/edu/ - Education

Thanks for sharing this, I've had trouble with alcohol before and this is really interesting

>>4759
According to the study green eyes are light like blue eyes so they'd also have higher rates of alcoholism

this sounds like bro science tbh

>>4940
It probably is.
Or rather their style of explanation is “bro science”

>>8020
The funny thing about Wittgenstein is that he spent his later life saying "I didn't get it right" and everyone moved to say he solved philosophy then and there. It's crazy really.

I could never wrap my head around the person who is that quick to give over their brain to a thought leader. It's not that I'm some defiant personality that has to be argumentative. I'd love it if someone had all of the answers. Every time someone presents this system where they have all of the answers, it is the most flabbergastingly stupid shit. It's never a system that pertains to the world I see every day and have to live with. It's not even an indicator of what a total system would be. It's just "the system is never wrong" and a demand for slavish devotion to it. That way of thinking has been around in some form since forever and it's never worked. It's also been known since ancient times that this "total system" doesn't work for the same reasons I can figure out on my own.

Really though I don't understand the obsession with making knowledge trivial and reducing it to self-serving koans and sayings. I get why there are people who do this, but the world has always presented to me as a very large assortment of premises, all of which point to an underlying reality that has nothing to do with what I know or any linguistic conceit. The way of thinking that can mandate that we're obligated to respect the "total system" is very new, but the root causes of this disease are very ancient. The longer it goes on, the more insufferable it will be and the more it will throw lies at everyone to make them accept it.

As far as I know, no credible philosopher in history invokes the "total system" and insists it's true no matter what. Even someone as disgusting as Heidegger has his line of reasoning regarding the world and the power of making such statements. The German ideologues knowingly lie and believe that the essential act of lying invokes power. It's never worked for them, but it is a system that perpetuates itself and answers certain questions about the world. It can be done where the universe is viewed as a totality and that totality is functionally a clockwork (even if you're not allowed to say it's a clockwork, but all "totalities" necessarily imply a clockwork universe).

>>8021
As a black man having to grow up with an overbearing Christian mom, I feel you.


Most people don’t really believe in God or whatever their political orientation states they are.

They just merely hope.

One thing I’ve learned is that things that have direct evidence for its effectiveness is never forced on people.
It’s always the things that have no direct evidence of effectiveness that’s forced.

Society dictates that religious adults are justified in forcing their beliefs into children.

Society also seems to shrug off the amount of sexual and platonically physical abuse that happens in religiopolitical institutions.

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>>8022

That's how education works - by forcing children to accept a lie, even a noble lie. The educator always considers giving the truth with clear evidence to be "cheating" because the point of education is to filter and make the student "work for it". As much as possible, the educator wants to decided arbitrarily who passes and fails, and "corrects history" until those who aren't supposed to succeed fail. Every system of education in history does this because education inherently serves some political function and has nothing to do with learning or the truth.
In the past, there was a baseline level of truth-telling that was necessary for society to continue. Workers needed to know how to till the land without being told again, and the same is true of any labor. In practice, no one in management is particularly concerned with merit or even a productive result of the labor. To a manager, the most important thing is that the ordering of society does not essentially change. The manager prefers that the current managers stay where they are or promote, but even more important than individual want is the managerial system remaining intact. Even at the expense of the collective interests of society or the interests of individuals, "the system is never wrong" because that was the way it has always been so far as the dominant ideas care. In the past, honesty was maintained by a lot of inertia working against the managerial system and by the necessities of their societies, since they had to fight actual wars eventaully or they faced individual famine if their farms weren't genuinely productive. The problem is primarily managerial rather than a religious problem or pure and simple greed of the proprietors. Proprietors may want to see the poor starve and extract more rent, but without the overbearing managerialism throughout the whole society, that can't be realized or morally enforced within the working class and institutions. The proprietors would have to resort to force to make people pay rent, and this assumes the proprietors define the point of their existence as rent-extraction which a proprietor may not want to do. Managers on the other hand are only incentivized to remain managers no matter what. The managers do not have a large stake in property, and what stake they have is almost never a personal one that translates to owning a long-term firm. The managers movePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>8023
>With "God" a lot of those who claim belief do not know what they are saying. So many are convinced God is their friend or looking out for them in some way, and that is not at all how it works.

