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 No.22268[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

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 No.22645

Jihad will win


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 No.22975[Reply]

So I thought here and now would be a good time to tell you I'm uploading parts of my book that I have completed. You can find them at:

http://eugeneseffortposts.royalwebhosting.net/

I have up to chapter 13 written of the third book, and the whole of the second book. Maybe you all can provide feedback (and anyone saying snark will be given the fag tag).

It gets pretty depressing but I saw Chapter 13 as one of the more uplifting, since I basically say the way out… if only humans wanted such a thing. We've always known that, but all of the build-up to that is where we would really have to go. It's a pity humans will never think like that, not now.
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 No.23043

>>23042
I'll try to answer each briefly.

>what do you think of the black national question?

Attempt to shoehorn a Germanic understanding where it doesn't belong. Go to black Americans and most consider the black nationalists to be silly hoteps who will make their situation worse. The prevalent strain of black nationalism isn't the Panthers or what these ideologues think. It's the Nation of Islam and Farrakhan, which lifts a lot of Freemason stuff but it's for black people and says that they are the real Israelites.
There isn't a burning desire for "black identity", let alone a "black nation-state" which would be enclosed and segregated. The communists promoting that were doing a lot of damage and promoting their own brand of racism. About the only desire for that from the black people was that they were pushed against so much that they believed they had no choice but to resist. The overriding aim was to simply be able to live, after being left with nothing after emancipation. If that simple thing were granted, there wouldn't be a "Negro Question". That was always an insinuation of eugenics. If you look at America of the past, ideological racism was not what the narrative theory of history insisted it "should" be. You'd probably find that this would have gone away within a couple of generations if the economic basis of the country were at all sane. When that started to happen, it was necessary to "teach the controversy" and restore segregation on explicitly eugenicist grounds. By now, black Americans have no solidarity with each other, and you can go ask them yourself or judge what you would do in their situation, instead of defaulting to pigheaded assumptions.

>What about the national question in general in regards to USA/Canada?

This ties into the above. America/ the US isn't a nation-state in the Germanic sense (which itself was an intentional parody of nationalism as a democratizing force in the late 18th century). It started as 13 colonies in British America, and they understood themselves as British during the Revolutionary War. None of that was about a "national identity". It happened because "well, we've already been at war for a year", and there were expectations that the Empire would not be centered around a racial idea in England. There were people in tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.23044

If someone says "Eugene, you're an American hypocrite" - I don't profit from any further enclosure of Indian land, and what was done was done. America has a lot of questions to ask itself if it is to be a "thing" in the future. But, those questions won't be asked. Eugenics won. This is the world eugenics creates. So, I think only about that, and I will work with anyone who will kill eugenist filth.
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 No.23045

Amazing read Eugene, after you finish your work here, I would like you to reconsider seeking a Phd or Masters at Cambridge.
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 No.23046

Also publish on demand is a thing, I would very much like to read your work in hard copy.

If you need help typesetting, which tbh fam I reckon you could do yourself; We can help.
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 No.23047

>>23046
I know how to format it to look "professional" or something close to it. Just a matter of obtaining materials to make the hard copy.
I have most of Book 3 finished but want to edit it for clarity, to make it clearer what I'm referring to. It looks like "rant at highest volume", which it will be since Books 4 and 5 tone down the "doom is nigh". It comes off as doomer because I'm writing about concepts which are basically trans-historical - that is, what it means to speak of the concept of the political and economic, which are rather grody if they are distilled to their essential characteristics, how we speak of them. I really need to make the point that you won't find answers to the political within the political itself, especially formulations of it written by aristocracy - written traditionally by religion and for the purposes religion serves. Religion itself gives some of the answers of where to look, since no religion is a "total system" in that sense, and I'm opposed to "total systems" as an explanation of anything useful for us. The only total system that is relevant for me is the world itself, and even there, the world is not a "system" in that sense.

I have a supplemental I was writing but it needs to be edited, since I want to avoid "rant mode" and clarify what I wrote in the first book about the concept of systems, and how this concept could be worked with in the future. My main goal there is to demonstrate how a systems thought could be reconstructed from simple components, rather than reliant on pedagogy to assert a fixed system in minds that aren't able to defend themselves against it. My more long-term hope would be to write something accessible to a young reader, so they can do something to guard against the poison of education and we might have far less of this toxicity. I believe this will happen without me doing anything out of necessity, but the fear is very strong now and there is something very real to fear. If there is nothing but "the system" that we're getting - if what they did to us in the 1990s is allowed to continue but worse when the brats around me are the elders - it will be terrible to live through that. That whole thing was set up so that the favored would have their private and special education and everyone else will get nothing but "retard! retard!" shouted at them from cradle to grave. Since it's Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


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Dozens dead after gunmen open fire at Moscow concert hall, building set on fire

News reports say assailants attacked venue with automatic weapons, explosives

The Federal Security Service, Russia's top security agency, said there are dozens dead or wounded in a Moscow concert hall attack, Russian state news agencies reported Friday night, after several gunmen in combat fatigues burst into the venue and fired automatic weapons at the crowd.

