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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:30 No.2061 [Reply]

I don't want to leave the house, do any work or anything at all. I would rather lay in bed all day and do heroin. In a socialist society, what happens when I simply refuse to work at all? Do I get housed and fed, or do I starve?

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:32 No.2077

>>2074
Feel free to have an argument hedonist.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:32 No.2078

you go to rehab

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:32 No.2079

my take is that in socialism, if you don't work you get like your basic subsistence met, like you don't starve, but that's it, you don't get to enjoy the good things in life without doing some work

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:32 No.2080

"He who does not work, does not eat" - Lenin

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:48 No.2245

Really it depends on the level of productive forces/abundance in the society. Compare "From each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution" with "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." I think, for example, in a socialist (lower-phase communism) Germany, you would be provided with a house and food, but probably not much more than that. In a sufficiently abundant higher-phase communism, I'm sure you could be afforded some luxury goods, depending on the level of abundance. People who don't wish to work (where what counts as work is much broader than modern-day capitalism) would be rare. The reason why "forced labour" existed in the USSR was simply because the society was poor and needed to develop quickly, etc.

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Cuba and Venezuela before the revolution. Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:19:58 No.623 [Reply]

What do people exactly mean when they claim Cuba and Venezuela were richer before their socialist governments? was it close to an oligarchy?

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Black Sexual Pathologist 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:20:02 No.664

>Dirty commies took away grandpa’s slaves, they should all be exterminated, blacks belong to whites and Cuba belongs to America
Basically this

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:42 No.2177

For what it's worth Venezuela in 1996 had an inflation rate of only 100% as opposed to back in 2018 when it reached up to 130,060%.

https://youtu.be/R3CR6MzcGD8

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Shaytan 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:43 No.2195

>>627
Cuba was actually a center for sex tourism, much like Thailand or the Phillipines today.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:44 No.2208

>>2177
What exactly caused this inflation are they printing that much money ore is this some US chenanigans

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:46 No.2220

Some little videos about it. At least Venezuela, it's common knowladge that Cuba under Batista was a playground for mafias and rich gringos.

Videos about Venezuela
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvh_mCQbExk Part One
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJZ9QJx_Xqw Part Two

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Sal 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:53 No.1688 [Reply]

What makes someone a nazbol or "reactionary leftist"?

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:57 No.1747

>>1742
>workerist
>genocide
back

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:31 No.2075

>>1747
Not an argument.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:32 No.2081

>>1742
They don't. They think Soviet system is "Jewish" and they were the first to accuse Soviets of killing 100 billion. They just like the aesthetics and symbols of Nazbolism.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:32 No.2082

P

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:41 No.2173

a reactionary is one who seeks to defend the system. their reaction is one of picking up arms in the name of capitalism. "left reactionaries," are those who have a veneer of do gooder, but where the rubber meets the road, you see their ideology is just a defense of capitalism. (except with black/gay CEOs for example) so when some 23 year old freshly minted critical theory person comes on the scene and obfuscates class consciousness by directing rage towards selected outgroups, they are in practice, a reactionary leftist. in their mind, they are "on the right side of history," but when you go to the root of their beliefs, they still want to preserve hierarchy, and still enable some rich fucks to control millions of people's lives, because their analysis ends at the thin veneer of "see i said the good thing on social media."

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Obscure Soviet Vehicles (and Regular Ones too, why not) Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:59 No.1763 [Reply]

Just saw this video on the Soviet Antarctic ice cruisers called Kharkovchanka, and thought it was pretty good.
And I remember seeing here and there in all manner of different threads stuff like Soviet nuclear icebreakers and massive scaled naval hovercraft.
So I figure weird and supercool Soviet vehicles like those would be a great topic for an /edu/ thread,
as well as any normal Soviet vehicles of course because they're cool too.

https://youtu.be/f6R-h06IsJw

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:01 No.1785

this is also an interesting project that could have make a lot of things easier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VOzKuEhrMY

I don't understand why people keep telling there's no innovation under socialism, the way I see it, there's only innovation that's actually needed. The only "innovation" capitalism came up with is technology that dumbs down the populations into obedient consumers.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:31 No.2073

>>1763
https://youtu.be/ZguO5H_Y1Ew

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Cuckoldry Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:52 No.1677 [Reply]

Does anyone have a PDF of Charles Fourier's "The Hierarchies of Cuckoldry and Bankruptcy"?

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:56 No.1735

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>>1734

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:56 No.1736

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>>1734
legend

thanks. uploaded this to libgen

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:56 No.1737

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>>1734
Don't destroy it anon, it's perfectly readable.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:56 No.1738

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>>1734
Fucking awesome dude. Thank you for what you've done

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t. GonzaLOL 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:07 No.1850

>>1734
Thank you, based anon

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List of successful socialist countries Historian 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:18:44 No.53 [Reply]

You've heard this argument time and time again that there has never been a successful socialist country, so I thought it would be nice to have a thread talking about successful socialist countries.

Post history, share sources, let's make a list!

