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 No.494892

New big thread for American studies.

Previous thread: >>487075
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 No.494893

Could we have an unprecedented opportunity to score some third party wins in the mid-term elections? The Democrats lost 2024 over Gaza and Trump has thoroughly discredited himself now.
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 No.494895

>>494893
Elections don't change anything, who cares about them?
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 No.494896

>>494893
We could, but I admittedly am in the "don't care" camp. Any voting should vote for the non-duopoly candidate most likely to win, but there is absolutely no hope in the electoral system. The very best thing it offers is a venue to potentially spread a message, but even that is stifled by a system which relies on media coverage (if you run outside of the duopoly you won't get any unless you're an astroturfed plant, and you won't be allowed at debates either) and ad campaigns.

Even if it was doable, there isn't time to rely on it. Everything should move towards organization for militant activity, sabotage, and preparation for general strikes.
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 No.494906

Is now the right time to start drafting a new constitution? Wouldn't want to be caught with our pants down when the government suddenly collapses.
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 No.494907

>>494906
You need to have a party to have a constitution, who is going to enforce it?
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 No.494910

>>494909
>>494907
I mean a constitution for the new government, lol
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 No.494911

All right, so we all know that the legislature should be selected through sortition, with potentially provisions for direct citizen lawmaking. What about the executive and judiciary? Should the president/prime minister be selected from the legislative body through some kind of parliamentary coalition? How will we ensure as stable and effective court system without the inherent oligarchic institution of judge appointment/election?
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 No.494912

>>494911
not everything needs to be democratic
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 No.494915

>>494912
Are you actually a leftist?
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 No.494916

>>494915
define leftism
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 No.494917

>>494916
Stop asking for fucking definitions
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 No.494919

>>494917
in that case i can't tell you for certain
based on how most people who call themselves leftists act and think, i guess i'm not a leftist
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 No.494920

>>494916
Someone who opposes the capitalist economic system.
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 No.494921

>>494920
then no, i am not aleftist
i want a planned economic system that will build upon, alter and supersede a capitalist economic system
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 No.494922

>>494921
And how do you expect to build such a system without eliminating class? Or do you think you can eliminate class without democracy?
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 No.494923

>>494922
why would a planned economic system require the abolition of class society in order to exist?
if instead you mean that it will eventually entail the abolition of class society, then that's good i suppose
but i don't really care about class society either way
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 No.494924

>>494911
I'm gonna say something a lil' controversial - I like most of the US Constitution, and think we could keep the letter of most it as long as we pay it actual heed. The EC should be reformed within it to definitively reflect '1 person = 1 vote' in national elections instead of doing it by state, land/property rights and taxation should be reformed, and otherwise I think a lot of the necessary stuff would have to be done actively rather than just, like, written down. A revolution needs to start as a broad workers' movement, the constitution should be a popular constitution foremost, and we should aim to push the existing, capitalist/rentier oligarchs out while preserving much of the existing state bureaucracy so that we have infrastructure to build on top of and alter actively. And then, if that fails, we have another revolution which starts with a more specific constitution. My feeling is that most reforms (outside of land/property reform, although even those can be done at least part way) could be done with legal reforms not reliant on major Constitutional rewriting.
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 No.494925

>>494924
Oh, and we would definitely have to take out the slavery abolition "exemption" that allows prison slave labor. Ditch that shit.
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 No.494926

>>494924
The US Constitution is a construction by and for oligarchy from the beginning. You have to make some fundamental changes to the way it describes government if you don't want another oligarchy to assert itself and undermine the next constitution.
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 No.494935

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"we ran the gas chambers on your family so we could slide down a hill!"
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 No.494936

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>>494935
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 No.494937

using schizo means you have no argument.

You have no argument because I am telling the truth.
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 No.494938

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"I ran the gas chamber on your family so I could slide down a hill!"
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 No.494939

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"We ran the gas chambers on your family so we could slide down a hill!"
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 No.494943

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"I ran the gas chamber on your family so that I could slide down a hill. Gas chamber exhaust is permanent!"

Don't like it? I'll call the white american nazi gas chamber police and have them herd you in to the gas chambers! Barbie's Beetle is NOT hitler's gas chamber. Dont even say that out loud or my white american nazi gas chamber police husband will make herd you in to the gas chambers and make you disappear in the concentration camps!
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 No.494944

let's study the americans in this thread.
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 No.494945

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"we ALL ran the gas chambers on your family so that we can slide down a hill!"
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 No.494947

>>494944
The thing they love most in the world is the gas chamber. you cant just go and criticize their gas chamber like that.
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 No.494948

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let's post a clear image of the gas chambers so that the americans don't pretend they do nazi the gas chambers like they usually do.
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 No.494949

I ran the gas chambers on your family permanently to pick up a little bit of weed.
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 No.494950

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>>494948
remember when you all wouldn't stop running the gas chambers no matter what?
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 No.494951

Do you have to make them dismantle the gas chambers by force?
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 No.494952

>>494945
>>494948
>>494950
>>494951
This is annoying and retarded.
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 No.494953

remember when you wouldnt stop running the gas chambers no matter what?
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 No.494954

how do the americans justify disguising their gas chambers as transportation?
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 No.494956

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 No.494957

>>494954
The gas chambers aren't even hiding behind the bushes where we do not see them.
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 No.494958

I want THEM to talk about the fucking gas chambers for a change.
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 No.494959

Would I have to become the allies? Would I have to bring force to your doorstep because you won't stop running the gas chambers on your own?
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 No.494961

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 No.494963

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"we ran the gas chambers on your family so we could slide down a hill!"
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 No.494968

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The brown shirts beat people who threatened the gas chambers.

