trolling is shitposts in vs. saltposts out ratio.
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 No.6365

>>8825
>>8824
Considering that edit and draw fags on /trash/ can whip up cheap shite like that in a matter of minutes, compared to the sheer rivers of crying screaming and diatribes about how its racist… 4chan definitely got the win, especially since Steven Universe was banned to the /sug/ generals on /trash/ rather than /aco/ or /co/
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 No.6366

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So funny story, the sjw fanbase of this show actually decided she was """coded""" as hipsanic/latina, not just because of their typical muh diversity shit, but due to this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd8KG5FtJ-0
so these faggots did the kind of stereotyping they claim to hate.
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 No.6367

>>8717
>Literally all disgusting faggot futa art
Kys
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 No.6368

>>11073
futashit or not, it's drawn fairly well, especially compared to the actual show.
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 No.6369

>>11073
>Not liking Futa
What are you gay?
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 No.6370

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>>11073
stay mad
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 No.6371

is gay children's cartoon liberal???
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 No.6372

>>5276
>liking Ben 10 and shitting on Steven Universe
This is some real zoomer shit
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 No.6373

>>13247
>Ben 10
&ltZoomer
LOL

>>13195

Of course
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 No.6374

>>13251
Ben Ten is early zoomer.
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 No.6375

>>13440
It aired in 2005, and the kids who watched that show were 6-10 years old, a.k.a 90s kids.
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 No.6376

>>13449
Gen z started in the mid to late 90s dude. Like I said, early zoomer.
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 No.6377

>>13449
Am 22 year old zoomer
Remember watching Avatar and Ben 10 when they first aired
Good times
I remember I thought the first episode of Ben 10 was the absolute shit
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 No.6378

>>13450
>Millennials, also known as Generation Y (or simply Gen Y), are the demographic cohort following Generation X and preceding Generation Z. Researchers and popular media use the early 1980s as starting birth years and the mid-1990s to early 2000s as ending birth years, with 1981 to 1996 a widely accepted defining range for the generation


>>13456

yeah it was great
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 No.6379

It's liberal because it's written, cared about, and watched only by pedophiles, and any adult who talks about it belongs in a prison camp.
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 No.6380

>>13462
>If you care about pedophile garbage being shown to kids and being left uncriticized you go to prison
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 No.6381

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>>7667
That's proper messed up
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 No.6382

>>6131
posting this here
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 No.6383

>>6382
Pretty good video, though there's also some dumb shit here and there
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 No.6384

can someone give me a Marxist/Maoist analysis of SU porn? asking for a friend k thanks
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 No.6385

i look up lapis lazuli porn from time to time
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 No.6386

>>6383
tell us about the dumb shit i wanna know

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