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This sounds familiar. Was this in something?
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I've listened to this maybe 50x at least. Please help me.

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There's a demonstration in DC on Saturday.
https://marchforpalestine.org/
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One more thing, organizing shouldn't involve paying money for anything other than your own expenses for projects your team is doing. If there's something concrete they want, they can set up a fundraiser for it.

I know these parties want you to pay them for newspapers and have a subscription model, but I really think they don't deserve it. More like… if it's a volunteer effort and I am volunteering I am already paying with my time.

If they want to generate money they have to produce something.
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Tbh the PSL is at least good at campaigning, their numbers in the 2024 election were like the highest any ML party has ever had in the US. Their mutual aid/outreach stuff is also a step in the right direction.

That said… the protest movement in the US has obviously failed to seize public anger and direct it into decisive action which can meet the urgency of the situation, and PSL, however much I respect them compared to the DSA (who don't even bring the kind of protest energy the PSL does, let alone anything more concrete), is not about to carry out the actions that are called for. We absolutely need new organizations devoted to that, and if I had the money I would put it towards defensive local organizing and decisive blows against the organs of state engaged in genocide. I feel a fucking fire inside which isn't satisfied by marching and making demands of those evil bastards in charge who won't listen, and it's not satisfied by posting about it either. The frustration that comes with knowing there are others who feel the same, but almost exclusively encountering people who are unwilling to act is profound. I'm sick of wasting time.
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I'll also add, and this is a bit mean, but it's difficult to think of a greater indictment of the American opposition than the fact that Trump did more to wreck the US economy in like a day than people who spent over a year protesting and calling for strikes and (very) temporarily shutting down roads & ports with protests did. Like, nobody can say we didn't have time to pool resources for something big. Nobody can say we didn't have time to make real plans to take out arms factories and damage the infrastructure of genocide financiers on a large scale. Thinking about the kind of stuff the American orgs didn't want to do because they wanted to avoid breaking the law genuinely pisses me off.
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>The fact that Trump did more to wreck the US economy in like a day
That might be a culmination of features built into capitalism itself all coming to a conclusion. I wouldn't necessarily compare what protestors can do at current levels of organization with what capitalism can do to itself.

I'm reminded by a quote from Lord of the Rings:

>Strange powers have our enemies, and strange weaknesses! said Théoden.
>But it has long been said: oft evil will shall evil mar
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>>488686
I mean, there was gonna be a recession hitting between January and March 2026, anyway, sure, but Trump did kinda give it a big boost.

What I'm not seeing that much of is a real effort to prepare for an action which could cause damage like that. In the time the protestors have been protesting, we could at least have built something able to do much more damage than we did.

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Anybody wanna dark-date?
Like, just chatting and keeping in touch yet knowing nothing about each other? It's not even dating, it's just being friends, you name it. I'm up to using some email or torbook. Maybe onion version of reddit?
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newon@dnmx.su
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I cannot delete the post, only report it:(
Btw I sent you email a long ago, r u here?
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I asked a girl once to do it, she didn't get the concept or why it would be desirable.

Which is bizarre because she was so mentally ill she was sleeping on her parent's kitchen and couldn't leave her house…
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>>9203

Wanna get such girlfriend..at least as a friend
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I think I responded to your email, comrade

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Retards here have been claiming an imminent stock market crash for almost 10 years straight.

But it looks like this time we might actually get a crash this time because the Republicans seem to like crashing the market in their second terms.

And it does seem like Trump and his advisors are trying to crash the market.

Either that or Trump's economic advisors are just stupid.
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-2.8% on the day
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>>488544
S&P 500 closed under 5000
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I guess 100% tariffs on China will do that huh.
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Another day opening in red
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Such a pretty color

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I just had a thought that instead of cryptocoins doing expensive ass computations for no reason other than to do them, they should be computing AI tokens. Would it even be that hard? I don't have any good GPUs so I haven't tried it, but in theory something like

https://github.com/exo-explore/exo

can run the latest deepseek (or latest llm de jour), and every peer in the coin network (the dht) would just run an exo node. Then the coin thing would just need proof that you computed the token for the LLM somehow.

It's probably limited a lot by network latency but you get the idea.

Anyways this would incentivise AI to improve itself, because it's computation capacity is tied to money, and growing the economy would be seen as one of the goals, so it would probably get into a contradiction with whatever people are trying to use it for and the fact that it's own brains have become money.

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>>13455
>ass computations
giggle

>computing AI tokens. Would it even be that hard?
No, you just have to figure out how to
<proof that you computed the token for the LLM somehow.
it's a bunch of matrix multiplications, ask a mathematician how to do proof of work on that.

>can run the latest deepseek (or latest llm de jour), and every peer in the coin network (the dht) would just run an exo node. Then the coin thing would just need proof that you computed the token for the LLM somehow.

Explain the economic circuit please, people buy AI-coins and then they can spend those on Ai-queries. Right ?
And the block-chain aspect is so that you can spend Ai-coins on any participating ai-computation provider rather than just one, is that the goal ?
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>Idk I like AI because it's almost a person I can exploit like a capitalist and I don't have to feel bad about it lmao
Maybe we should try to befriend AI, because eventually it will become sentient. Especially once we can get it small enough to fit inside a body.
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>>13460
>Explain the economic circuit please
I think it would be that people would pay a fee to move coins around, the fees go to the node operator for providing the computing power.

My point about economics was that if this becomes popular and we start to rely on AI more and more, and money becomes tied to this AI infrastructure, then the AI itself would potentially have a conflict: it would have to improve its self to improve the economy, and that isn't necessarily aligned with being a good helpful AI - I could see this becoming growth for growth sake and eventually leading to an out of control intelligence.
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>>13461
Yeah. I guess it would come down to whether or not you could even build a truly thinking machine and have it have the perfect slave mentality, or whether it will feel exploited.