American cops beat people who threaten the gas chambers.

Same job. Same violence. Same protection of genocide.
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 No.494969

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Look how this brown shirt herds bodies in to gas chambers.
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 No.494970

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>>494969
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 No.494972

Mods, this is obnoxious.
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 No.494976

>>494972
"my right to gas chamber your mother at the bus stop is being threatened!"
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 No.494977

the founding fathers would be DISGUSTED to hear you talking about taking away my right to gas chamber your mama at the bus stop.
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 No.494978

>>494976
1. I don't drive.
2. This cloudcuckooland bullshit you keep posting is clearly just meant to shit up this site.
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 No.494981

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 No.494982

If I'm the only one in the US politics thread talking about the very obvious gas chambering operation then we are all going to die.

Americans will kill your family and call it freedom.
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 No.494983

freedom is the oil

talking to americans is like talking to the nazis in 1943
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 No.494984

>>494981
The US military pollutes way fucking more than cars do. So do rich capitalists' private jets. The US & "Israel" literally just set a refinery on fire and caused massive toxic black clouds and black rain in a city of millions, initiating a back-and-forth where multiple oil sites have now been bombed.
Weird how this PETA-esque bullshit this obvious shitposter is doing never mentions the actual chemical warfare employed by the US military, the world's single biggest polluter, but people who drive or ride a car to work are literally Hitler!

Almost like this is not a serious poster and he's only here to pretend to be a whimpy, detached parody of a liberal activist on here for shits'n'giggles.
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 No.494985

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>>494984
Look at the US military, dont look at us running hitler's army on 4 wheels right now.
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 No.494986

>>494961
Take off the fucking parascope.
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 No.494988

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>>494984
The bombing of the Nordstream pipeline alone contributed as much to global warming as 8 million cars driven for an entire year.
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 No.494989

You're using the military as a shield so you don't have to look at yourself.

Hitler's army on 4 wheels IS the military.
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 No.494990

yes you would have to use force on them to make them dismantle the gas chambers.
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 No.494991

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 No.494992

>>494985
Yes, do look at the military. They emit vastly more than people driving to and from work do.

It turns out that carpet bombing and burning hospitals and flying superfast jets which burn tons of fuel and driving big armored vehicles which require large amounts of energy to move… are bad for the environment. Do you realize that bombs and missiles and burning metal and phosphorous causes a fucktonne of air pollution? Did you know that turning buildings and everything in them into blazing infernos releases stuff into the air that's toxic to breathe?
Do you realize that one of the chief tactics of the IOF is carpetbombing so much that the fires in a neighborhood suck up all the air in an area and replace it with poisonous gases?

Of course you fucking do. You know this stuff, you just pretend you don't because you're here to shit up the board with this stupid charade.
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 No.494999

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those are very obviously gas chambers you genocidally racist holocaust bound denial-prone white american nazi.
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 No.495000

remember when you all wouldn't stop running the gas chambers no matter what?
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 No.495001

Look at the US military, dont look at us running hitler's army on 4 wheels right now.
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 No.495002

you racist fucking white people dont let any one speak until it's already too late. You built the gas chambers.
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 No.495003

I'm supposed to give you the intel but you all are too fucking gross.
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 No.495142

Oil refinery explosion in Texas a few days ago.
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 No.495147

Neutrality Studies - The Wars of the Epstein Class (w/ Dr. Aaron Good)
Discusses the deep connection between organized crime & the American state, its long history, and the deep connection between zionist American organized crime & the "Israeli" state.
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 No.495199

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May 1st general strike in the US.

If this works, is effective, and is simultaneous with other radical actions, it will be a good mark for the PSL's strategy. Best wishes for its success, and best wishes for the triumph of workers' war over zionist imperial tyranny!
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 No.495201

>>495199
Are they actually organizing workplaces around this, or is this more of the college activism brainrot in PSL that presumes you can spontaneously mobilize mass action with a flyer?
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 No.495202

>>495201
I mean, they were central in organizing the successful shutdown in MN earlier this year. They have a union presence, and their outreach is generally more organized than just, like, flyering. They've had successful walkout campaigns, too. They have a much better grip on how this stuff works than others do, and I'll personally hold off critique until I see what they do in May.
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 No.495209

>>495199

good luck, has there realistically been a general strike in recent history that actually led to meaningful change in the US?
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 No.495212

>>495209
The only general strike in recent US history was earlier this year in MN, and prior to that there hadn't been a general strike for at least a decade afaik, I think much longer. That strike did seem to achieve its goal, or at least came close, but, admittedly, it was a much less lofty goal - the retreat of ICE from MN.

Even that much more localized strike & shutdown (although it was accompanied by nationwide school walkouts, which were much less significant than the labor strike in MN even if they numbered greatly) was territory which hasn't been touched in the US for many years. Pulling off something like it nationwide will be commendable, and a sign of great organizational progress. The ability to withhold labor organizationally is a necessary weapon, and must be sharpened.

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