>>142406>but, some times its good to come to a concious agreement about what we think we should and should not allow ourselves to do as people and as living organisms on the planet.
Agreed, but I think hunting is something that falls within acceptable bounds. It's something most people enjoy once they try it, and something innate. Torturing an animal, on the other hand, might say somethings about you as a person that would make you dangerous to people, which is the only type of organism I care about. >Some times hunting is necessary to quell popultions, but, if I can justify taking my agression out on you as a person the same way you do on random animals then you probably have an outlook worth discarding.
Yeah, but don't you see the contradiction there? You think it's okay to kill to control the population, but you wouldn't suggest such a thing for humans. I think you understand that there is a difference, plus, it's not like we have a shortage of hogs, coyotes, or deer. I wouldn't, for example hunt an African elephant, not because the elephant has special qualities that separate it from other animals, but because I think the elephant represents more than just itself as an organism. I think I hold animals on the same plane that I would hold a valuable object. I have a dog, and I do love what she dose for me, but if my family was starving, I wouldn't feel guilty about having to eat her, the same way I would not feel guilty about selling my car for parts if I needed money. I would, however, be just as wary of someone torturing a dog, as someone destroying a car or house for fun. There are many teens that like to vandalize things, and I think these anti-social tendencies are indicative of the same sort of thing as someone who tortures animals. Mind you, I'm not a vegan out of morals, but simply because my diet works better this way. I would eat meat if I could justify it that way, or if I found that the benefits outweighed the negatives, though I would probably still hunt my own meat. As it is, I do try to have the meat processed and donated. It's just not for me.