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Is there a spanish translation of Desert? If not, I could make one.
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sounds boring
so its like a stem reasearch paper? what does that have to do with anarchism?


why are you being like this


just wanna know what it is about


It is about how climate change makes the "traditional" anarchist goals impossible and what could be done instead.


Its leftist shits out of france that burgers larp as an annil adjacent.

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I remember a few months back(probably a qhole year by now) I made a thread here with some autistic pepe img, asking why it's so hard to find a job and asked for your help.

Non of you retarded revolutionaries gave me anyworth while advice. can't really blame you tho, there's not much you can do besides keep applying.

After months of rejections, I've finally found some warehouse job, so please congratulate me.

I decided to listen to those old union songs again now with extra immersion, besides work is hard and those songs really motivate me and I can feel some pride for working half the day, don't worry tho, my revolutionary spirit is still strong. so now that I have become a true proletariat, how do I unionize and start my revolutionary actions without losing the job? I doubt I have any charisma to persuade my coworkers to unionize, we have a pretty epic union in town but is it wprth joining? Keep in mind, while I've not been diagnosed with anything I do believe that I am severely mentally ill.
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to give him*


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>how do I unionize and start my revolutionary actions without losing the job?
you don't
good for you, you have a job now. Now you can spend all your time and energy for porkie, but hey at least you can eat. Rock the boat at you're expense. Not saying don't try, but be careful and think about why. Do you personally have grievences yet? Have you tried to resolve them?
Personally, I havent found that anyone gives a shit enough to make thier job better, and mangagement knows they can be narcsisistic shits so they dont care about you. All you can do is try to be equally selfish and retarded.
Which is coincidentally the whole goal of pushing this individualized, liberal, gentrified mindset on us. So it's bad to beleive this… but also this is the truth. They want you to think you can't fight them or organize. But also you can't fight them or organize (successfully).

Have a good week waging. I hope you make good money compared to your rent, and don't waste it all on videogames and weed and soda (or anything unhealthy for you).

For real… good luck and stay in good heath anon comrade,and try and make some friends


from my experience, there are two types of people:
-the ones who really hate their work
-the ones who have convinced themselves they love their work because they think having a job you like is a condition of success and they wanna see themselves as successful

neither one of them is very easily persuaded into unionising. the first type wants nothing to do with his job, and unionising would usually mean spending extra time and energy on your job, so he doesnt like it. also, these people usually have already reignated any hope of improving their shitty job.
the second type would obviously oppose unionising because they wanna think they love their job, and improving the work situation would be the same as admitting that its not grat. they would probably infrom higher-ups too and try to frustrate your attemps.

gotta be honest: the leftist narrative of 'organise your workplace' is kinda unrealistic. in my country ate least there only exist those unions that have a history dating back to the 20th century. For example, the railroad workers have just started striking again, but their millieu is one that is typically associated with striking and unionising. People already percieve them that way and the railroad workers iudentify with it.
But other than that, there is basically no relevant union work going on. I think it's very hard to establish union culture in 21st century work spaces that just really arent associated with it.


Agreed 100% with this post.
Congrats anon. I hope you keep your job.


Henlo Anon. Congratulations on your position. I just wanted to add to the cynical perspecive regarding unionization. No matter what sorts of friendships you cultivate at your work place, your coworkers own up to the boss and their job first of all. I think it would be better praxis to agitate in the agora irl and online but it's best to form relationships, share a perspective, work towards small material goals. Self-organize for mutual aid.

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What "is" (anarchist) nihilism?
Sort of related, but I've been reading desert and I understand some of the themes, but I'm lost at a couple of ideas. I'll have to reread through my notes later, but I want to ask if someone could explain what makes civilization inherently harmful.
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this doesnt get posted enough
and i know its post left in general, but there is a nihilist anarchy section


Sweet, I'll habe to check it out. Thanks! Do you think there are any on this list that are essential or can I read whatever seems interesting?


the latter


Gotcha. Thank you so much for the help!