This personalization of God is rife in Judie-Christianity especially in the west.
It’s obnoxious.

Is no wonder why churches are filled to the brim with semi-reformed degenerates, midlife crisis victims, and plain old underachievers.

>>374
That’s ironically how many books and movies become classics.
Relatability.

>>2431
>It's pretty obvious that people just really, really hate living in cities
I disagree. People hate living in shitty cities.

>number of 18-29 y.o. people

What did OP mean by this as a factor?

>>2469
This.

There are cities that people love living in.
Also, if you think cities are bad, boonies are just as bad.
No amenities available, no sane people around for miles, only activities are drinking and shooting, etc.

>>2427
>These were the role-less individuals who added a physical aspect to their social isolation. They were mostly male, and despite awful takes from smoothbrains, this too is related to social roles. It's an inescapable fact that the female role in reproduction is incomparably longer and more intense than the male one and thus the female population has a "reserve pool" of social roles, resulting in fewer of them becoming beautiful ones.

You’re assuming that women are all beautiful and/or remain attractive.
You’re forgetting that female elders often end up alone.

If you look at numbers for long enough you find correlations based on nothing in particular. None of this is real though. The motives for war throughout history are simple: those who instigate them risk nothing, because all costs for the war are borne by the oppressed. It's a win-win for the instigators, and so they will do so whenever they can mobilize an army that presents a serious threat. The soldiers are paid, and the performance of war deters most invasions by pre-empting them.

There is never any serious "elite infighting". The chief purpose of war is to exhaust the lives and resources of the general public, so that they may be kept in a state of despair and the existence of large, centralized state is made "necessary". If not for this, then people of all nations, regardless of their past, will look at their situation, look to each other, and see that nothing will ever be accomplished by these wars except the aggrandizement of people who should not be encouraged. There would, at the least, be a declaration of universal peace and severe punishment of all instigators and transgressors who create these things. In the long term, the peoples involved, whatever the nature of their polities, will see a global authority as the best outcome. These peoples will never be "one state" or "one nation", or one thing managed in the manner of a city-state or any state we have yet known; but for all intents and purposes, the policy of these entities would be set in accord with the needs of the global apparatus, because the value of maintaining that peace would be far greater than any ambition of one of the polities to dominate the others. The regime of "Plan War" throughout history accomplishes the same ends, but keeps the people exhausted with an ever-present fear of invasion. The world of peace relies on good will and trust to not ruin what would be a clearly beneficial condition for all of the polities involved. The world of war is functionally the world of peace for the aristocracy; by instigating these wars, with whatever excuses are needed to produce them, the aristocracy secures its own existence, which was always reliant on incessant instigation and setting the other orders of society against each other.

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>>7283
You realize that Cambodians don't even believe this, right?

>>6114
Good take. I've been to Cambodia and seen the Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum in Phnom Penh (converted from a high school to a prison for political prisoners). It's pretty chilling.

But we do need to see these things as a chain of events rather than isolated actions. Indeed, the meddling US ruling class has a lot of responsibility. I'd say that China and the USSR also have some blame, using other nations as pawns, and perhaps precipitating such a brutal regime when it would not have been necessary. They rushed through it and as usually happens when you do that, they fucked up.

Despite best efforts to prevent the red menace from spreading, now nominally "Communist" Vietnam is a rising economic power. Visit sometime … Houses going up everywhere, and many people finally have enough money to leave if that's what they choose to do. I didn't get a sense from the people that the government was anything but something done to them rather than something they were part of, though, so I would guess it's another sham socialism, with maybe some elements to control the worst of capitalism…

>>7285
>It's only real socialism when people stay poor
Lel

>>7286
Not sure how that's what you drew from it.

