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 No.152584[Reply]

How would it look? How prevalent would it be in response to a WWIII type of scenario? How about a major attack on the U.S? Invasion?

Some places I came across said we had over 3.5MM military personnel in 1968. Post-9/11 we didn't see a major increase in levels, levels have kept a little above or below 400k since then.

Ukraine does not appear to be as technologically advanced as the U.S. BBC reports say the draft process still uses physical papers instead of a centralized database. 2:50 mark. Would the U.S., having an essentially digital tracking capability on every citizen, be more successful in getting folks to appear for service if drafted? Would there be vans pulling people off the streets, or would people simply be arrested for draft dodging?
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 No.152598

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>How would modern draft dodging look in the U.S.
I believe, alongside mass worker direct actions at home, a culture of resistance within the military was critical in stopping the Vietnam invasion. This culture even including normalized fragging to the point where a documented or suspected incident occurred every two days.

Fill the army with the people, and particularly the people who don't want to fight.
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 No.152599

Also, to actually address OP:
>Some places I came across said we had over 3.5MM military personnel in 1968. Post-9/11 we didn't see a major increase in levels, levels have kept a little above or below 400k since then.
My understanding is USA fights proxy wars where possible.

How many US soldiers have died in Ukraine? Wikipedia currently lists 'under 50.[1]

You actually don't need to send your own citizens and military to the slaughter if you are an imperial power. And China is the US's biggest threat, so they still want to show an ability to punish dissenting nations using Ukraine (after their failure in Afghanistan, Russia is an important showcase of NATO's enforcement power, which would make it a devastating battle to lose) to chill the Asia-Pacific. But the US can keep their military and citizenry available for fighting China.

But, in a situation where they're fighting China, I don't see their current military being nearly sufficient and militarizing a proxy nation probably wouldn't be enough, so a draft is a real potential outcome if the war doesn't stay cold. In an ideal world, we could just get all the nationalist sinophobic scum to volunteer and get them purged first. But I don't think the facade of freedom in the US could handle regular civilians being blackvanned, that's too blatant and over the line for The Land of the Free until it's in existential crisis.

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Americans_killed_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
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 No.152615

>>152594
maybe. republicans definitely arent the most anti-NATO force out there, but they probably think the interventions in eastern europe have been played out, and would rather focus on the browns and yellows in the middle east and china instead.
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 No.152876

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>Ukraine, as far as I know, for all the CIA meddling and what-have-you, has a genuinely popular nationalist anti-Russian sentiment
Only a r*ϟϟoid chauvinist could say shit like this to justify the neverending terror campaign against the local population which "historically never existed anyway".
Actual fucking Ukrainians in an actual fucking Ukraine despise the fucking whitoid decommuniZing mercenary invaders in a huge part because of it giving their local nazoid bastards the best political reputation they could've ever dreamed of.
Make a fucking ropeflip, faggot.

>They were difficult for a really big chunk of their time in the USSR
<<<faggot literally pulled a fascist nazoid inherent quality/collective punishment talking point about a whole fucking population to denigrate & justify all that is done to them like a good red-painted nutsoy that he is
<<<nevermind the fact that survivors of this regime of total freedom & democracy in Ukraine even now can only lament how good it was while the soviet regime lasted, with its @ least formal repression of national chauvinism & investments into public sphere
Wall.

>Euromaidan shit had a lot of people involved
<<<~40k of purely rightoid cretines acting on the direct orders of the local pro-western part of elites in the center of Kyiv only is "a lot of people" = all of dirty hohols should be bombed to hell for existing & making poor poor pidorushkan financial capital cry
2nd wall, faggot.

>They have a long history of seeing Russia as their region's oppressor.
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 No.152877

>>152876
Working hard?

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 No.152805[Reply]

>Classist
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 No.152869

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>class reductionist
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 No.152871

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 No.152873

>>152871
>another meme made to romanticise maturity as an aesthetic
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 No.152875

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>>152871
ew anon why do you even post this con faggotry

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 No.152695[Reply]

Honestly? Just quit this place.

I'm serious. Just quit this place. /leftypol/ is basically a board for ideologically incoherent incels and schizos who take pride in how abrasive and alienating they are. Most of the userbase here aren't really communists, socialists or anarchists in any meaningful sense, they're just illiterate losers who wanna LARP on the internet as Tim Curry in Command and Conquer while wondering while they aren't getting sex.

So, give 'em what they want, and leave them with a dead board because nobody wants to talk to them. I went nearly a month without posting here, and when I came back, the quality of posting managed to get even worse.