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Our epoch is an epoch of decadence. Bourgeois-christian-plebeian civilization arrived at the dead end of its evolution a long time ago.

Democracy has arrived!

But under the false splendor of democratic civilization, higher spiritual values have fallen, shattered.

Willful strength, barbarous individuality, free art, heroism, genius, poetry have been scorned, mocked, slandered.

And not in the name of “I”, but of the “collective”. Not in the name of “the unique one”, but of society.

Thus christianity — condemning the primitive and wild force of the virgin instinct — killed the vigorously pagan “concept” of the joy of the earth. Democracy — its offspring — glorified itself making the justification for this crime and reveling in its grim and vulgar enormity.

Already we knew it!

Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors.
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what does that even mean you italian asshole? wouldnt the proper analogy to the boirgeoisie be the patricians?


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No, Novatore had this weird idea of the "libertarian aristocracy" and blamed the bourgeoisie for lowering everyone down to a commoner, kind of like how Wilde talks about false individualism.


rebranded neet-zsche? come on, /dead/, up your game a bit!


I just finished reading the whole thing and honestly I was left sort of confused. I liked the emphasis on individualism and the human spirit but I think a lot of the analogies had me lost.


well hes italian, what did you expact but a bunch of gobbledygook

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>rejected from every university I applied to
I understand how bourgois that statement is, but honestly, I don't even give a fuck anymore.
Every since I was a little kid, this was something I was looking forward to. It was honestly my identity.
I mean, it's not too bad. It could be worse. One school offered me an alternative program (environmental sciences stuff), but its a far departure from what I had originally wanted to do, engineering (yeah I'm a STEMfag, blow me).
I guess the part that scares me most is wondering if I'll be happy with my decision to accept the alternative offer. Of course I'm going to try to get into engineering again, but I'm scared with what I'll do if I like my current program. It would be abandoning my identity that I've had for most of my life. I'm not sure if it's something I can let go of so easily. Doesn't help how my dad reminds me that I'm not in engineering every time I bring up my acceptance into the alternate program.
Part of me knows that I'll enjoy this program, I've always been interested in the environmental sciences.
Working my shit-tier wage job only makes me feel like even more shit. I dream of a utopian post-revolution world where I'm free to live as I please and do whatever piques my interest.
I think I'm just scared of making decisions.


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abandon your stupid identity
and yes it is increibly bourgeois, not cuz you want to go to college, but because its your identity
also tell your dad to eat a dick stop being a cuck
and yeah you probably are scared to make decisions, most young people are cause you're literally your parents property and own nothing, can decide nothing for yourself, according to the state. Its something you have to untrain though, so stop being scared of decisions, have faith in yourself, and just look to the outcomes. Strip your identity back to your power. You are what you control. You mind, your skills, your body, and your property. As long as you have food, water, and shelter your body and mind is gonna be alive at least. Make good decisions e.g. exercise and eat well and you'll have an even more willing and able body and mind at your disposal. This is all that matters. You are not your "identity". You are not engineering or college or a stemfag.
Look back into your past, find your first memory and work forward in time until present. That's you. You're not your mind, of your body, or your identity or beliefs. You're your history.

Go forward and do as best as you can. If you like environmental stuff then do that…. your identity should just blow away in the wind, dont let it lead your life or make you feel things. Tell it to fuck off. See your life as opportunities. You have an opportunity to do environmental sciences, or to not do college, but not to do engineering right now unless you find a way into that (did you try applying to not universities, but just small colleges? is that an option for you? or community college?). Overall you're gonna be fine. If you're happy and get a career out of it, even better for you.
also this OP is /dead/ in a nutshell damn


apply to europe or asia.


Thanks, anon. I feel really good after reading that.


>[spoiler]also this OP is /dead/ in a nutshell damn[/spoiler]
Forgot to mention that it's nice hearing that too. I feel right at home here, lol.


