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 No.2085[Reply]

Is Stirnirite egoism and Marxism incompatible? What if I agree with both Marx's critique of capitalism and Stirner's egoism? What does that make me?
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 No.2097

>>2094
Marx was wrong because he predicted a proletarian mass movement to arise from highly developed capitalist relations, but this never happened, In fact, there has never been a proletarian revolution in all of history. The bolsheviks got into power through a coup and the masses were mobilised by the second world war going badly and not by capitalist relations they had whished to be destroyed. In China, Vietnam, Korea and Cuba we see mostly national liberation struggles being the cause of a regime change, it just so happened that the forces winning out in the end were the communist parties. Lastly, there are countries like the GDR that did not only not have a proletarian revolution, they didnt have any revolution but simply lost a war against socialist forces and was declared socialist afterwards. So in no instance did socialist rule establish itself through a mass movement that had the goal of dismantling capitalism.
The reason for this is that class counsciosness doesnt exist or at least doesnt exist in a historically or politcially relevant manner. Marx predicted that class counsciosness would arise in those situations were capitalism is developed the strongest and the internal contradictions of capitalism create the highest pressure upon the working class, instead we have only seen socialist attemps in places were capitalism was poorly developed and the centers of capitalist production even seem to be the most stable.
Other points worthy of critique in marxism are it's conception of history (communism is is no historical destination), his disregard of the states own reproduction of hierarchy and his own petite-bourgeois prejudices against the lumpenproletariat, but even I don't fully reject marx. I think his theory of value and exploitation is spot on and alot of his sociological observations are REALLY good, but there just wont ever be a class counscious mass movement fighting to emancipate themselves from capitalism. That's just a pipedream.
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 No.2102

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Is egoism inherently compatible with any political ideology you honestly desire to be realized?
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 No.2112

>>2102
yes, because egoism is not a political philosophy
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 No.2147

>>2092
Novatore is such a larper lmaoooo
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 No.2149

>>2147
you mean like a pseudo-intellectual?
idk, i always got the vibe of him being pretty clear on not being philosophy in the traditional sense.


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 No.3[Reply]

/r9k/ is death but now we have a new meme board
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 No.1779

Hello No 3
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 No.1781

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>meems
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 No.1785

>>1781
I liek this animu
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 No.2143

not even a pleasant go fuck yourself from them i got


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 No.2035[Reply]

What is the egoist view on infidelity? I have a LDR gf that I love and would like to marry, but I'd like to fuck sluts on the side. Am I a piece of shit?
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 No.2136

>>2104
jealousy is such an incredibly toxic aspect of human relationships. i don't understand jealousy, and i don't tolerate it in my own relationships
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 No.2137

Isn't it profoundly anti-egoist to ask what the proper egoist view is before doing something
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 No.2138

Jfc just read Sade
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 No.2140

>>2137
not if you consider other egos as an extension of your own, such that asking them questions and receiving answers to those questions amounts to nothing more than a self-dialogue

>t. transcendental metaphysicist, panentheistic, cosmic solipsist egoist
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 No.2105[Reply]

I'm a 28 year old living in Corpus Christi, a very nice town in Texas, but it is plagued with homeless people. As a form of direct action, I have taken matters into my own hands to help the city.
Last week I found a hobo walking through the grocery store parking lot in the morning, I strike up a conversation with him and befriend him. Then I offer $200 if he helps me move furniture out of my house in Austin. He agrees, so we go to Austin, like a 4 hour drive. I pull up near a gas station in some random uygha ghetto and offer a chance to use the bathroom.
I leave him and drive back to Corpus. Is relocating the homeless to shit cities the answer we've been looking for? I think next weekend I'm gonna pick up 3 hobos and leave them in Dallas.
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 No.2110

Why did you anchor my thread with no explanation, bitch?
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 No.2111

>egoism


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 No.1985[Reply]

Max Stirner was Fredrich Engels's pseudonym. Karl Marx learned of Stirner only through Engels. Engels was a closet egoist but didn't want to come to blows with Marx so he created this character to show Marx his ideas. Marx hated it and wrote The German Ideology. The rest is history.
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 No.1988

>>1985
yeah I heard this theory before, I think its partially true
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 No.1989

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>>1988
It's obvious. "Stirner" "died" of a bug bite, which is absurd, and nobody attended his funeral except Bruno Bauer, who also arranged the funeral, and his grave lists him as "Max Stirner" rather than his actual real name, there aren't even photographs of him. We think he exists because Engels and Marx and other Young Hegelians said he did, they made him up and gave him an entire philosophy of spooks as a big joke because he is himself a spook.
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 No.1992

>>1989
>nobody attended his funeral except Bruno Bauer
That's rough.
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 No.2098

>>1985
Unless Engels faked an entire life's worth of writings, documents and other people's personal accounts for a period of decades, that's bullshit.

