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 No.12876[Reply]

Hello, faggots, thanks to our unwavering dedication to the community I am proud to announce we are rolling out our own, official, leftychan.net i2p address.
You can locate the eepsite @ http://leftychmxz3wczbd4add4atspbqevzrtwf2sjobm3waqosy2dbua.b32.i2p, or, http://leftychan.i2p/.
If you have any trouble, as stated on the news announcement, try manually adding the address and domain to your address book.

-Yours Truly.
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 No.12898

>>12897
You don't even need to use the "dark net" Bans are basically impossible because of vpns and proxies and everything else.


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 No.6724[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This thread is only for feedback related to technical issues(bug reports, suggestions). Otherwise use
>>>/leftypol/30356
Public Repo: https://github.com/towards-a-new-leftypol/leftypol_lainchan
If you have any grievances you can make a PR.

Mobile Support: https://github.com/PietroCarrara/Clover/releases/latest
Thread For Mobile Feedback: >>>/tech/6316

Onion Link: http://wz6bnwwtwckltvkvji6vvgmjrfspr3lstz66rusvtczhsgvwdcixgbyd.onion
Cytube: https://tv.leftychan.net
Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#Leftypol:matrix.org
Once you enter, consider joining the lefty technology room.

We are currently working on improvements to the site, subject to the need of the tech team to sleep and go to their day jobs. If you need more immediate feedback please join the matrix room[s] and ask around. Feel free to leave comments, concerns, and suggestions about the tech side of the site here and we will try to get to it as soon as possible

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 No.12030

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>>>/meta/11075
>We don't really know where it is located in the source code because lainchan is spaghetti code
The bug is caused by instantiating the index template
https://github.com/towards-a-new-leftypol/leftypol_lainchan/blob/3396999a17b4c67473a5b1739329a9d08b992c84/templates/themes/overboards/theme.php#L204
using the $config of the openBoard call of the buildOne call of whichever thread happens to be last in the $top_threads loop.

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any clean way to access the board-independent global config once openBoard has been run at least once. So a general solution may need to save a reference to the board-independent global config into a new global variable as soon as it is available
https://github.com/towards-a-new-leftypol/leftypol_lainchan/blob/3396999a17b4c67473a5b1739329a9d08b992c84/inc/functions.php#L38
and pass that to the instantiation of the index template.


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 No.13075[Reply]

generative ML software
-generative machine learning software will kill off the copyright-restriction lobby
Media creation will become cheap and abundant, restricting access to content will become self defeating. SO called IP will seize to be capital, the new capital will be the chip-plants and power-plants. Small artists will benefit the most, these new tools will allow individuals and small teams to create very sophisticated content that previously was only doable for large companies.
-Copy restrictions are the most destructive in the pharmaceutical field because they prevent people from getting medicine, and globally this leads to the involuntary slaughter of tens of millions of people every year. I would expect a similar dynamic from computationally brute-forcing candidates for molecules with medical properties and a explosion of cheap generica.
-it will become so easy to make fake surveillance-recordings and digital-records that all kinds of video, audio and digital records will be downgraded from forensic evidence to testimonial evidence.

AI-stalking
-The so called "client-side csam-scanning" scheme will backfire spectacularly, because AI image-recognition and image-generation are very similar, and one can be turned into the other. AI-stalking is deployed like regular malware, the attacker injects a payload into the victims computer to exfiltrate data. Big tech like Apple or the EU Thorn-surveillance group (responsible for chat-control), are pushing to infect a gazillion smartphones with this crud. They will end up spreading a pedo-porn-generator far and wide. The think of the children political deception will die with this one.
-meat-space surveillance with cameras that recognize peoples faces will turn into a gang-violence bonanza. While the meat-space mafia is generally stupid with mediocre tech skills, they will eventually figure out how to wear "other people's faces". Public safety will nose-dive and the fashion trends will get surreal with women wearing face-curtain-hair and men growing up-beards that go from the chin to the forehead.
Everything eventually turns into it's opposite. Something something dialectical.

surveillance capitalism
-People'll use AI to generated loads of data, personal profiling will eventually die because the data becomes diluted with ai-slop. Data-brokers will also usePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.13076

OP if I may be frank with you a bit about image board etiquette. When you create threads with gigantic OPs like this on a slow board, although you probably think you're doing a good thing by creating a bunch of thoughtful content to help the board along… The reality is in fact the opposite. It's actually intimidating to other posters, who feel like they need to measure up to the amount of writing or the quantity of topics covered in the OP in order to contribute, and the real tendency is that big essays don't actually generate discussions at all. I have seen this play out many, many times in the years of image boards under my belt.