>It would be abandoning my identity that I've had for most of my life.
Well, here is the good news: You wouldn't.
You wouldn't because you didnt have that identity for your whole life, IT had YOU.
You are a person, you can have several properties (young/old, smart/stupid, interested in this or that and so on). But the thing is: It's you who has the properties, they are part of you. You are their essence, they are part of you, not the other way around. And I understand that ppl view properties of themselves as so important, that they seem them as a necessary part of their being. "I have done X all my life, it wouldnt be the smae life, my life, if I had done Y instead". But this is wrong. It would still be your life, maybe it would be different, but definetly yours. But if we were to change the person not the thing he is doing, that would actually not make it your life anymore.
The reason ppl presuppose their properties as essence of their being is because it gives the illusion of control of your life. But isnt that detrimental to your freedom? You DONT have to align your life with this property of yours, you are a creative nothing. You can be anything if you just decide you want to create it out of yourself. Why would you be sad if you cant be an engineer OP, if you can be everything else. Even if youve seen this as your path for a long time, your path can be much different, much greater and much more fulfilling.

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>wake up
>eat commodity
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i engaged directly with what you said
there literally are other things
capital has reduced everything within itself to commodities and all interactions to transactions….
not everything is subsumed, and you can still go out and play and open up non-capitalist space by doing activities that are not transactions
barf whatever off-brand blackpill u swallosed and lighten up and see the world for what it is. there's still space to live that isnt capitalism.


>lighten up
fuck off back to /leftypol/


1. projection
2. all you can say about it is go back to leftypol, obviously you know somewhere deep inside i'm right and this thread is a weird as shit circlejerk for people who have lost all imagination, never played outside as kids, and want constant validation for their pessimism


Marxism was invented to depress people


>never played outside as kids,
The fuck are you on? I have fucking played outside as a kid, what does that have to do with anything? Are you really so fucking patronising that you think ppl on here are depressed cause they didnt have a dumb, mythical, petite-bourgeois picture-book childhood? Get fucking over yourself.
It must be fucking nice though, to delude yourself about the state we are actually in. When >>2258 said that there are no other things, no things outside of capitalism anymore, that is undoubtedly true.
What is there to do? You say 'do some hobbies' (wow what a fucking revelation, are you also the type that tells depressed ppl to be happier?). Like for example one could join a sports team. Sport teams, as we know them today, came up with fordism and the new demand for past-time activities . So it's a structure thats directly born out of capitalist development. But sports also reproduces capitalist ideology, seeing any field as a field of competition, with the winners eligible for big-money sponsorships and semi-prominency. If your arent able to fulfill the specific perfomance standarts, your are useless. Also, sports are being consumed as commodites (just like literally everything surrounding us) and thus also produced as commodities. Ones it gets proffesional, sports is no longer done for intrinsic value as sports, it is only a way to accumulate money, sport is only made to be sold.
Same is true for the next example I'm gonna look at: arts. No matter if you are drawing, making music or movies, it has all become commodities. If you draw, you are better ready to lower yourself to drawing pregnant furry commisions for small money. Forget doing something just for its own sake - the market for art is big and inflated, so you better lower your standarts. But at least the field of drawn art isnt as dominated by giant mega-businesses as movies or music are, squashing any creativity in favor of marketability. But what's even worse than them are their counterparts on the "indie" scene - pumping out one dull nightmare after another in desperate attemps to subvert the culture - sadly not understanding that they reify industry norms by doing so.
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>"The unrestrained I—and this we originally are, and always remain in our secret inner self—is the never-ending criminal in the state…You do not know that a self-owning I cannot desist from being a criminal, that crime is his life"

To be a true egoist, does that mean embracing illegalist gang? What does /dead/ think?


