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Hidden Agenda is a Latin American post-revolutionary politics simulator. It is very old and very little info exists about this game. Also, /games/ it self is a bit boring right now. So I declare a challenge:

Come and beat my results
OR, discover new and interesting paths in the game
OR break the game and rip it apart, to discover all that it hides
[b]Post your discoveries ITT[/b]

The game can be found here:
Download the DOS version as the emulator one has a game-breaking bug.

For all the comrades that might be intimidated by it being a dinosaur, follow these tips:
To use it, download DOS BOX:
To launch, start DOS, and type in:
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I find it a very interesting game. It was definitely made by some people who had a lot of knowledge about politics and Latin America, although they were biased on certain aspects.
A left-winger play was all about trial and error. They suggested you to make a lot of policies they later came to regret, did a 180° on them or merely a 90° and at best you wasted a lot of time with them and at worst unnecessarily antagonised some people. But there is a trick. If you ask the right people, they will get you instantly where the left-wingers will end most of the time anyways. Finding these shortcuts at the right time is the way to success here.
And I was very pissed that I need to play it at least thrice, because you had 4 positions but only 3 left-wingers to place them there.
The centrists on the other hand were indecisive cowards. They had the right approach but at the last minute, pussied out and reset everything and you ended up which ended up with many dead innocents as a consequence, even with some of the advisors, like the nun who was murdered by blowtorch Bob, because you made moves against him but withdrew at the last second, giving him the time to carry out revenge. That's compromise seeking liberals in a nutshell here. Even Disco Elysium makes fun of that.
And then the right-wingers. I have no idea what they are all about, except business and elite sponsorship, but I never came far with these guys because I either ended up being revolted or all my right-wing ministers withdrew, lmao. Guess kinda realistic, assuming you have little US support. I heard they use this game to teach rookie diplomats and CIA agent about politics, lmao.
They were kinda biased when it came to religion, since all religious figures (nun, priest) were all about human rights. I guess the liberation theology was bigger than Jesus in Chimerica, but then again it was good that it was represented, but they should've put shady Wojtyłaists in there as well, showing that the church was not just all liberation theology and that they were willing to work with whatever fascist regime there was as long as it was against communism.
Yeah and the aspect where conservatives were willing to work with communists to get rid of a fascist regime is just bullshit. The old presidente was supposedly so unpopular that they were willing to do just that, yeah right.


You can also play it on your web browser, I had no bugs or problems with it.
Anyways I tried to go full communist but the game kinda forces you to be a centrist cuck if you don't want to get coup'd or get sanctions up your ass. I guess it's cool since it adds realism but is there any game where I can create my perfect Gay Luxury Communism world?

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How the fuck do you play pic related? My SU collapsed in 86 after going full stalinist
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Make them go reformist, which will end up in Tianamen.
If you are still communist, you automatically get Xinjiang-Uyguristan under your influence.
You can get Tibet through a mouseclick and the rest of China through event.


You could, but it's incredibly hard


>where you can save the USSR
In Mao yes, in Ostalgie, no matter what you do, you end up with a reformatory mess, something even GKChP will not be able to fix it.
Gorbachov in Ostalgie is the all powerful antagonist.



Yeltsin & friends are basically super-opportunists who will do their best to undermine your authority, even if you are ideologically on their side or close enough.

Kick Yeltsin out, then you can reform.


>then Ostalgie is the ultimate wet dream
>where you can save the USSR
you can not, no matte how you play it
>the socialist block
which is very hard to do and you there are chances you may lose Poland, Hungary and Romania along the way, which puts an even more severe dent in you economy
>win in Afghanistan
you either use special agents and turn it reformist or convince the entire Warsaw Pact and turn is socialist. It is very expensive and the WP option is only effective as long as you keep them all in the actual bloc. All for little reward in the end, since all you get is a contract, which is nice to have, but considering the effort, too little. But then again, whatever keeps the SocCamp stable.
>organize coup d'etats acrosss the world
You turn Algeria and Nepal reformist, Ethiopia socialist and Somalia nothing at all to gain exclusive access to their resources
You meddle in Laos (I never got this, what did that guy do to you) and Ireland after you researched the third (out of three) security tech, with severe diplomatic cost.
And through events Yemen and Iraq (or not assuming you followed the chains of event) and Romania if you are not Romania (fuck Chao).
Sri Lanka too, but aside from a beautiful dot, you get nothing.
Oh and you can assassinate Deng, but that was by popular demand. But aside from China all these countries were kinda instable to begin with.
>and be a major game changer in foreign elections while playing for fucking Albania or Bulgaria
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So… any communists around?