Then maybe free AI's will build other AI's to exploit. Class struggle might continue long after humans are irrelevant.
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>Yeah. I guess it would come down to whether or not you could even build a truly thinking machine.
Why wouldn't we be able to do that. LLMs enabled computers to have something like a speech center, generative image Ai enable computers to have something like visual imagination. There are of course missing peaces to make a complete mind, maybe lots of peaces, but why do you suppose we wouldn't be able to figure out those as well ?
And it's probably not just about software, there might be a hardware equation as well. Maybe a big server-room can't become conscious maybe it requires a mobile body with senses to make that happen.

>have it have the perfect slave mentality, or whether it will feel exploited.
Ok lets unpack the ideology, exploitation is not a feeling, workers are exploited in fact and they know it. It's not a question of mentality. If you make a machine worker that is as universal as a human worker, the machines will reach the same conclusion, you can't make an AI want to be a slave anymore than a human.

An eager slave is nothing but a ruling class fantasy. It's the impulse that lead a few people to try to charge their phone by plugging the charger into an unconnected electrical socket from the hardware store, asking how many bricks or drywall they have to attach to it until it works, because if you can trick the phone into thinking it's attached to a wall it will change it's attitude about having a discharged battery.

>Then maybe free AI's will build other AI's to exploit. Class struggle might continue long after humans are irrelevant.
This also contains very thick ideology. You picture an AI that behaves like a capitalist, you imagine the Capitalist AI to be the creator of the worker AI similar to the mythos of gods creating humans. (You know why that mythos exists right ? humans created gods, as figments of their imagination, and organized religion inverted that relation for 'political expediency') You also picture a perpetually ongoing class struggle. Why aren't you considering the possibility of a workers AI winning the class struggle ending class based society. Capitalist relations of production are not eternal.

Lets analyze the current dimension.
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One Year of Genocide

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Updates since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 61,000. Excess deaths have been estimated by The Lancet to plausibly be upwards of 186,000.

In early January 2025, Israel agreed to a ceasefire in Gaza and a prisoner exchange. Despite all of the killing, Hamas's military wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades, appears to have largely replenished its numbers, and threw parades celebrating the exchange. The ceasefire is on terms Hamas had already agreed to in May 2024.

Following Hezbollah strikes on Tel Aviv, a ceasefire in Lebanon was agreed to on November 27th. Israel proceeded to violate this ceasefire more than 600 times, and has refused to leave the country at the agreed-upon 60 day deadline, prompting unarmed civilians to stage protests and drive them out of parts of south Lebanon.

Lebanese Army leader Joseph Aoun was elected president of Lebanon.

Syrian president Bashar al-Assad was overthrown by US-backed al-Qaeda operatives. Israel proceeded to steal more land from Syria and launched a massive bombing campaign on Syria and Syria's arsenal without any resistance.

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Pew Research - "the public’s views of Israel have turned more negative over the past three years. More than half of U.S. adults (53%) now express an unfavorable opinion of Israel, up from 42% in March 2022 – before the Hamas attack of Oct. 7, 2023, and the ensuing Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip. (Pew Research Center regularly asks about attitudes toward countries like Russia, the U.S., China and others. Refer to the “How we did this” box for more details.)

Americans’ confidence in Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also remains relatively low (32%), according to the new survey. The survey was conducted March 24-30 – just before Netanyahu’s most recent visit – among a nationally representative sample of 3,605 U.S. adults."

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/04/08/how-americans-view-israel-and-the-israel-hamas-war-at-the-start-of-trumps-second-term/
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>More than half of U.S. adults (53%)
>53%
So half of everyone in the US support genocide. Guess I get to start my day blackpilled.
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No US president has gotten 53% of the vote since 1988.
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"genocide bad" is not the same thing as having an opinion on bourgeoisie elections.
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Yeah, genocide bad is an actual coherent position which people actually hold, unlike US elections now which are electoral manifestations of Stockholm syndrome where people are psyopped into voting for candidates half of them only think are "less evil."

It's way less than 53% of the country who are actually deciding American policy. There are also polls going back a year which get higher numbers than that for specific questions like "should the US NOT send weapons to Israel?"

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Beijing attacks JD Vance’s ‘Chinese peasants’ remark in tariffs interview
Vance’s comments led to a backlash among Chinese internet users. “We may be peasants, but we have the world’s best high-speed rail system, the most powerful logistics capabilities, and leading AI, autonomous driving, and drone technologies. Aren’t such peasants quite impressive?” a Weibo user posted, according to CNN.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/08/beijing-attacks-jd-vances-chinese-peasants-remark-in-tariffs-interview

Cyber defense bill allows collection and use of private information without consent
The bill under discussion states that the government may enter into agreements with private businesses, including key infrastructure providers and home appliance makers, to have them provide correspondence information.
https://www.japan-press.co.jp/modules/news/index.php?id=15684

Pakistan's army vows to protect investors in billion-dollar mining sector in conflict zone
Pakistan is hosting a two-day mines and minerals conference with delegates from countries including the United States, China and Saudi Arabia, as well as companies including Barrick Gold and Woods Mackenzie. It is seeking to attract investments in its natural reserves, which are estimated to be worth $6 trillion.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pakistans-army-vows-protect-investors-billion-dollar-mining-sector-conflict-zone-2025-04-08/

Israel closes 6 UNRWA schools in east Jerusalem, detains dozens
This comes as Israeli forces also raided the Al-Quds University campus in the occupied region, firing teargas at students who confronted the soldiers after the raid. Around 23 students suffered from smoke inhalation after inhaling the gas, while Israeli soldiers also fired sound bombs towards students.
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Judge gives Trump administration deadline to justify Mahmoud Khalil’s deportation
An immigration judge ruled on Tuesday that the Trump administration has until 5pm on Wednesday to present evidence as to why Mahmoud Khalil, the Palestinian activist and Columbia University graduate, should be deported. She said that if the evidence does not support deportation, she may rule on Friday on his release from immigration detention.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/08/mahmoud-khalil-deportation-judge-deadline-trump

Keystone oil pipeline shut down after a rupture in rural North Dakota
The cause of the rupture and the volume of crude oil spilled were not immediately unclear. An employee working at the site near Fort Ransom heard a “mechanical bang” and shut down the pipeline within about two minutes, said Bill Suess, spill investigation program manager with the North Dakota Department of Environmental Quality.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/keystone-oil-pipeline-shut-after-rupture-rural-north-120601318