Rest of you wanna know why this place is dying? Look in them mirror. Nobody wants to put up with abrasive schizoposters when they can have an actual conversation somewhere else.
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 No.152735

>>152705
ukraine is doing fine without me lol

but you should go to russkia, they seem to be having some problems in belgorod
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 No.152833

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>>152695
>trying to sound like I'm not seething and coping
It's gonna be okay anon.
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 No.152838

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This isn't leftypol tho???
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 No.152870

>>152695
Deranged incels are unironically better @ grasping the actual reality & by length the history of it than any shitty commiesucc leftard who is, of course, completely content with the society as it is & for whom it is all but joking party roleplay with their social brethren, all of which doesn't have any actual intent or meaning.

>>152696
post pussy.
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 No.152872

>Nobody wants to put up with abrasive schizoposters when they can have an actual conversation somewhere else.

The entire rest of the internet aims for this coveted "actual conversation". I'm here for fun silly internet talk

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 No.152866[Reply]

Every person who works for any company has to cuck to another human being to make the company profit. These don’t have to be obvious jobs like car salesman or realtor. They also include being a cashier at Walmart with questions such as ‘Would you like our dogshit item nobody wants to buy for half the price?’ Once you’re out in the real world, you realize everyone is cucking everyone and the biggest cuckers are the old motherfuckers! What I would do is offer them a tour of the city for a fee (posing as a tourist guide is exceptionally easy), tell them to meet me at a location 30 minutes from the moment they paid me and simply not show up.

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 No.151695[Reply]

what is the point of doing anything anymore? Why even better yourself as a person if the final destination is getting blown up by a grenade falling on your head from a Russian drone or Muhammad firing a RPG at you.
How fucked are we? What do we do?
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 No.152808

>>151695
You idiot. You utter buffoon.

This is the point. This is the reason to cut out all the fucking bullshit and look your fellow human beings in the eye and agree to slay the dragon. If you cannot do it, if you fear that you will be at the mercy of the state military, I've got good news! You can work with us instead. Your alternative to dying to destroy the Beast is dying for nothing.

Let me get you started with a first assignment. Figure out where you are in relation to all the closest military bases. Where would the national guard come from when they come through? What roads do you think they would be likely to take, from what direction? Write it down and tell me, itt, when you've got it written down.
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 No.152809

>>152808
>tell me itt
good one fed. OP, you should know this stuff but don't write it down
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 No.152837

>>152809
I'm not a fed, but if OP doesn't want to write it down here that's fine. Folks should at least write shit down on paper so they can reference it, none of this is illegal, and this attitude of paranoia towards simply doing completely legal stuff in the interest of educating yaself is stupid.
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 No.152858

>>152837
I think laying any kind of tactical plans is putting the cart before the horse. You aren't going to be fighting by yourself - so you have to organize as a first priority.

How do we organize? I think this is the real question and a very difficult one. Like if there is a meeting of like minded people that explicitly want a revolution, I don't know where they meet in my city.
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 No.152865

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>>151695
>How fucked are we?
Completely. We are @ an infinitely WORSE condition as a political power than any left movement since 1917, & it just getting worse. & no you fucking morons, the fact that every single retard is bashing cuckitalism doesn't tell anything @ all, the elites would just throw 0.00001% of their profits into social budget & all these "critics" will instantly join the 2nd Freikorps in defence of socialist nation states against insane idealistic utopian commie radicals with their kike fairytales about one humankind with public ownership of the present universe.
>What do we do?
Actually realise your existential interests, for a start.
There's nobody who will do this for you & they know it & they made everything from the ground up to be this way worldwide. You're living in 1848-2 basically, maybe even earlier.

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 No.152848[Reply]

still can't pay the bills…
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 No.152853

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>>152852
oh shit wrong picture, i meant to attach this
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 No.152854

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>>152852
they are based parasites

and if you don't have rich parents that can give you that safety cushion then why even live lol?

no wonder every normoid I ever meet is a fucking alcoholic hollow husk of man

I asked one "how are you still alive bitch?" and he started waffling something about his kids lmao, can you believe this shit? What a pitiful faggot. Literally a fucking dumb animal.
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 No.152861

>>152854
people who have kids while being in relative poverty dont deserve much pity.

They use their kids as charity cases to get sympathy from society.
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 No.152862

>>152854
>>152861
Cope
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 No.152863

>>152853
>[commies] start building capitalist society
>everybody who isn't being exploited or doesn't want to be exploited for the surplus value gets thrown out
Le whorréur!

