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 No.1467[Reply]

How do I get rid of the spooks in my head that tell me that I am worthless and the world would be better off if every trace of my existence was erased?
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 No.1524

>>1518
i agree that i havent really made a case for the mind actually being this way, but its kinda difficult to make any case like that without going extreme into citing academic bullshit and trying to come up with a whole continuous framework or something
it's based on my reading on consciousness from neuroscientists and some more recent additions from psychologists/philosophers, and my own personal experiences with having a mind and exploring it and turning bits off and back on with drugs.
I think the most obvious and first/primal conclusion that most people who really get into this stuff is that there is no "I", it's all really a bunch of disparate functions that take inputs and give outputs to each other, and eventually your consciousness (for some reason). One great example is eyesight. You dont receive direct raw stimulus. You receive data that's been properly fucked with and distorted and added to by some function/s whose job is to do that. Your sense of textures, your peripheral vision, your sense of scale, etc. etc. are all made much more pronounced by additions from memoy and general knowledge. Sight is in huge part "hallucination". And then the thing that we feel/observe from gets the input. These two functions are separate though, the data molding part and the subjective part. So this is what i mean for machines/modules. We also have machiens that value. This value comes in the form of discriminations and desires. These desires can be hunger, tiredness, hornyness, etc. Discriminatory values choose what to listen to at any given moment. Sometimes you're hungry and tired and have to decide which to pursue. This is a base level value judgement.
I know it's probably sounding like stupid semantics or something at this point, because most people in a political mindset think of "value" as like a consciously held belief about like ought to do this or that, often applying it to other people, etc. But i see a continuum from the base level values up to the higher level, more conscious or articulable values. Another good thing to look into here is pareto's theory of residues and derivations. Often what we see and call "values" is more just a post-hoc rationalizing or setting-in-stone of something deeper and harder to access. This is one example of lower level values ascending through abstraction to become held beliefs.
But so here's what i mean when iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.1525

>>1518
>>1524

Also a sidenote: i think often we need a reason to live or justify what we do in general. This is interesting cause it poses itself as a high-level value that plugs into a low-level spot, by morally allowing action basically. But i think ultimately this is a necessary cope - the real desire that's hard to access is just to live and enjoy, but we need for some reason to give a proximal reason to it. This is why i say basically that we need spooks. We're never going to get rid of acting under the influence of irrational forces. If we get rid of the irrational forces, we lose all desire and reason to live or act. But we cant critique these things because they are too vulnerable to it and at the same time totally slippery to it. They're not able to be put under the blade of rational critique, and there is no "honest election" of choice when it comes to choosing what you value - its circular. So the best we can do is try to nurture what we see as positive meaning and value in our lives, and if we see none, then we need to somehow awaken it. And usually its various loves that do that. A love of nature, family, fellow workers, a passion project, a language, whatever. We need some kind of reason to say to us "hey, its okay to exist and make yourself happy", but without being that explicit about it. Thats exactly the unspoken part. We need something to put our libidinal energy into in order to be happy. And we need it to be irrational, and also our own "free choice" to obey this thing. It's higher powers all the way down, but thats egoism too i think, so dont get me wrong i dont see myself as against stirnoids and egoism or anything, just the basic ghostbuster mindset isnt always the cure - i read this article maybe? by Latour, known for being a big name in the critique of science, and he said that he still thinks that a lot of scientific ideas are vulnerable, but that doesnt necessarily mean we should tear them down in every way possible to see what we're left with, but rather we should nurture them. Maybe our power of critique/dismissal are too strong and dont unleash truth, or they give us a cold sort of truth like "i think therefore i am" type of useless truth, and to get anywhere good with our beliefs, we need to nurture what seems promising, and help grow our littPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.1526

>>1518
on the last point about theory, hmm
this is a fun one
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2014.00697/full
idk i havent read anything that gives these ideas all as one together, i can tell that i base my thinking though on zizek and deluze a bit, deluze mainly for framing things and language i guess, and some freud too i guess. And probably others…. and of course my own experiences
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 No.1950

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>>1467

By realizing that those spooks were installed in your consciousness by institutions that have economic and political interests in keeping you subservient to them and the mode of production that sustains them, and the people in your life who have negatively sanctioned you for not adhering to said spooks live horrid existences centered around the reproduction of capital and simply bluff to feel less bad about themselves.
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 No.1951

>>1467
Get swole


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 No.1876[Reply]

Dead
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 No.1890

>>1879
Don't know about anyone else, but I prefer sludge metal.
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 No.1891

>>1890
Don't know about anyone else, but I prefer crustgrind.
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 No.1917

>>1890
>>1891
Don't know about anyone else, but I prefer prog metal.
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 No.1920

>>1890
>>1891
>>1917
a.k.a. indiemetal
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 No.1923

>>1876
he was really fucking hot though. I'd let him do whatever he wanted to me


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 No.1371[Reply]

hello friends
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 No.1918

>>1378
No it doesn't
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 No.1919

necromancy
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 No.1921

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 No.1922

>>1371
cuet
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 No.1930

isn't this the spooky bitch that /b/ obsessed over and got on america's next top model somehow or whatever


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 No.1897[Reply]

Hello /dead/, do you have any plans for staying here or are you making your own site?
If you do plan on staying, do you wish to be displayed on the overboard?
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 No.1900

>>1899
doot doot
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 No.1905

>>1899
I'm not going to get Matrix just to find out if there's a new board in the works, but I'm willing to download Matrix to get updates on a new board in the works. Is this worth my time?
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 No.1906

>>1905
dunno bro, seems pretty fickle rn
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 No.1907

test
test
[strike]test[strike]
~test~
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 No.1916

>>1897
>do you have any plans for staying here or are you making your own site?
I obviously won't speak for /dead/ but I personally will stay here except if the majority of /dead/ would leave to a new site.
I won't use matrix, I only like imageboards.