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> a true egoist


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>To be a true egoist, does that mean embracing illegalist gang?
A 'true' egoist does what he desires. If he desires to break the law and do illegal things, he does it. But if he doesnt, it wouldnt make him 'less' of an egoist. In fact, doing crime just because you think it's what 'real" egoists do is super spooked, because you put the notion of being an egoist before yourself.
What Stirner is talking about in that quote is that doing anything solely for your own good is always a crime against the state because the state only recognises you as human if your actions are carried out with the state's well-being in mind.

that being said illegalism is really dank, it's just not a prerequisite for egoism


marx himself liked to fuck shit up in the streets when drunk, illegalism is pretty leftist in general if you ask me fam


I am no longer interested.


get owned contrarian child

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When you browse /leftypol/, you often see threads titled something like "Your former ideologies" or "Your history as a leftist", in which anons don't get tired describing their past with spooky shit like 'Leninist', 'ML', 'ANcom', completly abstract words without any meaning, any material force, behind them. Because what really is the material difference between being a leninist and a syndicalist when both have the same amount of revolutionary force behind them: none.
Tankie parties as well as syindicalist unions have failed to organise the working class fo the last half century. Neither have any impact on national politics or the economy. Calling yourself one or the other is mere play-pretend. Anyone with eyes in their heads sees that the modern working class has no interest fighting capitalism through strike and organisation - and that's probably for the best. If any of these modern cults calling themselves leftist parties actually got popular, it would sooner result in another century of authoritarian rule than working class emancipation simply because these revolutionary possessed don't even fight for latter. Their goal is the realisation of a spook, an ideal, like communism or anarchism. It's all meaningless. Neither anarchism nor communism has ever existed - even anarchists and communists will attest this. What they don't understand is that the root of the circumstance is the idea-form of concepts like communism themselves.
Matter and ideas mutually exclusive. They can never be the same. Our view of reality is always subjective, the reality as we experience it isn't the same that materially exists. Our concept of reality doesn't and can't have the same content as reality because if they had, matter and idea were equal. The quality of matter IS it not being ideal, therefore this is impossible.
Leftists think themselves communism or anarchism like this or that, imagine themselves solutions to fictional problems of how to run economies that will never exist. Not because conditions that can be described as communism or anarchism will never exist, but because if they exist, they will exist materially and therefore have no connection to how their believers imagine them. Marx's analysis of many aspects of capitalism are quite good, but they don't describe the material existence of capitalism, not in the 19th century and even less now. It works with ideas, abstractions of the material conditions, and it has to because you literally can't grasp tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Late to the party, but extremely well put, OP. You put into words what I have been slowly realizing over the past year–all this political LARPing is a complete waste of time.


lol dude I told the leaders of the communist party in my country to fuck off when they asked me to stop smoking weed and left the party in the middle of a dictatorship a few decades ago and literally nothing happened to me

stop reading too much fanfiction, weeblord


also op is a faggot neopositivist, sad to see this becoming more prevalent lately!


whats that uwu?


>ideologies are retarded anyways here's my retarded ideology but it doesn't have a name so it's epic

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What the fuck is gender nihilism/abolitionism/etc.?
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So what you say is that enbies are the revolutionary subject?


Virgin Enby
>uses discord
>cat ears
>obsessed with anime
>more fem than masc
>always thinking about gender

Chad GNC Identityless Individual
>never refers to themselves in any way
>doesnt have any government documentation, because that would make facets of their being explicit
>doesnt know what discord is
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What's wrong with cat ears


there's nothing inherently wrong with cat ears.
But they're associated with a certain scene and first of all I just don't like the weebs n furries n sex obsessed nerds who generally are into cat ears, but also it's just too much of a meme now. Cat ears got too big. We live in post Big-Ear world. Big-Ear controls our society now, so as an anarchist I oppose cat ears, for ideological reasons


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The virgin imageboard user vs. the chad anon.

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make /dead/ great again


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&gt&gt255We need horses comradehttps://youtu.be/uiv3VT13AcQ




horses are so cool


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