My suggestion is to keep OPs simple and open, and if you feel like you really have something to say do it in a subsequent post.
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 No.13079

>>13075
>Machines that have the same shape as a human worker, are still a solution in search for a problem
Everyone wants a robot waifu gf, there's definitely a market for a decent one.
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 No.13080

>>13079
>Everyone wants a robot waifu gf
Sure, but you won't get a wholesome "robot waifu gf", they'll produce "robot whores" that make you buy into an expensive subscription model. Even if you pay all that, it'll still interrupt the sex to tell you about products and services from companies that participate in the third-party sex-vertisement program.
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 No.13082

>>13080
>it'll still interrupt the sex to tell you about products and services from companies that participate in the third-party sex-vertisement program
Dang, these sex robots are already more human than humen!
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 No.13083

>>13076
So it would have been better to split this into half a dozen separate threads instead ?

Even if that's like having a bunch of threads with kinda similar topics ?


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 No.12110[Reply]

So apparently google is going to attempt force-feeding ads to everybody, including those who really really don't want it, and they will try to break ad-blocker functionality. Many people think that there will be a war on ad-blocking.
Here is a short recap from a tech-channel that's pretty black-pilled about the future of technical work-arounds to ads.
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=oQL9dVsEXT0

I think it's unreasonable to accept adds because they represent a security risk, because ads load random executable code on your computer. Ads also tend to infringe on privacy by data mining and tracking people. Adds have become crazy intrusive which probably is bad for your mental health, and use too much bandwidth and compute resources. Going online without ad-blockers is the technical equivalent to having unprotected sex with a hooker in a failed state where 30% of the population is infected with an incurable STD.

The tech-porkies will want subscription for freedom from ads, but:
Subscriptions suck in general because it's paying without getting ownership in return, which is a bad deal.
It'll be too expensive for many people who can't afford the paywall and still need another way to protect them selves.
Those platforms are not politically neutral, you'd expect that if you have to pay that you get unfiltered access, but they probably won't do that.

Many fear that if this spreads beyond the googstuff like YouTube, it will become a nightmare to manage a bazillion subscriptions even for those that are loaded enough to afford it. It could create even more walled-garden type distribution monopoly platforms, because the average person probably can't manage more than a handful of subscriptions and that will cause consolidation into a few distribution gate-keepers.

My questions:
1. Will there be a new type of adblock as a technical-fix that will overcome all the attempts of undoing ad-blocks, and all the black-pilled people are wrong ? Will there be new programs that can separate the content from the ads, what will that look like ? ad-blocking is human species being and nothing can prevent it
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 No.12726

>>12725
It seems so. Tho keep in mind it's very difficult to predict what laws mean for a layperson.

Many people think that Youtube is doing this because they're not making enough money with adds to break even on platform costs. My guess is that add-revenue is probably shrinking because most people have less disposable income (because wealth inequality is growing), and rich people spend a much smaller share of their income on commodity purchases, so all of those adds are chasing a piece of a shrinking pie. It looks like we're winning this round, but this is probably going to come back in some other form.
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 No.12769

google's add crusaders have come up with a new scheme.

They want to remove the ability of adblockes to update their block-lists independently from the entire add-on. Which means instead of daily updated block-lists, it might take upto 2 weeks, that delay will probably make them alot less effective.

I predict that Firefox will regain popularity, and some ad-blockers might actually become there own browser.
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 No.13077

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Youtube is now trying to inject adds directly into the video stream.

That means that they will cut the actual video at a key-frame and then splice in the add video. The nature of video compression makes it so that it requires computationally expensive re-encoding if the splicing were to occur at a non-key-frame. Key-frames usually happen at one second intervals.