Russian media outlets reported that between two to five assailants were involved in the attack and also used explosives, causing a massive blaze at the Crocus City Hall on the western edge of Moscow.

The attack took place as crowds gathered for a concert by Picnic, a famed Russian rock band, at the hall, which can accommodate over 6,000 people.

Russian news reports said visitors were being evacuated, but some said an unspecified number of people could have been trapped by the blaze.

Fire engulfed a third of the venue building, and its roof is almost completely engulfed in flames, state news agency TASS reported, adding that helicopters had been called in to help.

Shortly before 11:00 p.m. local time, Russia's Interfax news agency reported firefighting crews had contained the fire.
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 No.24704

>>24699
Chechens tend to be the most determined fighters of the Russian military now, actually. After they wised up to being played by the West in the '00s, many see this proxy war as a chance for revenge.
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 No.24705

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>>24700
>Do you know more?
I'm just making assumptions based on what has been confirmed. This kind of attack is generally carried out by Islamists, and the gunmen were white, so that only leaves the Chechens. There is still a low-level IS insurgency fighting Russia in the caucuses too. Only earlier this month a few of them were killed by Russian security forces, and afterwards a Ukrainian-funded NGO were paying tribute to them on twitter.

>>24704
>Chechens tend to be the most determined fighters of the Russian military now, actually.
Thousands of Chechens went to fight for Islamists in Iraq and Syria, and they made up the largest contingent of ISIL's foreign recruits. Chechen's are broadly supportive of Putin, but it only takes a few dissenters to carry out an attack like this.
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 No.24706

>>24702
>If that's what they're doing now, then it seems more conspicuous than ever.
Yes, but it's not like other states don't know that kind of stuff anyway, the only people left guessing, is people like us.
>If it was any more clumsy they'd strike China next.
Inviting China to the party ? I don't think they're that stupid.

Remember the failed color revolution in Hong Kong a couple of years back ? They stopped that without any police-state crack-down measures. The only other explanation is that they were able to find and shut down the CIA handler network that ran the op. That probably means massive amounts of field agents going on a spy-hunt. During the Hong Kong happening, Chinese counter intelligence probably didn't actively seek out to kill CIA handlers. But deadly attacks like that recent one in Moscow, that probably means a spy-war. The "normal" spy game is to have your guys find and fool their guys, not kill anybody. The CIA probably isn't very keen on having open hunting season on their guys by Iran, Russia and China all at once.
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 No.24707

>>24704
There are Chechens on both sides.
And what Russia did to Chechens during the Chechen war was still fucked up. Like, those attacks weren't ultimately just down to being played by the west, what Russian forces did to them was genuinely brutal.
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 No.24708

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Putin says gunmen who raided Moscow concert hall tried to escape to Ukraine. Kyiv denies involvement

The suburban Moscow concert hall where gunmen opened fire on concertgoers was a blackened, smoldering ruin as the death toll in the attack surpassed 130 and Russian authorities arrested four suspects

MOSCOW – The suburban Moscow music hall where gunmen opened fire on concertgoers was a blackened, smoldering ruin Saturday as the death toll in the attack surpassed 130 and Russian authorities arrested four suspects. President Vladimir Putin claimed they were captured while fleeing to Ukraine.

Kyiv strongly denied any involvement in Friday's assault on the Crocus City Hall music venue in Krasnogorsk, and the Islamic State group's Afghanistan affiliate claimed responsibility.

Putin did not mention IS in his speech to the nation, and Kyiv accused him and other Russian politicians of falsely linking Ukraine to the assault to stoke fervor for Russia's war in Ukraine, which recently entered its third year.

U.S. intelligence officials confirmed the claim by the IS affiliate.

"ISIS bears sole responsibility for this attack. There was no Ukrainian involvement whatsoever,” National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson said in a statement.