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:39 No.1557

>>333
>>324
>>323
>>303
These pics are from the early 2010s. In those days "The USSR/China/DPRK wasn't real socialism" was unironically used a lot more by leftists online, so anticommunists would regularly spam the original "Only my specific form of socialism can work". Leftists at that time tried to counter that by making these lists even if it meant taking a bunch of people who had nothing to do with each other and throwing them all into the same bag. They're basically dead memes, I don't think I've actually seen anyone use them in years.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:04 No.1820

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>>53
>This shit anit-uthoritarian meme again

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:05 No.1824

>>58
go away radlib, this is /edu/

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:05 No.1826

>>64
>China
>Laying the groundwork
Barf. They clearly went off the rails to a fairly Nationalist State Capitalism.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:05 No.1829

>>1824
Lmao you're not fooling anyone.

Historian 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:19:04 No.216 [Reply]

We should make a general history guide for an overview on leftists history movements/people/thinkers that type of thing

There's a lot to cover so we should just stick with what would make the best overview

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:58 No.1759

bump

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:59 No.1764

>>1752
I do not speak with Dengists.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:59 No.1765

>>1744
>guy interested in psychology
Try introducing him to Mark Fisher

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:01 No.1784

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Here you go.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:01 No.1788

you guys gotta read Hobsbawm. his whole Age Of series has been indispensable to me

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"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:13 No.1319 [Reply]

define needs. is it the bare minimum to survive?

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:13 No.1320

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>according to HIS needs

>define needs. is it the bare minimum to survive?

bruh

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:22:00 No.1778

it’s subjective. not in that anything goes. in that it depends on the person. only you know what you need.

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Graphene General Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:58 No.1753 [Reply]

I guess lots of people are somewhat skeptical it'll be anything, since a bunch of media outlets hyped it up a decade ago and nothing came of it,
but they were hyping up its discovery then, when it was still a whole world away from the production process.
From what I understand, silicon was much this way at first as well; groundbreaking discovery but a long time before they could figure out mass-production and implementation.
Now it seems at last the stuff is ready to be mass-produced and the actual production line is ramping up, and consumer products with marginal amounts of the stuff are already available.

So this thread will be for general discussion about what graphene is capable of and its implementations,
as well as for advancements in the production process and availability of graphene.

Some articles:
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/what-is-graphene/
http://news.mit.edu/2018/manufacturing-graphene-rolls-ultrathin-membranes-0418
https://phys.org/news/2020-07-solar-cells-graphene-armor.html
https://www.zmescience.com/science/graphene-clothes-thermal-regulation-18062020/
https://newatlas.com/bicycles/graphenlube-graphene-bicycle-lubricant/
https://www.knowablemagazine.org/article/technology/2019/graphene-2d-materials
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bear 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:58 No.1754

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I've been reading some of this and this just feels too unreal. Like it can do so much things better and faster and its like "press x to doubt". Nonetheless, it sounds exciting, especially with the solar panels, and how it will affect renewable energy. Also if you don't mind, do you have anything about the history of Silicon. I kinda want to see how opinions changed as it was being rolled out, like you described.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:58 No.1756

>>1754
In all honesty I might've just gotten confused and am overexaggerating Silicon somewhat.
It's really hard to find articles so I've genuinely no idea where I got my history of it to begin with.
Regardless, Silicon was invented in the 1820s and it wasn't figured out that they make computers good until like the 1950s/60s/70s.
The issue I'm thinking of might not have been the mass production of silicon itself, but rather the mass production of the integrated circuit, which silicon was of course quintessential in enabling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_of_the_integrated_circuit
http://www.mobileranger.com/blog/a-very-small-big-deal-the-history-of-the-integrated-circuit/

Now ignoring the fact that it was discovered in the 1820s,
if we just take the timeline from when they figured out how it could be used in an integrated circuit to when it actually became commercially available en masse, it amounts to about 15 years.
Though even then it still took far more time for it to be cheaply available.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:58 No.1760

>>1753
A graphene battery (phone charger) released awhile ago, but it was a little underwhelming. It had clear advantages, yes, however perhaps not enough to warrant aping the market.
https://youtu.be/dnE1nO6o-do
I am going to give the benefit of the doubt that it's being underutilised in this product.

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:59 No.1762

>>1760
Yeah this is just the beginning of what's capable;
they just added like a sheet of it to already existing battery architecture, and that alone has improved charge time from 1.5 hours to 20 minutes, as well as slightly improving capacity.
Actually designing electronics architectures around graphene and incorporating the material in every facet of the device is what will offer the truly immense improvements.

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Claude Levi-Strauss Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:54 No.1704 [Reply]

Where does one go after reading Tristes Tropiques? I have heard The Savage Mind is the way to go, but the English translation is supposed to be erroneous

For those unfamillar: CLS was a Marxist/structuralist anthropologist and ethnologist

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Comrade 2020-12-21 (Mon) 05:21:55 No.1729

Haven't read much of CLS yet, but I suppose Structural Anthropology is the next important work after Tristes Tropiques.

Also check out Maurice Godelier, he was a student of CLS but developed Marxist Anthropology.
CLS was a structuralist first and foremost, him being a Marxist is not that relevant.