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 No.71[Reply]

Does Post Left Anarchism have any direct relation with Anarcho-Nihilism?
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 No.81

&gt&gt114>anti-collectivist (anti-politics, imo) &gt&gt115Aren't we talking about the same political tradition that is against any programmes, platforms, collective lines – collective organization as such?Insurrectionism as strategy, conceived in this negative way, is hardly more than aestheticization of post-politics. It disbands structures for theatrics, seeks catharsis from carnival. It's an ideological mirror of the hegemonic presented as radicalism: panacea against the atomized individual? More individualism!>capitalism is destroying itself well enough without our interventionWithout a guarantee of what comes next, collective inaction will surely contribute to the best future possible! Spontaneity is on our side!
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 No.82

&gt&gt118Listen here you fucking autist, maybe you should actually do something other than shitpost your smug bullshit about insurrectionism if you've clearly never read anything at all about it. Insurrectionism and post-left anarchy in general is opposed to formal, permanent organizations - not organizations based on affinity, which can be spontaneous and small or can be large and long-lasting. Whatever the case may be, the whole point is that these groups argue for organization that doesn't just end up creating more hierarchies and actively dismiss individual members of the organization and de-legitimate anyone who is outside the organization.>Without a guarantee of what comes next, collective inaction will surely contribute to the best future possible! Spontaneity is on our side!And once again that isn't what I was saying, and in fact I made that point quite clear in the post you responded to, and once again you're posting smug bullshit and ignoring the rest of my post.
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 No.83

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&gt&gt119>maybe you should actually do something other than shitpost your smug bullshit about insurrectionism if you've clearly never read anything at all about itI've actually read The Coming Insurrection, Debord, several anarcho-nihilist texts (I'm pretty certain I was the first to mention Monsieur Dupont on Leftypol), and I'm familiar with the most prominent scholar on insurrectionism/situationism in Eastern-Europe, G. M. Tamás, and I'm also familiar with Socialisme ou Barbarie group's main ideas and its later splinters, but from these mostly with Castoriadis and Lyotard.>opposed to formal, permanent organizationsYeah, but, you know, in theory at least, communists are against permanent organizations as well, since we want to abolish the proletariat as class. Your rant seems to indicate that you'd deny this as well.>organizations based on affinity, which can be spontaneous and small or can be large and long-lastingI look at at the organizational ideas (communes, affinity-groups) and practical aims (sabotage, terror) laid down by the Invisible Committee with sympathy, but the group's subsequent attempts and ultimate failure (and probably abandonment of the project altogether), not to mention the (sorry for my [i]sectarian[/i] [i]dogmatist[/i] leftypol term) anarchokiddies pointing at them and doing nothing more than carnivals, destruction of property at protests and clashes with the popo, was all predictable if one knew criticisms of individualism and Utopian-socialism.>organization that doesn't just end up [delegitimizing] anyone who is outside the organization.(So, hold on to your pooper bag, it's my time to accuse you of bad things.) It seems to me that you are not familiar with the dynamics of 20st century communism, and I'm thinking specifically about the history of the communist internationals. If you look at Lenin's proposals at the third ("Twenty-one Conditions") you'll see him doing two things: building adhesion and introducing a line of differentiation. You could interpret this as an attempt at delegitimization (of socdems, anarchists et al.) and sectarianism, but I think that the "Leninist truth" in these moments is the discarding of the fantasy of unprincipled unity, of "anything goes" politics, of the idea that politics proper doesn't require a line drawn in the sand – a fantasy I keep detecting from anarchists, when they valorize consensus, temporal affinity, and so on. If I really had to use your terms, I Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.121

&gt&gt120Woah, TGM is known outside Hungary?


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 No.101[Reply]

I'm gone for two weeks and suddenly this board exists and we're at war with wheelchan.I've never even heard of "post-leftism". What the fuck are you people?
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 No.102

It is a secret plot by the [i]Jews[/i] [i]porky[/i] [i]liberals[/i] Irish to destroy /leftypol/ and the remnants of the Old Left once and for all and replace it with lifestylist capitalist enabling! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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 No.103

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