The U.S. shared information with Russia in early March about a planned terrorist attack in Moscow and issued a public warning to Americans in Russia, Watson said.
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 No.24078[Reply]

>The appeal for the commercial enterprises that are bankrolling the research into the Familiar is indeed the unprecedented penetration into consumers' habitats and unconscious minds that it offers: this kind of AI can operate as a walking, live-in, always-on 'advertisement' for their products. 'It goes far further than that,' Bryant enthuses. 'The Familiar is the ultimate product: a product that collapses commodity, market research and promotion into one another. It's a product that sells you more products.'

http://ccru.net/archive/Commodities.htm

They have predicted so much.
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 No.24087

>>24085
Wages for Chinese workers rose by a factor of 5x over the last generation, how is that cuckoldry ? I wish western workers had any wage-growth at all.

A little over a century ago the Chinese were completely crushed, by the Japanese Empire, the British empire and others. Famine was perpetual, 20% of the population was addicted to Opium, and it was usual for parents to sell some of their children because they couldn't feed them and average life expectancy was something like 33 years. Within the last 100 years the Chinese overthrew their own ruling class, as well as the foreign occupying empires. Their life expectancy more than doubled and in addition to that they rose from the bottom of the "global rank" to the largest industrial power whose industrial output rivals the combined industrial output of the rest of the world. By any measure they're the people that stood up, and now nobody can slap them around anymore

How is this not a success story ?

If you want to complain that Chinese lack civil liberties, i tend to agree, but given their track record of raking in the Ws, what makes you think they're not going to achieve that as well ?

>This is totally different than western capitalism and totally not exploitation.

China isn't de-industrializing, it's not dominated by neocon ghouls that want to blow the surplus of society on stupid imperialist adventures. They build lots of trains and solar panels. That is different.

Chinese workers are exploited there is no doubt about that, but the rate of exploitation has begun to go down.

>Jack Ma? Oh yes, he is a capitalist, but he is /ourguy/ trust me bro.

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 No.24088

>>24086
Oh you misunderstand my politics. The neocons are currently painting China as the big bad scary that's supposed to serve as the next excuse for fear-mongering and war-mongering. I simply can't say negative things about China until they remove it from the big bad scary list, because i wish to avoid contributing to fear/war-mongering.
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 No.24089

we got off topic, somehow threads about bad shit happening in the west somehow always derail into pointing fingers at China. Might be an intentional distraction tactic or something.

>>24083
>I'm not that optimistic.
I guess it's going to be a bitter struggle for
<a free internet that's uncensored and surveillance-free
<technological self-determination
<personal ownership over personal technology

But it can be done, this is a winnable battle.
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 No.24090

>>24087
Reading your post reminds me of myself a few years ago. A few years ago, I would had totally agreed with your post. But not today anymore and I know exactly, there is no point to talk with you about China. In the past I was like you, I was also a total China fanatic. I know all these phrases, I've also read Xi's and Deng's texts. I've been watching CGTN and reading China Daily every day. But at some point I've realized, this all just copium. This world is a mess and believing in chinese socialism and the CPC gave me strength and hope. But in the end, its just a belief. It's a cope. Sooner or later, your belief will shatter as well. I don't even have to convince you, it's just a matter of time.
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 No.24091

>>24087
Btw I agree with you, that we should oppose fear/warmongering towards China.


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 No.24020[Reply]

Your bravery and sacrifice will never be forgotten. The left needs more men and women with the amount of dedication and courage that Bushnell had.
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 No.24073

>>24071
Your not wrong but to keep it fair, there is a media selection bias for showing the shit that's not normal.

>>24072
This has got to be bugging the ruling class, they want soldiers that are willing to die for their causes, not the causes of "the other side". So keep the memory alive, perhaps to make them less trigger happy when it comes to new wars.
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 No.24074

>>24068
Again with this self projection about being a lazy online leftist retard.
You really need to take meds and see a psychiatrist.l
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 No.24075

>>24074
>pharma propaganda
>bootlicking cockroach scuttles in the shadows
neoliberal garbage
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 No.24076

>>24071
I'm still not sure if it's been established who that one guy is. People have said he's police, Israeli security, or secret service… I'm not sure. But it's batshit insane seeing him dodge around with Matrix moves pointing his gun at a flaming body on the ground while everyone else tries to put it out.
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 No.24077

>>24076
>it's batshit insane seeing him dodge around with Matrix moves pointing his gun at a flaming body on the ground while everyone else tries to put it out
He's probably operating with the logic of
<put the gun between you and the danger
<Fire is danger
In general this is not a bad logic, but it failed in this episode

>People have said he's police, Israeli security, or secret service… I'm not sure.