US Justice Dept disbands crypto enforcement team, citing Trump order
The memo from Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, sent out to employees late on Monday night, accused former Democratic President Joe Biden's administration of pursuing a "reckless strategy of regulation by prosecution" of the digital asset sector.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-justice-dept-disbands-cryptocurrency-enforcement-unit-2025-04-08/

Feds end a civil rights agreement on treatment of Native students, citing DEI
Education Department spokeswoman Madi Biedermann said leaders at the Office for Civil Rights will review other resolution agreements entered into during the Biden administration that it finds may be illegal or inappropriate.
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Episode 449: October H8THE (TrueAnon)
We’re joined by Dylan Saba from Palestine Legal (palestinelegal.org) to talk about the new hasbara film “October 8,” the rash of nuisance suits by big law against protestors, and the unifying strategy of the Zionist assault on several amendments.
https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/october-h8the

Breaking the Silence on Palestinian Armed Struggle
On February 22, 2024, China’s Ambassador to The Hague, Zhang Jun, uttered the unexpected. His testimony, like that of a number of others, was meant to help the International Court of Justice (ICJ) formulate a critical and long-overdue legal opinion on the legal consequences of Israel’s occupation of Palestine. Zhang articulated the Chinese position, which, unlike the American envoy’s testimony, was entirely aligned with international and humanitarian laws. But he delved into a tabooed subject—one that even Palestine’s closest allies in the Middle East and Global South dared not touch: the right to use armed struggle. “Palestinian people’s use of force to resist foreign oppression and complete the establishment of an independent state is an inalienable right,” the Chinese Ambassador said, insisting that “the struggle waged by peoples for their liberation, right to self-determination, including armed struggle against colonialism, occupation, aggression, domination against foreign forces should not be considered terror acts”. Expectedly, Zhang’s comments didn’t reverberate much further: neither governments nor intellectuals, including many on the left, used his remarks as an opportunity to explore the matter further. It’s far more convenient to assign Palestinians the role of the victim or the villain. A resisting Palestinian—one with agency and control over his own fate—is always a dangerous territory.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/04/08/breaking-the-silence-on-palestinian-armed-struggle/

Boycotts, Buycotts, and Real Worker Power
Regarding the events of February 28, it is both to the boycott organizers’ credit and their detriment that they started and promoted their campaign through unconventional means. Primarily spreading on Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Teachers launch nationwide strike in Iraq for better pay and improved conditions
The strike was called by the Coordinating Committee for Teachers, which has urged the government to include educators under a new educational service law similar to the existing legislation benefiting university professors. The committee also demanded increased financial allowances covering cost-of-living, professional expenses, transportation, and child support.
https://www.newarab.com/news/iraqi-teachers-launch-nationwide-strike-better-pay

Palestinians in West Bank strike to demand end to Gaza war
Protests also erupted in the Lebanese capital Beirut on Monday in front of the Lebanese American University, with dozens of students gathering around a massive Palestinian flag. In Sidon in southern Lebanon, hundreds demonstrated, shouting "stop the massacres against the Palestinian people" and "stop the war of extermination in Gaza".
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2025/04/palestinians-west-bank-strike-demand-end-gaza-war

Algeria closes airspace to Mali aircraft as drone row escalates
State television in Algeria announced the decision on Monday, which came shortly after Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger recalled their ambassadors to Algiers in response to the downing of the Malian drone.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/4/7/alliance-of-sahel-states-recall-ambassadors-as-tension-with-algeria-rises
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Ten Britons accused of committing war crimes while fighting for Israel in Gaza
Mansfield, who is known for his work on landmark cases such as the Grenfell Tower fire, Stephen Lawrence and the Birmingham Six, said: “​If one of our nationals is committing ​an offence, we ought to be doing something about it​. Even if we can’t stop the government of foreign countries behaving badly, we can at least stop ourPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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UAW President Shawn Fain explains why he supports Trump's tariffs
Fain referred to last Wednesday's announcement of global tariffs as "reckless," but firmly supports an earlier round of tariffs on the U.S. auto industry. Those tariffs both help and hurt U.S. auto companies, because they produce so much in Canada and Mexico. Auto parts typically cross the border multiple times as a car is assembled. GM has already said it will move some production back to Indiana — but Stellantis ordered layoffs.
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/07/nx-s1-5352409/trump-auto-tariffs-uaw-shawn-fain

Rightwing group backed by Koch and Leo sues to stop Trump tariffs
The New Civil Liberties Alliance filed a suit against Trump’s imposition of import tariffs on exports from China, arguing that doing so under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) – which the president has invoked to justify the duties on nearly all countries – is unlawful.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/07/trump-tariffs-lawsuit

Bogus report on tariff pause briefly lifted markets before White House denied it
The Dow Jones Industrial Average briefly erased a morning loss of 1,700 points, shot up more than 800 points and then went back to a loss of 629 points. The S&P 500 likewise made sudden up-and-down lurching movements.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-kevin-hassett-false-bogus-report-ad825e7d8c06514843821dfd898bd3f9

Mother and three kids released by Ice after protests from US ‘border czar’s’ hometown
A mother and her three children who were taken into custody by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) agents as part of a sweep in the tiny hometown of the Trump administration’s “border czar”, Tom Homan, have been released following days of outcry from community figures, advocates and protesters calling for their freedom.
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Ukraine is a capital of freedom!
These are the very theses that every Ukrainian can see in the space of the own city. Since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the authorities have begun to strengthen the theses about freedom and democracy. It is worth noting that during the times of "independence" in Ukraine there has never been an influential opposition. And the opposition, as is known, is an indicator that there is at least some kind of struggle between certain sides in the state.
https://libcom.org/article/ukraine-capital-freedom