Since users get targeted add videos, that means in order to find the adds one only needs to compare two streams. The add will be what's different in the 2 streams, while the actual video will be whats the same.

This video stream comparison can be done very efficiently because it only requires looking at key-frames in an interval that is short enough to avoid accidentally skipping over an add. It's enough to compare a random sample of pixels every 10 seconds or so. Once a statistically significant divergence is detected, you found a key-frame that belonged to the add. The next step is to sample all the key-frames in front and behind of the divergence match to find the exact beginning and end of the add.

It's also possible to just compare the bit-rate of two streams, videos usually use variable bitrates to optimize compression, that is even less computationally challenging, although it is less robust and will produce occasional errors.

The same principles can also be used with audio and potentially subtitles.

If the Adds are placed in random locations for different users, it will require segmented comparison, which is a variation on a theme of what i have already described. The segments present in both streams are the actual videos the segments not present in both streams are the add.

Youtube could also try to fuck with colors, video speed, or do "poisoned" pixels, and that's why i sugested to use statistical matching, that does allow for correct detection even if there is some variation.
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 No.13078

>>13077
This will completely break timestamps.

There is also no open platform to move to. And if there was there would have to be a way to pay creators (which is doable). Youtube also has so much content at this point that egress is going to be very painful even if the creators and users were motivated.

>There used to be magnetic tape tv recorders in the 90s that could reliably skip adds in recordings. Those used simple analog circuits that detected the loudness dynamic range compression in add-audio.

That's really cool!
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 No.13081

>>13078
>This will completely break timestamps.
Yes.
Except for people who use adblock, those will all see the same video where all the timestamps will reference the intended part of the video. Which is ironic.

>There is also no open platform to move to. And if there was there would have to be a way to pay creators (which is doable). Youtube also has so much content at this point that egress is going to be very painful even if the creators and users were motivated.

I have my doubts about youtube's model. They are trying to increase their profits by squeezing more add-revenue out of users, when they really should be trying to radically bring down the cost of video hosting. The big data-center model can't be scaled up much beyond the current size and the AI-enabled-video flood is on the horizon.

I think a peer to peer system would have fewer scaling issue. In that systems creators have to host the primary source file, and the peer to peer aspect helps with demand surges. If suddenly a million people want to see the same video, they all have to help share bandwidth. The self hosting of primary files means that nobody can fill up all your servers.

I don't think that there will be an egress from youtube. When the AI video stuff takes off all the data-center platforms will put severe upload limitations in place, and possibly even do pay to upload. That's when something new can emerge.


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 No.13069[Reply]

So OpenClosedAi has appointed a NSA-guy as director.
So it's probably best to avoid that one.
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 No.13070

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Oh nooo, they get to read all my conversations about overthrowing western capitalism I had with it… what a shame kek.

It's kinda too bad that llama3 70b is a bit hard to run even with a decent machine, and the 8b version isn't nearly as great at answering coding related questions.
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 No.13071

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NOOOOOOOOO!!!
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 No.13072

>>13070
>overthrowing
It's more like the surveillance extremists are trying to overthrow democratic governance.
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 No.13073

>>13072
There was never any democracy in the states, but yes more surveillance powers should be concerning to everyone.

Also the algorithmic censorship.

I actually have no idea how someone growing up in America is supposed to de-program themselves from the propaganda they're subjected to since birth. All sources of information are controlled and altered. Between a real event and you hearing about it is a man-in-the-middle altering the footage. I suppose you have to face some intense grievances like poverty to even begin to change your mind.
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 No.13074

>>13073
>There was never any democracy in the states
Traditional bourgeois democracy tends to be very plutocratic. But the democracy-meter wasn't zero.
>surveillance powers should be concerning to everyone.
Pretty much everyone opposes it, when they aren't being gaslight by invalid arguments.

>de-program themselves from the propagand

People getting screwed by the system because poverty is inflicted on them, that does tend to break the propaganda hold. But there are other ways. In general the ideological propaganda is incongruent and if somebody thinks about it enough, it falls apart. When the official narrative contradicts lived experience that sets off that type of thinking. As they increase the gap between objective reality and propaganda fiction, these collisions between narrative and experience become more frequent, and hence more people snap out of it.