>>152851
>>152854
What the fuck happened to Komi?

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 No.152692[Reply]

sex is procreation, not degeneracy or sodomy. The concept of "born this way" at least in its modern form was always more of a identity politics stance than anything else. Many of the people pushing it didn’t actually beleive it themselfs, but it was beleived that by presenting degenerate, lumpen behaviour as an inherent characteristic, rather than as a freely made choice, people would be more likely to soften up towards it.
A reflection of this is sometimes seen today with the category of "BDSM" or "queer" in which sexual fluidity (the idea that sexuality isn’t set in stone) is taken for granted most of the time, and its only when people criticise the parts of this ideology that haven’t been fully normalised yet that they retreat to "born this way" as a safer position which it is harder to attack.
BDSM and other forms of degeneracy in relationships aren’t reproductive and aren’t typically accepted by the masses due to this reason, outside of the parasitic west
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 No.152799

fed post
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 No.152800

this is a copypasta from a LeftyPol post.
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 No.152802

>>152800
I'll shove the new Apple usb-c down your urethra and we'll both enjoy it namefag
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 No.152859

>>152802
someone is suffering from withdrawal
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 No.152880

>>152776
Now this is just dumb.

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 No.152857[Reply]

Suppose I were to be a Gavrilo Princip, who should I shot and where?

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 No.152843[Reply]

“When a liberal is abused, he says, ‘Thank God they didn’t beat me.’ When he is beaten, he thanks God they didn’t kill him. When he is killed, he will thank God that his immortal soul has been delivered from its mortal clay.”
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 No.152844

>>152843
If you're criticizing China for having capitalist relations of production then I think it's a fair point. What has the explicitly marxist communist party of china done to abolish capitalist class relations? I would have expected something radical like lowering the number of hours in a work week. Would that cause them to implode?

Like I actually think China has made a lot of progress and mostly what the party does are good choices, but the question can still be asked.
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 No.152845

I think Xi's tenure has been progressive for the CPC. He's seen a decent crackdown on the comprador bourgeois that were flourishing in the nighties. I think he's also brought a lot of the big bourgeoisie to heel. I'm cautiously optimistic about a revival of the hard-line party after they decide to reclaim Taiwan and sanctions set in.
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 No.152855

>>152845
Xi has also "seen" the Chinese bourgeois become so fantastically wealthy that they overtook the US in having the most billionaires in the world several years back.
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 No.152856

>>152855
billionaires in yuan and they still get regularly removed disappeared and executed. when that stops happening I'll reassess
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 No.152864

<152845 (fucking 50cent cocksucker)
1. you say that a citizen by the name of xi decides anything in a capitalist state. You should get shot for this glowing.
2. the middle kingdom (chynah) is cracking down on mongols for daring to speak their own fucking language & have their own history lessons. Try to cocksuck this away, faggot!
3. (another thing about 2nd capitalist economy of the global neofascist world)
4. (another thing about 2nd capitalist economy of the global neofascist world)
5. (another thing about 2nd capitalist economy of the global neofascist world)
6. (another thing about 2nd capitalist economy of the global neofascist world)
7. (another thing about 2nd capitalist economy of the global neofascist world)
8. (another thing about 2nd capitalist economy of the global neofascist world)
9. (another thing about 2nd capitalist economy of the global neofascist world)

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 No.152829[Reply]

For the job I want you need an associates at a minimum on top of five years of experience. Almost every job I’ve seen for IT help desk or technician want you to have a bachelors degree. WGU is $32k and four years. In my position, I would need a second job to pay off the debt in a timely matter. I’m almost 30 which is basically 1/3 through my lifespan.
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 No.152830

>>152829
Do you have your heart set on being an IT tech? I'm no expert and not in the industry myself, but the job market in compsci seems to be very saturated right now.
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 No.152835

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>>152830
It's pretty bad from what I've seen, a lot things are getting automated now.
>>152829
With WGU, you could finish fairly quick depending on your experience, also transfer credits from places like Sophia and Study.com.
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 No.152836

>>152829
It's not viable.
Guns are cheaper. Friends are cheaper. Housing is expensive and living is illegal. Forget any of this bullshit and get to the point of fixing things; you're almost 30, I'm past 30, it does not get better unless you change what is going on. If you think you've lived long enough to know how this shit is, you're correct.
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 No.152841

>>152836
Fixing things? With what method?
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 No.152842

>>152829
this is why counselors whom promote college to young peoole should be executed

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