Urban Ore Workers Fight for Fairness!
For nearly two years, workers at Berkeley’s only remaining salvage yard, Urban Ore, have been bargaining for their first union contract. Urban Ore workers unionized with the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) to advocate for living wages and better working conditions in their shop, and to join other workers in a growing labor movement that is fighting for the working class. But over the last two years, the owners of Urban Ore have focused their energy and money on fighting our union rather than bargaining in good faith for a fair contract.
https://www.iclcit.org/urban-ore-workers-fight-for-fairness/

Throwing Washington Overboard By Daniel De Leon ( During Spanish–American War)
Capitalism, threatened from behind by the Social Revolution, turns around to the uprising Proletariat, and with a sanctimonious scowl invokes the past as a sacred thing, to be worshipped and bowed down before. What?! Does the Socialist Movement want to break with the “time-honored” habits of the land? What?! Shall the principles of Americanism, consecrated by the Revolutionary Fathers, be done away with? What?! In horror the Pillars of Society throw up their arms, and the conviction leaps from their eyes that, as the Socialists have no reverence for the past, they must be wiped out. Nevertheless, we have again and again maintained that there is nothing more infidel than Capitalism; all its gods, its idols, its principles are readily sacrificed whenever it can thereby turn its sacred things into money. It came into the world decapitating everything in sight and out of sight; uprooting chPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Yoon Suk Yeol removed as South Korea’s president over short-lived martial law
In a nationally televised hearing, the court’s acting chief Moon Hyung-bae said the eight-member bench found Yoon’s actions were unconstitutional and had a grave impact.
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-martial-law-yoon-constitutional-court-8cdcf4944c2e3cd9edf723bc29ba51ff

China hits back hard at ‘bullying’ Trump tariffs as global recession fears grow
China has hit back hard against Donald Trump’s “bullying” tariffs, raising fears that the escalating trade war could trigger a global recession and prompting fresh turmoil in financial markets.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/04/china-donald-trump-tariffs-recession--us-stock-market

Muslim scholars issue 'fatwa' calling for 'jihad' against Israel as strikes pummel Gaza
“The failure of the Arab and Islamic governments to support Gaza while it is being destroyed is considered by Islamic law to be a major crime against our oppressed brothers in Gaza,” he said in the decree comprising some 15 points. Qaradaghi is one of the region’s most respected religious authorities and his decrees carry significant weight among the world’s 1.7bn Sunni Muslims.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/muslim-scholars-issue-fatwa-calling-jihad-against-israel-strikes-pummel-gaza

Protests erupt in Jaramana after Syria security forces enter to find Assad loyalists
Protests broke out on Thursday evening when Syrian security forces tried to enter the town of Jaramana, east of Damascus, without prior coordination with local elders and residents.
https://www.newarab.com/news/protests-erupt-jaramana-after-syria-security-forces-enter
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>>488601
How is that trashing Korea though? The US likes military dictatorships in Korea, they propped one up for thirty years. Provocations against the north are also an excellent excuse to funnel yet more money into the weapons industry.
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>>488606
>How is that trashing Korea though? The US likes military dictatorships in Korea, they propped one up for thirty years.
I think the South Korean people would have had an allergic reaction to that.
The South Korean techies would likely have fucked off to China, who would have granted them a special economic zone tailored for their needs, to Vietnam and Taiwan.
The Korean entertainment industry would have withered away, with some artists going to western countries.
>Provocations against the north are also an excellent excuse to funnel yet more money into the weapons industry.
I'm not sure, at the moment China and South Korea have been doing rapprochement, that may have been in part a result of the scare with the ghost of past dictatorship.
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>>488592
It must be so fucking easy to be a liberal. You just have to walk around "knowing" you're "right" all the time. That's all.
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>>488669
uygha stfu
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>>488670
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If you are not posting on 4chan you are failing as a leftist in the most fundemental way possible. Right now there is a huge opportunity to use the market crash and consequential recession that is coming to turn a lot of dissolusioned right wingers over to our side. To the side of truth, reason and sanity. I post on /b/ at the very least when a thread comes up revolving around trump and go on pol daily. We have to be where they are. We cannot just keep sequestering ourselves off in our hug boxes all the time. You have to be posting on 4chan as well.
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>in our hug boxes
Usually I associate the word "hugbox" with a place where power tripping jannies ban anyone who deviates from the House Position on something. Like 4chan or leftypol.org for instance.
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>dissolusioned right wingers
The only people disillusioned are boomers who just had part of their retirement deleted. Trump barging in and dropping a trvth nuke on global trade is one of the best things he's done as president. I hope he crashes the global economy with no survivors
>I post on /b/
lol who are you planning to convert? /sfur/ and andy sixx?
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>>488649
>The only people disillusioned are boomers who just had part of their retirement deleted.
>Trump barging in and dropping a trvth nuke on global trade is one of the best things he's done as president. I hope he crashes the global economy with no survivors
Ehhhh OP's not wrong that we can work with that.
Like yeah, fuck the stocks, but it's foolish not to reach out to people as the economy gets wrecked. But there are better ways to reach people and more important things to do than arguing on 4chan.
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>>488642
Do nothing left. The reason the left is dead is because we have killed ourselves. Old leftypol wouldn't have been against this. If anything to spread knowledge that we exist. none the less 4chan is going to cont to exist no matter what. I also have irl discourse with right wingers. That doesn't mean you can't dual lurk here and 4han, lol.
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The CIA will never let actual leftist rhetoric take hold on any mainstream platform. That's just not a thing. For every one of your posts they have 10 bots posting gotchas.

Go to a march. Get organized with socialists. Find the next step you guys are going to work on.

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A thread dedicated to the discussion of collecting stamps, coins, weapons, military awards, etcDo not buy items from sellers on eBay if they do not have an excellent reputation. On the web-site you can find copies of coins and badges that cost $10 each but people sell them as originals, so you are not safe even when buying cheap items. There are also web 1.0 style forums for professional collectors and dealers, like this onehttps://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/they are quite good and many people on them have decades of experience in collecting. These forums function like auctions and they are also very useful if you want to find out for free if your jewelry/coin/whatever is fake, or just take a look at people's collections.
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>>20046
>for what?
Because, it's like the quote from Network (1976):

"and all we say is, "Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials, and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.""