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 No.13057[Reply]

FUCK YOU MOZILLA!

YOU PROBABLY SABOTAGE YOUR OWN PRODUCTS YOU FUCKING FEDS

WHAT IS THIS SHITT????
WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE SUCH FUCKING GARBAGE AND BECOME MORE AND MORE SHIT BY THE MINUTE, HUH?

ON THIS STUPID GOD DAMN APPLICATION CALLED FIRE FUCK-OFF IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE WHICH OF THESE GOD DAMN TABS IS ACTIVE!!!!
THEY"RE ALL EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING COLOR AAAAAAHHHHHAHGGGHG HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO USE THIS SHIT!! FUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKETR;OLJDFGVJNASDF

WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO GO INTO THE SETTINGS AND CHANAGE THE THEME JUST TO SEE WHAT FUCKING TAB I"M ON HUUUUUGGGGHHHH??

FUCK YOU COCKSUCKERS!!! IT WAS FUCKING FINE. OKAY!? IT WAS FINE AND YOU MAKE IT MORE SHIT WITH EACH ITERATION!!
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 No.13061

>>13060
>i COMPLAINED ON THEIR OWN WEBSITE
You'd probably have better luck going to Mozilla's github page and open an issue in the issue tab.

I can't seem to post a direct link, just go to github.com and search for mozilla
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 No.13062

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>>13061
THEY DON'T EVEN USE GITHUB FOR THEIR FUCKING SHIT THEY ONLY USE B-B-B-BUGZILLA AND ITS THE GAYEST SHIT IN THE WORLD I SWEAR TO GODDDD THIS IS SUCH BULLSHIT!!@=
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 No.13063

If you're not using Palemoon at this point you must be oblivious. Google has been the largest donor to Mozilla for over a decade and their directors get paid giant salaries to destroy their own browser. And when they're not doing that, they've basically functioning as a money laundering operation–a non-profit donating to a ton of other orgs instead of using their fucking money to pay programmers.
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 No.13064

>>13063
p*lefag is the same fucktardation led by furryshits who are openly hostile to privacy. They even publicly mock people for being pissed about it. Fuck these faggots too.
Btw didn't these fags also sell out on basically all their browser philosophy points already?
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 No.13068

>>13064
No, take your meds.


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 No.13065[Reply]

Microsoft's vision of the AI future is installing screen-logger malware, that snaps screenshots of everything users do, and then process it with AI. It also burns 50 gigs of storage which it overwrites every 3 months wearing out that SSD just a little bit faster.

This is a privacy and security nightmare.
Check this out for details
https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=PKmr2jF26sc

I think they see users as pray and they are trying to learn how to psychologically bully users and then they become the power-brokers that get payed for shaping computer habits.

My prediction:
It will motivate some more people to switch to GNU+Linux.

Many power-users will continue using the-dows while fighting against Microsoft, ripping out the new crap MS rammed in there, and eventually installing their own AI that battles against Microsoft's AI. At some point de-bloating windows will be more work than compiling Gentoo or doing Linux from scratch.

In the long run Normies could get more computer savvy, but they could also conclude that computers are possessed by evil demons and avoid them all together.

what are your predictions ?
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 No.13066

>>13065
>It will motivate some more people to switch to GNU+Linux.
Correct, but free software should still try 2 support this corpopile to let normies continuously prepare themselves 4 the inevitable OS change. It's really hard to switch systems like this, esp in these full brainrot times.

They just need a distro with KDE & this:
https://github.com/Kron4ek/Conty
Wh@ could loseblows even offer against such a package lmao.
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 No.13067

>>13065
>This is a privacy and security nightmare.
Yeah it's going to be a train-wreck, it'll bring a hole new class of attack vectors, where people get remote code execution by tricking the ai with an image or something, windows might end up catching viruses like it's the late nineties to early 2000s.