That might explain the strange behavior, people wouldn't do this unless they have undergone a lot of very specific firearms training drills. This looks like conditioned reactions. Police, Security and spies are more likely to have undergone conditioning. They do that because subconscious reactions are faster than conscious actions, but the speed excludes the involvement of higher reasoning, so there are trade offs. Apparently one of those trade offs might be embarrassing matrix moves in unusual situations.


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 No.23999[Reply]

What american historical figures were leftists and did something major? First people that come to mind are Oppenheimer and Helen Keller. Anyone else?
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 No.24015

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 No.24016

>>24015
how was Eisenhower a leftist?
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 No.24017

>>24016
idk chuds in the 50s said he was an agent of the kremlin
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 No.24018

>>24016
By containing the spread of state capitalism of course.
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 No.23941[Reply]

I just heard about the resume of the newly named CEO of NPR, and it has to be seen to be believed. I've never seen someone with a resume that glowed this bright.

>2002-2003: The American University in Cairo, Arabic Language Institute, Arabic Language Intensive Program (ALIN)

<2004: Intensive Arabic Program at the Institut français (Ifpo) in Damascus, Syria, a university funded by the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs
>2004-2005: Council on Foreign Relations
<2005: Eurasia Group, whose leadership include Gerald Butts of the WWF and Cliff Kupchan, who worked in the State Department during the Clinton administration as deputy coordinator of US assistance to Eurasia
>2005-2007: HSBC, International Manager in London, Germany, and Canada
<2007-2010: Founding member of UNICEF "Innovation and Communication Officer" in communication, advocacy, and youth organizing
>2010-2011: "Information and communications technology (ICT)" Program Officer at National Democratic Institute (NDI) in Washington, DC
<2012: Security Fellow at Truman National Security Project
>2011-2013: "ICT" specialist at The World Bank in Washington, DC
<2012-2013: THINK school of leadership, a school for "developing creative leaders to solve global challenges", funded as a partnership of the Dutch government, Vodafone, McKinsey & Company, KLM Airlines, and other private entities. Its leadership includes Esther Wojcicki of Creative Commons. Esther Wojcicki is the mother of Susan Wojcicki, former husband of Google founder Sergey Brin and owner of DNA company 23andme, whose stated mission is to harness personal genetic information to advance research.
>2013-2014: Advocacy Director at Access Now, an organization discussed below
<2014-2022: Wikimedia Foundation
>2020: Council on Foreign Relations
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 No.23953

>>23951
Only using infographics to justify their contempt for women and brown people.

Otherwose, they whine about Wikipedia being " 'lefty' by nature".
(You know how rightists confuse leftism woth liberalism)
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 No.23954

>>23946
Wikipedia feels like something ripe for replacement by a federated alternative. There are already independent, specialized Wikis which can often be better than Wikipedias articles on the subject.
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 No.23955

>>23954
The question of who owns and controls the servers doesn't really address why Wikipedia is so bad. Wikipedia's biggest problems all stem from its fundamentally broken governance structure and contribution rules, which strongly favor corporate media stances over facts and evidence and give factions with the resources to employ large numbers of occupational users (state actors, corporate PR departments, etc.) the ability to control articles and topic areas by overwhelming non-occupational contributors.
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 No.23956

look its literally npr, USA state media. yes its propaganda and its run by propagandists. thanks for pointing out the obvious.
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 No.23957

>>23955
What I had in mind was something more akin to a non-centrally owned Fandom. Get rid of Wikipedia as a singular repository of knowledge and embrace a decebtralized, well-networked, diverse, and even redundant wikisphere.


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Continued from >>475181

Updates since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 24,000.

The US House, with Biden's support, approved more than $14,000,000,000 in military aid to Israel.

South Africa filed a case at the International Court of Justice accusing Israel of genocidal acts in Gaza.

Houthi rebels in Yemen have attacked cargo ships in the Red Sea in an attempt to disrupt the supply line of Israel's ongoing carpet bombing campaign against Gaza. The Biden admin has responded to the Houthis with a retaliatory bombing campaign.

400,000 marched in Washington DC in protest of Biden's support of Israel's genocide.
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UK workers blockade factories accused of sending arms to Israel

Trade unionists in the UK are blockading weapons factories accused of alleged arms sales to Israel amid the devastating Gaza war.

Hundreds of trade unionists and workers have shut down arms factories in England and Scotland accused of supplying the Israeli military with essential components or weapons.