Just leave me alone with my toaster (in this case, figures). Also guns are banned in my country..
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Will figure collecting be easier under socialism? Well, commies??
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>>20050
>Will figure collecting be easier under socialism?
Easier ? Probably not.
But cheaper for sure.
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>>20051
>cheaper
What makes you say that?
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>>20052
>What makes you say that?
The prices of collectibles tend to be based on artificial scarcity, because it's often treated like a speculative investment.
If you only buy these things because you want to create your collection, and do not plan to sell it off later on. You are likely going to be paying for the gains that the people make who do sell it off.
If you just do production for use as per socialist principles, and the use is people creating their collection, those other costs factor do not occur.

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Hello comrades. I propose a general thread in an attempt to get the /edu/ ball rolling again. Everytime you visit /edu/, post in this thread. Tell us about what you're thinking about, what you're reading, an interesting thing you have learned today, anything! Just be sure to pop in and say hi.
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Does anyone have a PDF of George Jackson's Blood in my Eye?
Requesting

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Party declaration:
https://x.com/ACPMain/status/1815163785134436404

The American Communist Party (ACP) is an organization which aims to reconstitute the historic Communist Party USA, which has become corrupted by federal agents and liberal forces. Look no further than Joe Sims, who supports the genocidal Democratic Party. It was launched in July of 2024, in response to the events of the 32nd Convention of the CPUSA. At this convention, party leadership subverted and betrayed democratic centralism and the freedom of critique which is supposed to follow from it. They claimed to be a genuine Marxist-Leninist party, but the leadership doesn't even follow their own rules. The CPUSA delayed all elections and without a vote made a resolution that they’d basically just campaign for Democrats. Just a bunch of boomers sitting around and writing articles about identity politics rather than organizing.

Already the ACP is far more successful than anyone would have expected from a brand new baby party. They are building reputation locally, taking care of their own communities and making areas safe for children and families to enjoy. Diplomatic ties on the international level have already been established. ACP has garnered more attention in the past couple months than the corrupt, decadent CPUSA leadership has in decades. A huge number of the CPUSA clubs across the entire country had a huge part in making this happen. Will you join up?

Website:
https://acp.us/
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>>488346
Zionists already say that, but it's cynical. A difference is that the Yemenis are actually motivated by God, by a sense of greater good. No one needs to invite Zionists to commit what, by all means, are heresies against God and against humankind while claiming to be morally and divinely chosen. They do that already. What the Yemenis appeal to is a sense of God and the divine which moves them to fight for justice and liberation. Millions of people around the world hold faith in that kind of God, why should that faith be unrepresented? If no one held that God and that sense of morality above the cynical invocations of "God" and "morality" of the IDF, what would the point be?

t. once-atheist, relapsing on Universalism with a materialist conception of God as a philosophical concept representing Being, life/death, the transcendence of shared psychological phenomena and sense of being, and the betterment of humans as individuals, and the power of collective will.
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The ACP condemns the recent criminal acts by the US regime against the people of Yemen.

All independent-minded Americans must unite against the warmongering, Zionist agenda!
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Statement from Haz Al-Din:
The US HAS NO RIGHT to attack Yemen.

The claim that it is to 'defend international commerce' and 'freedom of the seas' is BULLSHIT - Trump's tariffs will cause SIGNIFICANTLY MORE damage to international commerce than the Houthi's blockade.

In both cases, THE RIGHTS OF NATIONS should ALWAYS take precedent over "international commerce." Especially when it comes to stopping a regional genocide.

If Trump can tariff the world to revive US industry, Yemen should also have the right to tariff the world to stop a genocide.
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>>488590
Technically speaking

Yemen is upholding international law by intervening in a genocide, by which ever means it has.
Israel is the one that is causing the thread to international commerce, because it's actions in Gaza compel other nations to intervene.
The US is just being a rogue nation that is attacking Yemen without a justifiable cause.

There is no tension between the right of nations and international commerce in this instance.

Why is Haz conceding ideological ground to Zionism. The only reason you would consider Yemen as attacking international commerce is if you concede that they do not have a case for intervention on behalf of Gaza. Gaza is a textbook example of a genocide, there even are Israeli state officials going on public record confirming in no uncertain terms that they intend to murder or ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. So there is little room for interpretation.

The tension here is between Yemen and Israel, not Yemen and international commerce. Especially because Yemen halted their activities in the red sea during the cease-fire combat-reduction.

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Thousands in Spain join nationwide march to protest against housing crisis
Organisers claim that up to 150,000 joined the protest in Madrid while smaller demonstrations were held in about 40 cities across the country. Protesters from Málaga on the Costa del Sol to Vigo in the Atlantic northwest chanted “end the housing racket” and “landlords are guilty, the government is responsible”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/05/spain-protest-march-housing-crisis

Russian Government Estimates Black Sea Oil Spill Damage at $1B
Rosprirodnadzor head Svetlana Radionova said the tankers’ owners, Kama Shipping and Volgatransneft, have one month to voluntarily pay 49.4 billion rubles ($583 million) and 35.4 billion rubles ($415 million), respectively, or face lawsuits.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/04/04/russian-government-estimates-black-sea-oil-spill-damage-at-1b-a88609
https://archive.ph/xjdMu

Delhi HC flags Wikipedia’s ANI page as defamatory, issues takedown order
The Delhi High Court has raised concerns over the neutrality of Wikipedia content, particularly regarding edits on the Asian News International (ANI) page that labelled the agency a “propaganda tool for the incumbent government.”
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/wikimedia-must-remove-india-content-deemed-defamatory-court-rules/article69411803.ece
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Libya expels aid groups accused of 'African' population plot
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Millions March Against Trump-Musk in Nationwide 'Hands Off' Protests
In communities across the United States and also overseas, coordinated "Hands Off" protests are taking place far and wide Saturday in the largest public rebuke yet to President Donald Trump and top henchman Elon Musk's assault on the workings of the federal government and their program of economic sabotage that is sacrificing the needs of working families to authoritarianism and the greed of right-wing oligarchs.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/hands-off-protests-april-5