>do you wish to be displayed on the overboard?

I think it's a good idea, it will attract new bloods but without giving to much attention on /dead/.


 No.1816[Reply]

How can you not be depressed in this world?
Everyone I’ve seen, known, or interacted with that was “positive” came off as a true fucking psychopath
Like, just utterly disconnected from the rest of mankind and all human empathy
I think non-depressives are sociopaths
Especially communists that are positive
Positive “communists” are the very worst, sociopathic pricks more obsessed with LARPing the past and little else, the world is fucking hellish and sanity is a disease
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 No.1903

>>1901
>you barely have influence – if any at all – on things outside of you
False
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
Read this pamphlet to gain the superpower of commonsense
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 No.1904

Preach. If you can function well in this society, you're fucked up.
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 No.1913

>>1902
this but its not entirely this. if you are loveless for a long time then you turn into a depressed loser, so just get a gf
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 No.1914

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I legit blame capitalism for making me this way. Being psychopathic is the only way to get by in this world.
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 No.1915

Are you an empath OP


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 No.1844[Reply]

Oh God oh Fuck I genuinely thought we were going to get stuck on bunker, glad we are back here
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 No.1848

>>1844
I have a bad feeling that we're going to hemorrhage users in ways that other boards won't, since it's damn hard to get new users. Better slow than too fast, at least.
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 No.1892

>>1844
Yeah but /dead/ is still a hidden board.
At least, it keeps tankies, socdems and redlibs away but it will be hard to get new posters that way.
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 No.1893

>>1892
You guys appear on the overboard catalog, at least thats how I found this thread.
I assume most people are using the overboard catalog too, so you guys will have new posters coming in
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 No.1894

>>1893
/dead/ posts did appear on overboard back in Flunkerchan too IIRC.
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 No.1895

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Personally I don't know if I support the creation of a new website, it is much comfier to lurk here. Any new developments from the matrix room?


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 No.1877[Reply]

Hello? Ded?
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 No.1878

rip
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 No.1889

>>1877
Join the matrix, idk. Nobody's still hanging around here, but we don't have a new site yet.


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 No.1857[Reply]

#graveyard:matrix.skeletoncrew.xyz
+yarr:matrix.skeletoncrew.xyz

fuck this place if the jannies want to delete our board, we're talking about alternatives, making a new site. n1x is there but not talking right now, would be nice if they wanna take head of the project for a new /dead/site of some kind, come talk alternatives with us
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 No.1884

>every board is nuked
>/dead/ takes it personally
Bye bye faggots.
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 No.1885

>>1884
>/dead/ is a person
commie brainrot
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 No.1886

>>1885
/dead/ is people, yes. Retard.
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 No.1887

>>1886
more reductionism, how expected of marxists kek
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 No.1888

>>1883
its a community
it can have multiple rooms in it, and have an html description
sort of just a hub linking together different places and where you can find other shit related to a room


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 No.1606[Reply]

Why doesnt /dead/ have a masquot/catgirl?
We should have a catgirl!
Any ideas?
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 No.1819

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A date with /dead/-tan.
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 No.1823

>>1819
this is so spooky why didn't you spoiler this ;_;
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 No.1832

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>>1718
Shit idea, but sure, here, I dredged up a good starting point, now someone shoop it up to align with the /dead/ aesthetics we all know and hate.
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 No.1859

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>>1606
There's an egoist catgirl
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 No.1860

test


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 No.364[Reply]

ITT: we discuss the Anarchist Library, good texts found on it and ways we can help the library.https://theanarchistlibrary.org/For example, did you know that you can easily edit the texts on the site? It's the pencil icon in the infobox. While reading I take notes of the obvious scanning errors and correct the text when I am finished.
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 No.1815

>>1811
join the discussion, don't just read it
prolle strolle in words with me
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 No.1817

>>1814
It was very rambly, but I think I do. It's true that we shouldn't focus really on "free will" vs "determinism", at least until we answer what does "self" even mean.
>ike it decides how to mediate the various residues, the output of the myriad desiring machines
This part especially speaks to me deeply. We aren't just "our brain", we are our guts (who also might mediate the decision making), hearts (same), microbiota (which has huge impact on brain. I can't underplay that, it influences how Alzheimer, etc develops), and so on and so on.
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 No.1852

Hey, do we have a single jannie right now? We need someone to re-pin this thread, and the rules thread too.
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 No.1853

>>1852
Just asked on /meta/ wait a little
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 No.1855

>>1852
This thread was never stickied tho


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