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African: culture, philosophy, art Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:52 No.2300 [Reply]

I saw this picture (pic related) on another thread, and I am actually pretty curious about the topic.

Any good suggestions (books, videos, texts) for getting into African philosophy, culture and art?

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:26:44 No.4596

>>4594
>People thought the earth was flat bf copernicus
wrong
you probably mean geocentrism but even that is not entirely true

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:26:45 No.4602

>>4594
Circular Earth has been the norm since Anaxagoras and Plato.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:26:46 No.4611

>>4588
have you got a pdf of them

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:26:47 No.4629

>>2444
kek

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Anonymous 2021-05-07 (Fri) 22:11:52 No.5613

>>2442
>read Hegel’s History of Philosophy
Hegel was pretty ignorant about non western philosophy.
for example the chinese.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:26:26 No.4366 [Reply]

Is it fine to read translations of Adorno? What are the best ones? I've heard his works are difficult to translate correctly.

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Anonymous 2021-05-07 (Fri) 21:53:30 No.5611

>>4366
>Is it fine to read translations of Adorno
no.

Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:25:17 No.3624 [Reply]

Hello and welcome comrades!, this is a reading club thread, we will be reading and discussing Marxist theory books.
We've already started and completed reading and discussing The Communist Manifesto and The Principles of Communism yesterday.
Anyone can join the reading club, if you want to read and understand theory and you're serious about it then don't be afraid to join! we're still reading the basics so you don't have to be intimidated.

Our current reading list:
https://leftyread.neocities.org/

/leftytrash/ matrix community link:
https://matrix.to/#/+leftytrash:matrix.org
/read/ matrix room link:
https://matrix.to/#/#leftyread:matrix.org

Also we are closely related to the /GET/ Reading group who helped us make our own reading group:
https://www.getchan.net/GET/res/469.html

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Anonymous 2021-03-02 (Tue) 19:43:23 No.5082

Some burger anon recommend a euro a book to understand the doctrine of manifest destiny and settler colonialism in the US. Also, just books about imperialism and colonialism from a Marxist perspective appreciated

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Anonymous 2021-03-04 (Thu) 10:18:15 No.5095

Probably Settlers unironically, but read critically.

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Anonymous 2021-03-30 (Tue) 02:30:13 No.5341

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/read/ news update

First and foremost, we're happy to welcome yet another reading group into our community. This time it's the <currently unnamed> reading group, formerly known as the infrared reading group. They've been running their own operation for a while now. We've added them to our matrix community ( https://matrix.to/#/+leftyread:matrix.org ) and are in the process of adding their schedule and books to our website. They're currently working with philosophy and psychoanalysis. See the Heidegger and Freud threads on this board for their activity.

Second, but no less important: our web domain, leftyread.ml, was taken down. We're still looking into it, but it's probably for copyright infringement (a lot of our books were from libgen) . It seems unlikely we'll get that domain back for various reasons, so we'll be running on the old domain for now. That is: leftyread.neocities.org

That is all.

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Anonymous 2021-05-06 (Thu) 14:16:07 No.5599

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When will /read/ tackle this beautiful masterpiece of Marxist theory?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u_uHELNQ8U5ffKVrj2nopoeppPZN5tQ5f_aNjMDro20/edit

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Anonymous 2021-05-07 (Fri) 06:48:51 No.5602

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>>5599
> market socialism that abolishes the commodity form

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Anonymous 2021-04-30 (Fri) 20:03:35 No.5558 [Reply]

You people lied to me, I read Deleuze and the guy was a fucking materialist.

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Anonymous 2021-04-30 (Fri) 23:26:43 No.5563

Care to elaborate?

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Anonymous 2021-05-03 (Mon) 18:58:47 No.5586

who ever said deleuze wasn't a materialist. he's like the arch-materialist.

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Anonymous 2021-05-03 (Mon) 22:42:44 No.5587

>>5586
He’s a spinozist.

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Anonymous 2021-05-05 (Wed) 03:25:54 No.5595

>>5587
Isn't Spinoza a materialist too…?

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Anonymous 2021-05-05 (Wed) 20:17:09 No.5598

>>5595
he’s a fake materialist

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Anonymous 2021-05-04 (Tue) 02:09:36 No.5588 [Reply]

>muh fire
>muh artemis
>muh bow/harp
>muh death/play
>muh wisdom in ordinary things

>But he had himself withdrawn into the temple of Artemis in order to play knucklebones with the children; here, the Ephesians stood around him, and he said to them: “What are you gaping at, you scoundrels? Or is it not better to do this than to work with you on behalf of the πόλις (city)?”

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Ideology and the real Anonymous 2021-04-11 (Sun) 17:38:59 No.5411 [Reply]

I thinking i'm making the mistake of mixing postmodern thinkers and marxism without a good philosophical base. Zizek’s conception of ideology is based Lacan’s idea of the “real”, a primordial element that can not be discovered through any scientific analysis. The Orthodox marxist conception of the ideology is in relation to material reality of class relations. Ideology is what leads to “false consciousness”. Im I grasping it wrong? If Zizek doesn’t believe in the existence of an objective reality , Can he really be a marxists? Also wtf is the "lack in the symbolic Other". Can somebody help clarify?

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Anonymous 2021-04-27 (Tue) 11:35:01 No.5535

>Zizek’s conception of ideology is based Lacan’s idea of the “real”, a primordial element that can not be discovered through any scientific analysis.
Real positivist hours.