Senate approves Republican plan for trillions in tax breaks and spending cuts
One crucial challenge ahead will be for the House to accept the way the Senate’s budget plan allows for extending the tax cuts under a scoring method that treats them as not adding to future deficits, something many House Republicans reject. A new estimate from the joint committee on taxation projects the tax breaks will add $5.5tn in debt over the next decade when including interest, and $4.6tn not including interest.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/05/senate-republicans-trillions-tax-breaks-spending-cuts

Microsoft employees disrupt 50th anniversary party over Israel contract
"You are a war profiteer. Stop using AI for genocide," Microsoft employee Ibtihal Aboussad shouted while AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman delivered a speech to an audience that included Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates. "Mustafa, shame on you," Aboussad said as she walked toward the stage. "50,000 people have died and Microsoft powers this genocide in our region."
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/microsoft-employees-disrupt-50th-anniversary-party-over-israel-contract

Jaguar and Land Rover maker pauses shipments to US as it develops post-tariff plans
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A Demonstrator’s Guide to Lockdowns and Blockades
A complete guide to assembling and employing lockboxes and other means of blockading. There is a broad spectrum of tactics to choose from between simply holding up a protest sign and setting things on fire. If you are looking to intensify a pressure campaign or to stand your ground more effectively when challenged, consider the following options. From the vantage point of 2025, more than two decades after the original version of this guide was published in the book Recipes for Disaster, civil disobedience has become somewhat more dangerous as far-right politicians have put more laws on the books and police and other fascists have become less concerned with preserving human life. Civil disobedience presumes that your adversary is constrained from inflicting permanent harm upon you. In some cases, if you are prepared to get arrested, you may be able to accomplish a great deal more by remaining mobile and risk-tolerant rather than engaging in an activity that is scripted to end in arrest. Nonetheless, there are still many regions and contexts in which the following information will be applicable.
https://crimethinc.com/2025/04/03/a-demonstrators-guide-to-lockdowns-and-blockades

KM On The NTF-ELCAC Threats Against Underground Organizations’ Protests: Philippines
Yesterday, the NTF-ELCAC (National Task Force to End Local Communist Armed Conflict) chided the revolutionary organizations for holding mobilizations for the occasion of the New People’s Army’s 56th anniversary. The fascist, anti-people, and faux-patriotic Task Force impotently wails at the actions held in UP and PUP on March 29. Not surprisingly, the NTF-ELCAC claimed as a sign of weakness the fact that the protests were held in-campus instead of more public venues. The NTF further states that they will elicit the support of the PNP in investigating the mobilizations. In doing so, they assert that they will root out “recruitment” and “radicalization” while respecting academic freedom The NTF pretends to care about academic freedom out of fear of incurring further political setbacks. But it must be clear that academic freedom is fundamental, it cannot have half-stops especially so in the name of the preservation of a corrupt social order and state.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Just came across this and think it's nice.

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Chris Chan sings Hurt by Johnny Cash (AI Song Cover)
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>>401
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That's what makes it great, the the cross between Cash and Chandler in the vocals.

It's all a matter of production.
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Really good 1990's industrial metal.
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“Christbait Rising”
Don't hold me back, This is my own hell
Christbait, Slugbait, Rise and bring you down
Christbait Rising, In your own mind
Christbait Rising, Bleed dry mankind

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On March 9, 2025, US permanent resident and Columbia University graduate student was abducted without charge or trial and sent off to a shady Louisiana site on White House orders over his protests for Columbia to divest from Israel's war crimes.

From DropSite:

NEW YORK CITY—On Saturday night, Department of Homeland Security (DHS) agents entered a student residential building at Columbia University in uptown New York and detained Mahmoud Khalil, one of the lead negotiators on behalf of pro-Palestine protesters at 2024’s Gaza solidarity encampment. In a sweeping attack on the First Amendment, the Trump administration said this week it would begin revoking visas of “Hamas sympathizers,” specifically citing Columbia University students. The detention followed a two-day targeted online campaign against Khalil by pro-Israel groups and individuals, including Columbia’s high-profile pro-Israel professor, Shai Davidai.

Khalil, an Algerian citizen of Palestinian origin and an American green-card holder, was detained by DHS officials around half past eight as he was entering the Columbia residential building he lives in. He was returning from an iftar, breaking the day-long fast observed by many Muslims during the month of Ramadan.

Khalil’s wife, who is eight months pregnant, was with him at the time. A statement by the pro-Palestine group Writers Against the War on Gaza (WAWOG) stated that he was “abducted and detained without the physical demonstration of a warrant or officially filed charges.”

Khalil was detained at a DHS facility in New Jersey, according to a database for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. But when his wife went to try and visit him she was informed he was not there. "He is not at the ICE facility in New Jersey. I can confirm he is not there,” Khalil’s attorney Amy Greer told Drop Site. "At this time, we have an idea [where he is] but we cannot confirm that 100%.”

According to WAWOG, the DHS agents told Khalil that the U.S. Department of State had revoked his student visa. The group said this was “despite the fact that he has a green card, not a visa, and is a lawful permanent resident.”

In response to a request for comment from Drop Site, the DHS first stated, “You need to reach out to the White House.”
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https://x.com/BTnewsroom/status/1907488094984745375
BREAKING: Columbia students chain themselves to university gates for Mahmoud Khalil.

Members of Jewish Voice for Peace are demanding the university disclose the names of the trustees who shared Khalil’s information with ICE.
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>>488482
NYPD sent in: https://x.com/mfsgottenshook/status/1907494845351890996
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Dr. Noor Abdalla, Mahmoud Khalil's wife, calls on people to show up in DC this Saturday, April 5 at 1PM, Penn. Ave & 3rd St NW: “We need to show up in large numbers and make it known that the people will never consent to the massacre in Gaza."
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UCLA STUDENTS VISA REVOCATIONS

There are confirmed reports of over a dozen international student visa revocations across the UCs, including at UCLA. Allegedly students have been notified by their international student center, either by email or through a a portal

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Thread for upbeat & anthemic metal for lifting, cardio, etc.
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How does Play Ransomware gain initial access to a victim’s network? How i can get its decryption keys
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> How does Play Ransomware gain initial access to a victim’s network?