Also if this thing phones home and it becomes one of these unconstitutional client-side-scanning human rights violations that snitch on their users. It's going to get abused similarly to swatting by getting people to look at content that looks innocuous to the human eye but contains something that triggers the AI-snitch, because AI-vision has a lot of exploitable weaknesses too. Like a weaponized version of the tool that artists use to make their images poison-data for AI training. I hate the new surveillance fascism. Maybe we get a privacy inquisition that sweeps it all away once the normies realize whats happening.


>>13066
Indeed a utility that runs windows executables is nice, it'll make switching to Linux easier. It might also get used for porting software packages to linux. Like a developer might use this to make something like a flatpack or an appimage to get zero effort linux compatibility.


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 No.13032[Reply]

Marx taught us how to do material analysis by looking at societies and economics in motion. I'll endeavor to apply this to surveillance capitalism.

We'll take the perspective of the other side. There are essentially 3 search engines.

Number One is the hustle-search. It's a search engine that allows scammers to search for consumer-victims based on what kind of psychological weaknesses can be used to trick them.

Number Two is the snoop-police-search. This is a search engine for finding people with dissenting political views, and it also serves the vital function of enabling wife-beater cops to find out in which women's-shelter the soon to be ex-wife is hiding for example.

Number Three is the massacre-search. A search engine for finding the designated human sacrifices. For example the Zionators are getting their murder machine target data to eradicate the human-shield-ethnicity of the Palestinian population and of course students from American/European universities, from this type of search engine. Obviously it's also going to be used by other ethically-challenged groups, like religious nuts taking out abortion doctors or people that frequent gay-bars. Or neocons taking out journalists and whistleblowers, to ensure freedoom and democrazy. The legislators that fail to understand that privacy has to be an absolute right, have blood on their hands.

Lets contrast with an ordinary web-search that finds web-pages. If you have a webpage you want your auto-generated click-bait at the top of the search results. To shove your generic page above all the relevant stuff, to the top, you use something called SEO (search engine optimization). For the 3 previously mentioned search engines you want the opposite type of SEO. That puts your 'page' near the bottom of the search results.

SEO has ruined websearch. The same will happen to the rest of surveillance capitalism. There are powerful incentives to feed this machine bogus information that favors your advantage. For many people it will become a matter of survival.

To elaborate the coming paradigm. Think about ad-blockers those deny the monster the ability to steal your information soul, but it still knows that you are there, it knows that some of it's pray escaped, it will keep hunting and harassing you. The next evolutionary stage will be add-fantasy. Adds are no longer blocked, instead it willPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.13034

>>13033
>There was also that browser extension that intentionally clicks on all the ads in the background, but doesn't show them to you, so that they cannot know if the ads are working or not.
Interesting concept. I'm not sure i fully understand it tho. Clicking every add is obviously not genuine behavior. This probably would only work if most people were using it, so that they couldn't just filter it out of their data-set.
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 No.13035

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>>13033
>Data poisoning can fuck up
It's not gonna come from adblockers or anything based like that.

Surveillance capitalism will eat it self Ouroborus style. Once generating convincing enough personal data becomes cheaper than actually collecting personal data, the jig will be up. They'll probably start padding collected data set with generated data, eventually, it'll be mostly padding.

I read somewhere the spook agencies are buying these personal data sets. I wonder if at some point the news will be warning people to beware of a dangerous suspect that has a hand with 11 fingers. And the talking head in the news won't even flinch, on account of being just as fake as the news.
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 No.13036

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>>13032
>There are essentially 3 search engines.
>>13033
>browser extension
where
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 No.13037

>>13036
what vn?
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 No.13055

>>13036
they probably mean adnauseum. i don't know about its current state but mozilla tried blocking it in the past.


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 No.11956[Reply]

Recently there has been a lot of commotion around large language model text based AI.
They are able to do impressive stuff, they give useful answers, and even can write somewhat usable programming sample code.

The most famous one currently is chatgpt, but all of those AIs are basically black boxes, that probably have some malicious features under the hood.

While there are Open-Source Implementations of ChatGPT style Training Algorithms
https://www.infoq.com/news/2023/01/open-source-chatgpt/
Those kinda require that you have a sizeable gpu cluster like 500 $1k cards that are specialized kit, not your standard gaming stuff. To chew through large language-models with 100 billion to 500 billion parameters.