The action's stated aim is to disrupt the flow of arms to Israel as it prepares for a ground invasion of Rafah and to urge the UK government to support an immediate and permanent ceasefire, the workers' groups said.

It follows the Canadian government's announcement on Tuesday that it will halt future arms sales to Israel, having already reduced its weapons shipments to Israel to non-lethal equipment, such as radios, following the 7 October Hamas attacks.

Israel's war on Gaza has killed around 32,000 Palestinians, the vast majority women and children, while a blockade has led to deaths by starvation.

Workers, including teachers and artists who are members of trade unions, are shutting down GE Aviation Systems in Cheltenham and Leonardo UK in Edinburgh – factories that produce components for F-35 fighter jets, the world's most advanced fighter jet.

A Leonardo spokesperson told The New Arab: "This morning a group of protestors assembled outside the Edinburgh site. The safety and wellbeing of our employees, contractors, and neighbours is our first priority. Police were in attendance. Leonardo UK complies fully with all the UK Government's export control protocols, the legal obligations and the processes in place to operate those protocols."
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 No.24694

>>24688
>Israelis pouring concrete into a well… in the West Bank!
I mean they're just going to dig another well. And when the cement is dried it can be chiseled into bricks for building material. But the level of mental derangement necessary for attacking life-support systems. Wow.

>>24689
>Netanyahu suggests in the Knesset that the Biden pier can be used to remove Gazans.
So Genocide Ben wants it to be a deportation-pier.
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 No.24695

>>24691
>influencing operation has been targeting UNRWA
The Zionist propaganda narrative pushers stand out like a sore thumb, the dumb fucks are so incredibly pushy, aggressive and downright grating, that they generate anti-zionism as a core value in people they touch.

I think the article somewhat misses the core of the problem. The problem isn't that they can create sock puppet accounts on social media to spread bullshit, the problem is that they're a military using information war-fare tactics against civilian populations. This is a problem in the military hierarchy failing their responsibility.

>How so?

People will realize what's going on anyway, and the Zionist silence will be understood as malicious intent.
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 No.24696

>>24694
>So Genocide Ben wants it to be a deportation-pier.
Sounds like it, yeah.
>>24695
>The Zionist propaganda narrative pushers stand out like a sore thumb, the dumb fucks are so incredibly pushy, aggressive and downright grating, that they generate anti-zionism as a core value in people they touch.
Hasbarists are remarkably similar to Swarmfront.
>I think the article somewhat misses the core of the problem. The problem isn't that they can create sock puppet accounts on social media to spread bullshit, the problem is that they're a military using information war-fare tactics against civilian populations. This is a problem in the military hierarchy failing their responsibility.
This is true. The fact that they have such a huge dedicated propaganda wing is an obvious problem, and it's a fact which their quislings in the west deliberately ignore.


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 No.23933[Reply]

God damn

Families in disbelief after hundreds of bodies found buried behind Mississippi jail

Jan 10 2024

The discovery of 215 bodies buried in unmarked graves behind a jail outside of Jackson, Mississippi, has left a community in disbelief. The families are angry they were never notified of the deaths and how their loved ones are buried in graves marked by just a metal rod and a number. Amna Nawaz discussed the disturbing details that have emerged with Bettersten Wade and attorney Ben Crump.

The families are angry their loved ones were buried in so-called pauper's graves marked by just a metal rod and a number and families were never notified of their deaths. The startling revelation came months after the mother of 37-year-old Dexter Wade filed a missing persons report last March. It wasn't until August when Bettersten Wade learned her son had been hit by a police car and killed, then buried in that same cemetery.

"And then I was calling them. They didn't have no information to let me know, have they found any information? All the details that I gave them for leads, they never came back to me to say, well, that lead led to something that we can work with. And I just couldn't believe that he had disappeared off the face of Earth and nobody knows where he at."

"And it was just horrible for me. And every day I wake up, I just want — I just look, look, look, just looking for him, just out in the streets looking for him. And, I mean, that's heartbreaking for a mother, and can't say hello, don't know how to get in touch with him. That is a horrible thing for a mother."

Benjamin Crump:
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 No.23936

>>23934
It's unclear. My impression is that causes of death vary, although the fact that they apparently told nobody about these graves and haven't kept open records of these deaths is incredibly suspicious. If it's not all murder, it's incredibly negligent at the least.
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 No.23937

>>23935
Lol, yeah that'd be the head-line if it had happened in China

>>23936
>the fact that they apparently told nobody about these graves and haven't kept open records of these deaths is incredibly suspicious.
Yup, it sounds like the premise for a B-Movie horror film.
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 No.23938

Should we expect to learn there was organ harvesting?
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 No.23939

maybe they know too much
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 No.23940

>>23938
I haven't researched the organ mafia in great detail, so take what i say with a grain of salt. It appears that they sort off "professionalized" and are no longuer operating in the underground where they get rid of bodies by digging ditches.