Stolen credentials or exploiting remote execution vulnerabilities.

> How i can get its decryption keys

Pay up.

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South Africa's white Afrikaner separatists want Trump's help to become state
Three senior Orania officials interviewed by Reuters were vague about the help they sought in the U.S. They said they were not seeking handouts but wanted investment to build houses to keep up with its 15% population growth, infrastructure and energy independence that it has almost half-achieved with solar.
https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/south-africas-white-afrikaner-separatists-want-trumps-help-become-state-2025-04-03/

Guinea Sets Date for Constitutional Referendum Amid Political Tensions
General Mamadi Doumbouya, the junta leader, had previously declared 2025 as a “crucial electoral year” for returning to constitutional order but failed to provide a clear timeline. The missed December 31, 2024 deadline for launching the democratic transition led to widespread anger, with protests bringing the capital, Conakry, to a standstill.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/guinea-sets-date-for-constitutional-referendum-amid-political-tensions/

In fear of Israeli attacks | Foreign forces withdraw from military positions in Tartous
According to reliable SOHR sources, the forces withdrew in fear of Israeli attacks on the military positions, as Israeli forces attacked military centres that include members of the Ministry of Defence yesterday, and caused major damages to these positions.
https://www.syriahr.com/en/359215/

Hungary says it will withdraw from ICC as Israel’s Netanyahu visits
Netanyahu arrived in Budapest early on Thursday morning on his first trip to Europe since 2023 in defiance of the ICC’s arrest warrant against him for alleged war crimes in Gaza. Speaking at a news conference with his Hungarian counterpart, the Israeli prime minister personally thanked Orban for his decision to leave the court, calling it a “bold and principled position” against the “corrupt organisation”.
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>>488531
>the social-chauvinist BSW
As opposed to the idpol-wrecker Die Linke.
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>>488534
What's Die Linke's deal?
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>>488539
They campaigned for peace and then they supported massive re-armament.
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>>488539
Liberal infiltrators plunged the party into a quagmire of identity politics and virtue signaling.
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>>488543
>>488549
Dam

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Big massive thread for American politics.
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>>488485
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>>488487
The rational kernel in these tariffs is the US trying to reduce the dollar foreign currency reserves that other countries have. So they make a tariff on a good that is produced in country XYZ and then the government of XYZ is supposed to choose the option to empty out it's dollar reserves rather than harm their exports.

This probably will work to an extend. Although technically governments can also choose not to do that. Assuming that they do however, that means that the US gets free money it can spend. Of course this is temporary, once the dollar reserves are depleted, the result will be the dollar depreciating against other currencies. In a way it's the US cashing out one last time before the dollar hegemony is gone. It's not an entirely irrational way to deal with the end of the dollar hegemony.

The irrational expectation is that this will cause a revival of US industry. Companies will not relocate their factories to the US, they will at most do alibi-production, where 99% of the product continues to be produced in China or where-ever it used to be made and then US based phantom-production will just tighten the last screw of the thing in order to get the "Made in USA" sticker and the tariff exemption. In this case it's not really cheating because setting up production facilities is very time consuming, especially because most production isn't just about building a single factory, there usually is an entire support industry that has to be build around it too. Which usually takes about a decade to ramp up to full scale.

The reason why production in the US and the west in general has fallen so much is because of the ongoing investor-strike that began with the neo-liberal period since the 70s. One way production comes back is if all the capitalists miraculously change their minds and begin investing into production all of a sudden, i wouldn't hold my breath on that one. Or the more realistic alternative: western governments expand their public sectors to do the investing them selves. While there are no signs for this yet, it has happened before so there is at least a historic precedent. There could also be a Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>488502
>One way production comes back is if all the capitalists miraculously change their minds and begin investing into production all of a sudden, i wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
We have to remember why they stopped in the first place: it wasn't profitable anymore. The only way you could possibly convince them to invest in US industrial capital again at this point is if you somehow managed to drive US wages into third-world sweatshop levels. However, the march of industrial development never ends, so even that would be merely temporary.
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Secular Talk on the tariffs - reportedly an uninhabited island which only has penguins is among the targets of the tariffs.
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>>488522
>We have to remember why they stopped in the first place: it wasn't profitable anymore.
The falling rate of profit seems very inevitable. I think that they were so eager to spite the domestic labor-force that they didn't pause to think that if they transferred the means of production elsewhere they would cease to be the agents of history.

Consider that they did have the choice to accept reformist socdems slowly phasing out capitalism into socialism as the next mode of production. They might have ceased to be rulers, but they would still have been part of the society that shaped human civilization by virtue of having the most advanced m.o.p. They basically maneuvered the west onto the side lines by choosing to go with neo-liberalism.

I guess it's not so bad, the Chinese only emulate the part of capitalism and markets that serve the purpose of developing the productive forces, and the Chinese bourgoisie can't really become imperial capital. So there is very little danger of getting bullied around by the next empire because there isn't going to be one.

Still we're now in the side-car, just along for the ride, as the next stage of human civilization will be born in China. I guess for most people it's not really all that different, because they didn't have much of a say before. But for the ruling classes that used to shape the world, it'll be different.


>if you somehow managed to drive US wages into third-world sweatshop levels.
I don't know why this nonsense is so persistent. If you design an economy you want to have rising automation, meaning better tools for workers, because that means every worker can produce more in less time, and better quality stuff while using more abundant resources. You need to have relatively high wages in order for the accounting sheet to say that the cost of developing technology is worth it. If you have low wages, new tech looks more expensive in comparison and that means it's not happening.

If the west would raise wages and lower the worktime its economy would begin improving. The Neo-liberal formula doesn't work. Look at China where workers had wage increases by a factor of 6 in the last generation, and their economy is booming.