>>1989
It was not a bug bite, but a common tumor which was suggested to be because of the bite of a poisonous fly. The grave is listed as Max Stirner because that's the name he used most often in his later years, and all who cared about him by the time of his death would have referred to him as such. The lack of photographs can be explained by a combination of chance and the fact that he lived in poverty for a significant amount of his life and was a very cloistered person.
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 No.2099

>>1985
I doubt it otherwise das kapital would be tainted


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 No.2071[Reply]

I can't stop thinking about death. My own death, specifically. No, I'm not suicidal. Just that we have this short time on Earth and spend it suffering before getting blinked out of existence entirely.

And eventually, forgotten. Think of all the people who have lived, ever since caveman times. Most of them have been forgotten. Eventually even Caesar will be forgotten and he has a fucking month named after him.

Is life just a sick joke? Just some pointless temporary misery?
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 No.2080

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>>2071
take it as liberating
no one will remember you being a retard either
you get to live a whole life, without any historical responsibility
also, suffering is a state of mind. listen to anon saying to read buddha. get out of the reactive mindset, and get into a mindset of agency and choosing what you want to do. Even if you're suffering, you'll be suffering for reasons you can comprehend. And always remind urself that you could kill yourself at any time. Give yourself that way out. But more often than not, you'll realize that you aren't suffering bad enough right now, or your suffering will alleviate some so why not just wait, etc.
The biggest thing though really is take charge of your life, and stop making excuses if you do that, like about how capitalism is unable to be overcome, or anything like that. Look at how your life is materially, imagine all possibilities. Where can you gain more freedom? What is the furthest you could go?
The fear of death usually indicates in my experience, that you're not living life right. If you're living life, then you don't fear death. The problem is that you're already dead, and it's all you know. Start from yourself, look at the world with new eyes, think about what you want to do, and then take your life back. When you're on the right road again, there's no reason to fear death, because you're already doing as good as you can do, so if there's death fated for you it's pointless to fight it because there's no better life in fighting it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuJ-TOZuyzI
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 No.2082

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>>2071
>I can't stop thinking about death.
i can really relate OP, I had a phase where it was the exact same for. I would just lay awake night after night and think about non-existence and how my actions ultimately dont matter. It filled me with a kind of dread which is hard to describe, it was a very hollow feeling for sure.
Eventually I realised that being forgotten doesnt matter and that endlessly brooding over my end does nothing but worsen my time in the present. I still am terrified of the thought of being dead, I just learned to avoid thinking about it.
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 No.2083

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Do not fear Death. Death is always at our side. When we show fear, it jumps at us faster than light. But, if we do not show fear, it casts its eye upon us gently and then guides us into infinity.
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 No.2084

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I think no thoughts
I have no beliefs
I have no regrets over the past
I have no hope for the future
I have no energy to stay awake
None of it has any meaning at all.
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 No.2089

>>2084
sing


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 No.2014[Reply]

Flag check
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 No.2056

Check
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 No.2077

test
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 No.2078

test
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 No.2079

test
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 No.2081

test


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 No.2068[Reply]

Uh oh.
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 No.2069

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 No.2070

>>2068
>>2069
shit i tried to post the uh oh stinky meme
just imagine that instead


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 No.308[Reply]

how do you beat the demiurge?
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 No.319

we need a gnostic board on this platform
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 No.321

>>319ill put a gnostic board in your platform if you know what i mean ;)
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 No.2063

>>308
>how do you beat the demiurge?
>how
>do
>you
>beat
>the
>fucking
>demiurge
hahahahahahaha

we fucked up somewhere very badly in our past lives you should've realized that by now
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 No.2065

Isn't the whole point that the demiurge is mad/retarded? Shouldn't be that hard to outwit.
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 No.2066

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>>308
Know Thyself


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 No.270[Reply]

i wanna die
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 No.291

We will live in a gulag with a human face.
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 No.293

&gt&gt343> Some years ago, I had written that the West's political paradigm was no longer the city state, but the concentration camp, and that we had passed from Athens to Auschwitz.Based Agamben telling it like it is
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 No.302

>>270build an RC foam airplane. Pretty fun and relatively cheap
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 No.2013

i also wanna die, but I want the rest of the world to die too.
like, im not gonna give the world the satisfaction of having won over me. if im gonna go everybody else better come with me.
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 No.2064

>>270
make sure you go out with a bang


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