>>3797>that was all you guysMate I know I'm the most powerful poster in all incarnations of /leftypol/, but despite my best efforts off-site cliquery continues to exist. If I had my way there would be no matrix whatsoever, mods could communicate on-board like normal people. (If they really must have their private conversations, let them do so on a hidden board.)
>this was not the case before a long term smear campaign and you know it. It absolutely was. It wasn't an off-site smear campaign that made me dislike chatrooms, that's a taste i've had long before /leftypol/ in any incarnation.
>you mods see
>>3699[spoiler]except, of course, that I disapproved of your ban on bunkerchan, since my view is that your Matrix would simply be a waste of timme rather than something harmful.[/spoiler]
>mod speak for under your control It's a shame you've posted so regularly, Sage, otherwise I could dignify this with the assumption that you were malicious rather than simply naive.
Any of the off-the-shelf off-site solutions are either trivial to manipulate (strawpolls) or wind up excluding the average imageboard user, who isn't going to join the discord, the subreddit, the matrix, the official IRC, the alt.communism.leftypol usenet group and the /leftypol/ neocities webring. You trade manipulation from admins for manipulation by an unrepresentative sample of the userbase, and one which is much more likely to see the imageboard as something secondary than as the lifeblood of the entire project.
>no, come on. Go ahead and explain how someone other than d0llars (who now controls bunkerchan) ends the split, I'll wait.
>and yet, you are completely unwilling it seems to admit that maybe some neutral ground neither party controls is needed for thisNo such thing is necessary, and further: No neutral ground among the userbase is of any use because the userbase do not control the websites, and it's the websites where the bulk of the users post. You could hypothetically transplant the entire userbase of all /leftypol/ incarnations to your Matrix and it would be useless in the face of one simple fact: d0llars controls the bunkerchan servers, if he doesn't want to merge then nobody can force him to.
>To say there was originally fault on both sides and then after say, but after that, the perpetuation of the split was entirely the fault of one side, is just plain petulant.One side has undergone regime change, the other has not. The gulf between space and the former moderators was impossible to bridge after the split, with space out of the picture that should no longer be a factor - and yet it is.
>yes after you wrecked it like jesus christ.I did no such thing, but I approve it wholeheartedly: For every one poster who is oh-so-upset about culpability, two will come here because it just works. If the administration of bunkerchan are so incompetent that they can't deal with one mod going rogue then there's no hope for them against anything else. One hard drive crash and Watermelon's actions will look as insignificant as a single 500 error.