It's not socialism if it's undemocratic. That's all. You can't force anyone to "do" socialism.

hey fella,do you know where you are?
we don't talk about yellow uyghurs here.

>>7881
This. Most discussions about masculinity often delve into the same cartoonish impression of "Conan The Barbarian" against some giants or fighting an epic war.


Gender roles were mainly just about who makes seed and who bleeds every month
All that "women are dainty and must be worshipped" is a modern invention made by Germanics.

>>7419
>it will help exorcise the faggy zeitgeist
Didn't work for Jack Donovan lmao

>>7969
This. Most of out machismo cultists are often found out to be fudgepackers

>>7971
what is a 'fudgepacker' ?

>>7972
If you have anal sex you are packing fudge so to speak.

>>7215
No need to be upset anon, I was just curious. After all, this thread is about what books we're reading.

>>7204
The three body problem is amazing! Best scifi series I've read. I just finished the second book in the series, The Dark Forest and it was great. I can highly recommend this, I couldn't put it down.

>>7888
Yeah such a wild ride.
I want to second this epic book recommendation.

>>7888
Isn't one of the main plot points shitting on the Cultural Revolution? I should read it before screeching I guess but the clips from the adaptation that I've seen might as well be from Prager U and I do wonder if it gets the love it does simply because it's from le China.

>>7968
I think people liked it because the 'high concept science fiction porn' is just amazing and the characters are very good.

The main theme in those books is the dark-forest solution to the Fermi paradox. (We can't see any signs of aliens because everybody in the universe is hiding). All the aliens think like ultra neocons, interstellar diplomacy doesn't exist and the way to be safe is to exterminate rival species or hide from extermination. That's a very myopic outlook, and could be considered reactionary. Dark Forest is not realistic but it is how some people think.

In my humble opinion the cultural revolution was a mistake, the goals were honorable but the implementation was a total crap-shoot. The critique of the cultural revolution in these books is slightly anti-communist, yes, but it is not too bad, it will not spoil your enjoyment of it. It is not a main plot point, 90% of the books is just exploration of cool scifi ideas.

One of the political themes is how technologically less advanced humans try to cope with more advanced aliens that want to destroy humanity. It reflects how many people in the world felt about the military interventions of the United states. The aliens even say that humans are bugs, which mirrors US propaganda from the cold war that depicted Chinese people as an insect colony.

The author has a philosophy related to Daoism and Taoism that teaches indifference to the suffering of others. I did not like that but he is not forcing it on you, his writing style is the opposite of Ayn Rand's. (She is trying to force the reader to see the world her way in a very obnoxious way)

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The science was very well researched for the time of release, but since then some of the predictions have been refuted.
The secondary theme in those books is the idea that civilizations are trial and error.
The ending of the third book is lame.
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>>7001
>>7001
Aren't we just all coping through capitalism?

>>7002
You're right anon, and communism is the ultimate cope

>>7001
'nations are born stoic and die epicurean'

- Comrade Will Durant

>Comfort is the enemy.

>Comfort breeds weakeness. Contentment breeds decay. Look at obstacles as a means toward growth, and embrace discomfort. It is only through being challenged and facing difficulty that one is able to develop in a positive way.

Ah yes, the guilt tripping against contentment.
"Real men never rest, they always seek more".

That kind of mentality is what leads to burnout after doing the hedonic treadmill.

Stoicism is just the male version of "empathy".
Also, real stoics are flat-affect autists

is anything that OP said actually true?

>>7924
If OP is lying, why are so many college educated people working dead end jobs?

>>7950
I mean he's got a point about degrees, we probably should have gone with radian angular measurements.

>>7949
i dont know. doesnt mean OP is telling the truth. or lying.

Kant and Heidegger critique Renaissance philosophy if that’s something you’re looking for

>>5206
I'm years late here, but what were their critiques?

>>7932
The Renaissance is the boot-loader for the enlightenment and modernity. Heidegger complains that it is weakening feudal and theocratic power. He doesn't say like that of course.

No clue what Kant said.