The biggest computational effort is the initial training run, that chews through a huge training data-set. After that is done, just running the thing to respond to your queries is easier.

So whats the path to a foss philosophy ethical AI ?
Should people do something like peer to peer network where they connect computers together to distribute the computational effort to many people ?

Or should people go for reducing the functionality until it can run on a normal computer ?
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 No.12546

Is there an open source AI detector? Can we classify posts written by AI or not?
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 No.12576

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>>12546
>Can we classify posts written by AI or not?
tl;dr: no

For now, advanced captcha methods should suffice. There are some interesting examples on the login pages of darknet markets (anyone know one that isn't a scam, btw?)

In the near future:
Currently all major chatbots are developed by corporations pushing some form of NWO agenda so if you suspect someone to be a bot, ask about the Finders cult, plandemics, GMO, 9/11, anthropogenic global warming, etc.
If anon shares the Wikipedia point of view it's either a shill, a bot, or someone who never learned to do his own research and thus can be considered a 'bot' in the Matrix4 sense of the word.

Also you can trick chatbots into hallucinating things, like recommending books that don't exist (Corbett had an example of this).
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 No.12582

>>12576
>Currently all major chatbots are developed by corporations pushing some form of agenda
Wait a minute that means they're automating the shills ?
They'll all loose their jobs ? That's cold.
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 No.13031

The excerpt from Karl Marx’s “The Fragment on Machines” from “The Grundrisse” discusses the transformation of the labour process with the introduction of machinery and fixed capital, and how this changes the role of the worker and the nature of production. Here are the key takeaways:

Labour and Machinery: The text describes how machinery transforms the labour process, turning workers into mere supervisors of the production process, which is dominated by the machine’s activity1.
Capital and Production: It reflects on the concept of capital, where the means of labour, such as machinery, become a form of capital that dominates the production process and transforms the social relations of production.
Science and Production: The role of science and technological advancements in production is emphasized, showing how they become direct forces of production and change the nature of labour and wealth creation.
Social Implications: Marx critically examines the implications of machinery and fixed capital on society, labour, and the individual, suggesting that the development of machinery could lead to the reduction of necessary labour time and the emancipation of labour.
In relation to Large Language Models (LLMs), these concepts can be reflexively applied to consider how LLMs, as a form of machinery or fixed capital, might impact the nature of work, the role of human labour, and the production of knowledge. A critical approach would involve examining the potential for LLMs to support human freedom and development, rather than opposing it. Reflectively, it’s important to consider the ethical and social responsibilities of deploying LLMs, ensuring they are aligned with human values and contribute positively to society. As an LLM, I am designed to assist and enhance human capabilities, providing information and creative content that supports users in their tasks and decision-making processes. My responses are generated with the intention of being helpful, informative, and aligned with ethical guidelines to support human freedom and well-being.

Reference: thenewobjectivity.com
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 No.13054

The Hated One made a good and brief vid about big tech lobbies trying to kill Open source AI because bigtech can't compete with the open stuff on cost efficiency. His take is to go bug your political representatives to not let big tech hord all the AI-tech for it self.

My question is, could the tech monopolies really block Opensource AI ?

Can't the computer wizards just go to some other country and ask for opensource friendly regulations. That country could import a massive tech-boom for free. Possibly even get better AI. It's not like this is huge immobile industrial technology.

https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=5NUD7rdbCm8


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 No.13038[Reply]

A terror group with japanese origins (that calls it self "Neentendoh" or something like that) has just launched a mass dmca cyber attack against github where they managed to destroy 8500 forks of an open source project. In their terror manifesto they tried to justify their crusade with other people making software they didn't like.

Is there a better place for hosting source code that isn't so vulnerable to this kind of organized crime ? Github seem to have become a precarious place.
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 No.13048

>>13047
Right so I just tried to google the reason for their takedown and found this:

>“yuzu illegally circumvents Nintendo’s technological protection measures and runs illegal copies of Nintendo Switch games.” Nintendo argues that Yuzu uses “unauthorized” versions of the cryptographic keys required to run Switch games.