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Anonymous 2021-04-29 (Thu) 08:21:16 No.5554

>>5534
Lacan's subject: the imaginary, language, the real and philosophy - Bert Olivier

Relations of the Real in Lacan, Bataille and Blanchot - Fred Botting

Some academic articles I looked up

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Anonymous 2021-04-29 (Thu) 08:23:12 No.5555

Check out plastic pills

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Anonymous 2021-04-29 (Thu) 15:08:36 No.5556

>>5534
> What you're saying here sounds more like the imaginary.
I don’t think so

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Anonymous 2021-05-02 (Sun) 01:42:47 No.5573

Zizek is a materialist (this makes him a valid enough Marxist in my eyes in this context), as in he believes the world actually exists outside of humans. He doesn't believe in the existence of objective reality in the sense that "truth" doesn't exist, >>5412 like this post said science isn't "fact", it is this interrogation process. He realises that our conception of material reality is warped by ideology and that this is inescapable in its entirety.
>They don't know it but they are doing it

>What is lack in the symbolic Other
This shit I find incomprehensible without context, just read Zizek and these ideas will slowly reveal themselves. (however some other intro Lacan/Freud reading seems like it would help you a lot).
>>5534
Good post.

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Anonymous 2021-04-22 (Thu) 16:49:20 No.5506 [Reply]

I'm looking for books on Middle Eastern politics and history. Give me some recommendations. Also, has anyone read this? Is it any good?

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Anonymous 2021-04-23 (Fri) 08:22:56 No.5515

Orientalism by Edward Said is a must read. You don't have to aggree with everything he said, but you should still read it imo

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Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 08:52:58 No.5568

If you're interested in Iran specifically, Between Two Revolutions is a good book written by a Marxist that presents the history of (mostly) 20th century Iran through that lens very well.

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Anonymous 2021-05-02 (Sun) 01:42:37 No.5572

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>>5568
> Between Two Revolutions
Thank you very much for the recommendation.
>>5506
I'd recommend "All the Shah's Men" by Kinzer on the topic of Iran. He has some other good books as well, such as "The Brothers" and "Poisoner-in-Chief".

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Sage 2021-08-08 (Sun) 23:35:59 No.6791

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>>5515
>>5568
>>5568
Hello everyone, OP here, I read all your books and they are very good. And I want to provide an update on picrel. I read it, and after reading a lot of different accounts on Lebanon and Hezbollah. I can say the book in picrel is accurate. The author isn't a Marxist, but is legitimate and gives a accurate understanding of the group and it's history. If anyone disagrees I would love to hear about it.

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Software and hardware science thread Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 22:50:20 No.5571 [Reply]

Need some resources

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why do orthodox Marxists want to eventually abolish money Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:26:50 No.4666 [Reply]

and how do they plan on deprecating money itself? I know labor vouchers is usually the system that’s brought up but it doesn’t seem like Marx himself was thrilled about it, he just said it could be temporarily used in a workers’ state. I don’t understand how he planned on deprecating it afterwards. Cockshott expanded upon this by adding that they could be digital so that people wouldn’t be able to trade with them. but how does the act of trading currency inherently promote labor alienation? I understand how under private property it does, but in a collectively owned means of production I don’t see why it’s a problem, or why it’s any better than the currency system of the Soviet Union.
tl;dr why do orthodox Marxists believe no banknotes at all > labor vouchers > money?
pic unrelated.

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Anonymous 2021-04-29 (Thu) 05:10:28 No.5553

"Eventually"? Getting rid of it is a necessity.

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Anonymous 2021-04-29 (Thu) 15:10:16 No.5557

>>5553
That answers nothing

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Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 02:23:57 No.5566

>>4667
>abolishing the production of things with the primary purpose of being sold (rather than shared or distributed)
So there will be no more trading collectable card games in communism?

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Anonymous 2021-05-01 (Sat) 03:09:05 No.5567

>>5566
“abolish” is a bad translation of “sublate”. there won’t be a law making trading things illegal, that’s not what abolish means in Marxism.

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Anonymous 2021-07-02 (Fri) 22:43:13 No.6256

>>5566
Pokemon card are shared and passed around.

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Philosophy of Data Anonymous 2021-04-20 (Tue) 00:05:40 No.5485 [Reply]

Is there such a thing yet? Philosophy about data itself, datamining, neural networks, massive surveillance, etc.

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Anonymous 2021-04-20 (Tue) 14:16:15 No.5491

Pretty weird because I was literally thinking the exact same thing this morning. You would think it’s pretty straight forward to make a dialectical analysis of the internet and its alienation and accumulation of data but it seems like no one has done it.

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Anonymous 2021-04-20 (Tue) 16:03:21 No.5493

>>5491
more likely, academic philosophy (and science's philosphy) is way too obscure and not vulgarized at all, cause I would be surprised none of them thought about theorizing that shit

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Anonymous 2021-04-20 (Tue) 22:56:01 No.5494

Baudrillard and Virilio

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Anonymous 2021-04-22 (Thu) 23:30:13 No.5507

>>5485
philosophy of technology is your best bet. McLuhan, Packard, Mumford, Baudrillard

For specific current books on what you're talking about:
The age of surveillance capitalism
Surveillance Valley - The Secret Military History of the Internet

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Anonymous 2021-04-27 (Tue) 23:04:39 No.5538

>>5507
I think OP is talking more about the internet as a culture and it’s movements. An explanation for the rise and fall of internet communities would be an interesting endeavor.