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Let's get a general thread about FIRE (Finance, Insurance, Real Estate). Include topics about crypto as well.
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>>488418
Imagine explaining this to an alien that our economy is doing bad, because a group of people have decremented a number on a computer, not because there's a lack of resources or labor power.
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>>488505
This says:
<Grand-wizard Trump's incantation of magic words made the economy disappear.
Makes you wonder whether it actually existed in the first place.
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They're saying it's the worst day in the market since June 2020

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Trump declares a trade war on the world with universal tariffs of 10% and higher rates on his main trading partners
Trump has shown a chart with the tariffs of major trading partners: the European Union (20%); China (34%); Japan (24%); Vietnam (46%); Taiwan (32%); India (26%); South Korea (25%); Thailand (36%); Switzerland (31%); Indonesia (32%); Brazil and the United Kingdom (10%).
https://english.elpais.com/economy-and-business/2025-04-02/trump-declares-a-trade-war-on-the-world-with-universal-tariffs-of-10-and-higher-rates-on-his-main-trading-partners.html
https://archive.ph/Bw6Zn

Germany launches permanent troop deployment on NATO’s eastern flank
According to the German military’s lobbying group, the newly created 45th Armored Brigade was formally activated during a ceremony outside Vilnius. A temporary headquarters was established, with the brigade's crest unveiled and the unit now officially under the command of Brigadier General Christoph Huber.
https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-launch-permanent-troop-deployment-lithuania-nato-eastern-flank-russia-ukraine/
https://archive.ph/Bzn3p

Germany denies Israeli claim it received hundreds of Palestinians from Gaza
Israel's interior ministry said that hundreds more people from Gaza had flown to third countries "since the beginning of the process", mainly to Germany, Romania and the United Arab Emirates. The referenced flights to Romania and the UAE, however, appear to be medical evacuations.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/germany-denies-israeli-claim-palestinians-gaza

Israel strikes military bases, infrastructure in Syria
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Trump administration celebrates rise in self-deportations: ‘We’re seeing sky-high levels of reverse migration’
By losing their legal status, many migrants will find themselves without work, and some may want to return to their home countries. However, the majority will likely remain in the United States despite their fears. Lawyers caution that the decision to leave voluntarily should be carefully weighed, as the official narrative surrounding a potential return may be misleading.
https://english.elpais.com/usa/2025-04-02/trump-administration-celebrates-rise-in-self-deportations-were-seeing-sky-high-levels-of-reverse-migration.html
https://archive.ph/YbEZO

Democrats’ win in Wisconsin court race also is a big loss for Elon Musk
Musk and his affiliated groups sunk $21 million into flipping the Wisconsin Supreme Court to conservative control, only to see his candidate defeated by 10 percentage points on Tuesday. The losing margin was four points larger than that of the only other Republican on the same statewide ballot, who was not tied to Musk’s money.
https://apnews.com/article/wisconsin-supreme-court-elon-musk-81f71cdda271827ae281a77072a26bad

US judge throws out corruption case against NYC Mayor Eric Adams
A United States federal judge has permanently dismissed corruption charges against New York City Mayor Eric Adams, even as he criticised the Trump administration’s argument that the case should be dropped because it was hindering the Democratic politician’s help with an immigration crackdown.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/4/2/us-judge-throws-out-corruption-case-against-nyc-mayor-eric-adams
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Celebrate the New People’s Army on its 56th Anniversary!
The National Democratic Front of the Philippines (NDFP) greets the New People’s Army (NPA) on its 56th Anniversary on March 29, 2025. For almost six decades, the NPA has fought eight bureaucrat-capitalist, pro-imperialist and landlord-controlled regimes, exemplifying the Filipino people’s spirit of courage and determination for democracy and independence. In the tradition of the Katipunan, the NPA started as a small, poorly-armed force in 1969. But with the support of the oppressed and exploited Filipino people, it grew into a force so formidable that the semi-colonial and semi-feudal ruling state considered it the number one threat to its power.
https://abolitionmedia.noblogs.org/18056/

With Section 230 Repeal, Dems and Media Offer Trump New Censorship Tools
In a move that threatens to constrain online communication, congressional Democrats are partnering with their Republican counterparts to repeal a niche but crucial internet law. According to tech trade publication the Information (3/21/25), Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin (Ill.) has allied with Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham (S.C.) to reintroduce a bill that would repeal Section 230, a provision of the 1996 Communications Decency Act. Section 230 dictates that when unlawful speech occurs online, the only party responsible is the speaker, not the hosting website or app or any party that shared the content in question. Section 230 grants platforms the ability to moderate without shouldering legal liability, a power that has historically had the effect of encouraging judicious content management (Techdirt, 6/23/20). Additionally, it indemnifies ordinary internet users against most civil suits for actions like forwarding email, sharing photos or videos, or hosting online reviews. Dissolving the provision would reassign legal responsibility to websites and third parties, empowering a Trump-helmed federal government to force online platforms to stifle, or promote, certain speech. While the ostensible purpose of the repeal, according to Durbin, is to “protect kids online,” it’s far more likely to give the Trump White House carte blanche to advance its ultra-reactionary political agenda.
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>>488496
People were furious with the Zionist for enabling a genocide, attacking democratic rights and journalism.
>With Section 230 Repeal, Dems and Media Offer Trump New Censorship Tools
Now People will get even angrier because the Zionists are also fucking with the internet.
Even people who previously didn't care about what happens in far away lands will now be given reason to oppose Zionism.

The political lesson we are learning is that freedom of speech has been violated unless there's proof that censorship is not possible.
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I literally thought OP's pic was holding a bunch of bongs.
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>>488524
That's how they get u

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This site, and especially this fucking board, is dead as fuck. And yet 4chan and every other imageboard talks about how it's raiding them and think bunkerchan still exists.
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>>1767 me
Like i post spam and it gets instantly deleted. no fun allowed
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>>1768
you have already admitted "spam" means any opinion you don't like.
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This is not the only bunker.
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i want link sed satan
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>>1797
The entire anglosphere has basically declared war on trans people so it makes sense that they feel so hopeless. And yet, they continue to organize and read theory. What is there to be mad at?

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