But you're hunch about it being some gruesome crime disposal-site, might still be true. Maybe it's cannibals. There haven't been scandals about that in a while.


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Venezuelans vote to claim sovereignty over a part of oil-rich nation Guyana
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/04/venezuelans-vote-to-claim-sovereignty-over-part-of-oil-rich-guyana.html
Is this another example of proletariat struggle against Western Imperialism? Tsnkies, sound off!
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 No.23267

>>23266
>The Venezuelan socdems will probably use it to fund social welfare with it.
Ok, Venezuelan plebs get the bread without circus, and "essequibans" get what? war?

They should look at downbassians to see what they get lol.

More blood for the multipolar God.

Humanity is so fucked lol.
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 No.23268

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SOUTHCOM to Conduct Flight Over Guyana
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>In collaboration with the Guyana Defence Force (GDF), the U.S. Southern Command (USSOUTHCOM) will conduct flight operations within Guyana on December 7. This exercise builds upon routine engagement and operations to enhance security partnership between the United States and Guyana, and to strengthen regional cooperation.
https://web.archive.org/web/20231210031648/https://gy.usembassy.gov/southcom-to-conduct-flight-over-guyana/
About to be some Kuwait invasion 2, electric boogaloo all up on tankies.
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 No.23269

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>>23260
>Venezuela isn't imperialist because Lenin says Capitalism has stages.
But Marx didn't. This is why Marxist Leninism is gross revisionism. Where capitalism exists ALL of Marxist critique applies.
Capitalism requires original capital (mistranslated as primitive capital). Basically it needs someone, somewhere get completely ripped off, no wage, no nothing
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 No.23270

>>23267
You gave me the impulse to re-examine the situation again. And i have to admit that i don't really know what game is being played.

I do know what happens to countries that get taken over by multinational oil-barons. Those are going to determine that the political rights of the locals are a "political risk" that is threatening profitability. And then the government gets replaced with a military hunta. They will also determine that the country should not have any economy that is not totally depend on the oil industry because that could result in "misaligned economic incentives". What the oil multinationals have done to countries like that is so bad that people call it "the resource curse".

There is a possibility that Venezuela isn't really trying to get Essequibo, they might just be trying to fuck with ExxonMobile's plans to get it. They might not want a hard right extraction-vassal on their boarder. They might be aiming for a situation where it's more trouble than it's worth for ExxonMobile. After-all Venezuela is not likely to outright win a military contest and lay claim to the resources, if the US gets involved in this. But they could easily frustrate the ability of ExxonMobile to conduct extraction operations.

>and "essequibans" get what?

Is there any outcome where they don't draw the ass-card ?
Based on the history of multinational resource extraction capitalism, they might be better off working out a deal with the Venezuelans. If my speculation is correct and Venezuela's priority is keeping ExxonMobile out of their backyard, they might get a really favorable deal.
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 No.23271

Here is an interesting take

The Venezuelan-Guyanese Dispute Is A Classic Security Dilemma

<Venezuelan policymakers apparently calculated that the US has a greater need at present for their country’s oil exports ahead of next year’s election and as suspicions circulate about de facto jointly led Russian-Saudi OPEC+’s strategic intentions than for oil exports from Guyana a few years down the road.


<With them in mind, these same policymakers then took note of how much the US’ stockpiles have been depleted over the past 22 months of proxy war against Russia, which led them to conclude that it’s comparatively weaker than at any time in recent memory. Accordingly, they seem to have wagered that Venezuela’s role in ensuring the US’ immediate energy security interests and that country’s newfound military limitations created the best opportunity yet for them to press their claims to Essequibo.


<The reason why they didn’t want to leave the conflict frozen was because they concluded that the US would inevitably exploit Exxon’s offshore oil investments in disputed waters as the pretext for deploying a permanent military presence that could then lead to a multitude of hybrid threats to Venezuela. It wasn’t until after the US eased the sanctions and its military limitations were exposed that policymakers realized that they had the unique opportunity to finally resolve the security dilemma over Essequibo.


https://eestieest.com/the-venezuelan-guyanese-dispute-is-a-classic-security-dilemma/


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