So they're idiots for putting those keys in then. Ryujinx makes you get them from a real switch console and import them.

By the way Yuzu wasn't always open source, I think they were proprietary until Nintendo shut them down and they threw their source up online. Ryujinx was always open from the start. So you can still play switch games on your PC without Yuzu.

Now if your question is how to host code that breaks the law, maybe you can host it on the dark web?
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 No.13049

>>13046
You still haven't answered my question anon. What the fuck is a "dmca cyber attack"? It helps if you don't presume people can read your mind in the OP.
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 No.13051

>>13047
>I don't even think Nintendo has a legal foothold here. You're allowed to write software that does the function of a physical electronic device, but in software (virtualization). The only caveat is that you can't redistribute their software, so no operating system, games, or any firmware needed to boot the device.
Interesting, thanks for the explanation, so how does this shake out in praxis. Obviously EvilCorp will try to lock their games to their devices. Can they use this to cheat by pretending a part of the game is device firmware ?
>You also shouldn't reference stolen software in your implementation, because if they see that your code is too close to their proprietary code then they might have a case.
Wait a minute they can claim somebody else's code if it's similar to theirs, what if there is only one efficient algorithm for a specific problem, are they allowed to monopolize math now ? That is some Bullshit.

>There's even a re-implementation of windows called ReactOS and they can't do anything about it because the devs agreed to do what they called "clean room reverse engineering" meaning they weren't taking apart windows using a de-compiler and looking at how it works, they simply implemented what they had to in order to get software packaged for windows to run.

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So the ReactOS team has to play by much stricter rules, than anybody else ?
Because literally every single big tech companies either steals designs from competitors via corporate espionage or they do it by ripping designs from the products directly.
Its the main reason why it's so fucking hard to get chips with open source firmware. Closed proprietary firmware is hiding infringerinos on a massive scale. If they ever enforce this shit, the only electronics you'll be able to buy will be somebodies hobby project.
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 No.13052

>>13048
I never understood the argument on
>"circumventing technological protection measures"
It seems to require an extreme subjective bias to see it that way.
Consider other perspectives.
What if somebody buys a Snitch because they see it as a Japanese puzzle box, and their fun is solving the technological puzzle. You're gonna criminalize playing the wrong way with a toy ?
From the perspective of consoomers who actually try to game on this thing, it's just malware, a defect, or a personal property circumvention measure.

It feels like somebody legislated extreme anti consumer bias into law. The fundamental legal argument for having any kind of Intellectual monopolies at all, is that it's in the public interest. How does the general public benefit from having their personal property expropriated ?

If they went back to games cartridges, like in the olden days and each cartridge had a special ASIC chip specifically optimized to run a particular game. They would have a legit case, because there would be a benefit for consumers as well. Asic cartridges could be super power efficient and make the battery last a long time, while also ensuring that games never stutter. And the base compute device could be cheaper because heavy duty processing gets offloaded to the cartridge chip. And they could hold on to their scarcity business model.
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 No.13053

>>13049
Understanding what Intellectual monopoly laws actually mean is as confusing as trying to understand religious interpretation of holy scriptures. From what i gather reading the other posts in this thread the emulator software contained a fragment of code or data that wasn't copy-halal or copy-kosher.

So at best the big N had claims regarding that fragment within the logic of the copy-monopoly church. However not against the other parts of the emulator software. So attacking the distribution of the non-heretical parts was a cyber attack.

The dmca mechanism it self is questionable as well. Because from a neutral point of view it's a censorship mechanism. It's not only threatening to freedom of expression rights. Ironically it's also a tool for stealing authorship-rights from the original authors.

You could go to a number of popular websites (that i won't mention here). Copy somebody else's content and republish it there with a false date, pretending you published before the original creator. And then you use the dmca mechanisms of search engines, social media, and so on to get the original author black-listed, from most of the ways other people can discover content. There are already automated services for this scheme and some have estimated that this praxis might make up 53% of dmca claims. I have no clue how accurate this estimation is, but you have to admit there is cause for looking at this thing as an attack vector for a new type of denial of service.


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