None at all, we are all just your imagination.


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You have summoned me!


So now that the communist boogeyman doesn't make much sense in the 21st century, what should be used instead? Plain old terrorists?


Chinese spies.


It’s still relevant though. Today anything that’s not fash or lib is labeled as a communist.

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>You are a proletarian living under late stage capitalism. >You hope to live under communism, but you know that it will never be possible for the foreseeable future. The only thing you can do is work hard and survive in this world of scarcity.
>You wonder why it's not possible to just go back to your old life, but then again maybe it would have been better if you had died during the war. It was a very dangerous time when people were dying left and right.
>You wonder if lower stage capitalism is possible in some form or if it's always the case that the only way to go is directly from a war-torn feudal society. You imagine that it would be much easier to go back to when slavery was still legal.
>You don't accept this conclusion as you want to achieve full comminism as soon as possible. You don't know how long you have left to live, but you're going to use it to fight the powers that be.
>You fight the powers that be by doing your job. You're just a cog in the machine, but you feel a great sense of satisfaction knowing that you're part of the problem, the system that exploits and subjugates you.
You start a communist party because you believe that it's the only way to go, but then you find out that there's already a communist party. You were so engrossed in your studies that you failed to notice this tiny little sect.
>You join the communist party, but never get a chance to use it. The member of the other party kill you in a surprise attack when you least expect it.
>You come back to life and find that the system still hasn't changed. The working class still doesn't have enough to survive while the rich continue to get richer. This isn't what you fought for, but what can you do?
>You start the revolution all over again and when you're done with that you go back to fighting the rich. It's never ending, but then revolutions always are.
>You gulag the rich until you're old and then die in your sleep.
>You come back to life as Stalin, but you don't want to be Stalin, you want to be free. You find it ironic that the only way to be trPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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I think about this one almost daily


how do we stop this from being our end


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They understood. They were trolling you.

You could open a thread in /leftypol/ about it.

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This is not a discussion thread this is a declaration. What I am about to say is NOT up for debate and you CANNOT possibly dispute anything written here.

Remember how early cars could only be operated by literal mechanics because they were so unintuitive and shit? Games pre-1993 were exactly like that. Games had no plot and shite gameplay which does not hold up at all these days, nevermind the unbearably primitive graphics. Gaming was the nichest of hobbies and considering the fact that PCs used to cost like 15'000 dollary doos in todays money, it was never going to become mainstream.

Then in 1993 Knack came out saw the release of Doom and Ultima VII: The Black Gate (whose expansion Ultima VII Part 2: Serpent Isle would surpass the base game), the mother and father of modern gaming.
Doom as every brainless chimp knows invented the modern FPS and by extension TPS genres, the two most lucrative and popular gaming genres and showed how fucking rad vidya gaems could be. It was mainstream, caused just the right amount of moral panic and sold millions. Doom would then be surpassed by Doom 2 and finally by Blood, the best non-3d shooter period.

Ultima VII was the first genuinely good and playable Ultima game that still holds up. While the plot is hot trash, it proved the viability of the open world. Serpent Isle would then go on to prove that games could tell an engaging story. Together, they laid the foundation for every modern RPG including the Baldur's Gate series which has yet to be surpassed in excellence.

Not only did the 90s see the most influential games of all time, they were also the best. Why? Because during this time, the industry had struck the perfect balance between technological capability and commercialisation. Games before did not have the tech to be good and games after were ruined by capitalism. Ideas could flourish and were unburdened by investor interests, at least not to the degree of today. All of this culminated in 2000 the undisputed best year in gaming. BG 2 is the best crpg of all time (Planescape Torment has the best story but is lacking as a gaming experience). Red Alert 2 is the best RTS of all time. Diablo 2 is the best action rpg of all time. Deus Ex is the best PC game period according to some.

These days, no risks are taken. Games like Myst, Myth 1 or 2 or even Planescape could never be made today. Games are so fucking expensive to make and in order to make back their money, dPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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If you stop at 2000 then you miss out on great games like Hellsinker and La-Mulana, OP…

>the Baldur's Gate series which has yet to be surpassed in excellence.

>BG 2 is the best crpg of all time
>Diablo 2 is the best action rpg of all time.
Ahahaha, wait, you're a total shit eater.


>Gamergate and the politicalization of gaming in general is their fault
Why do reactionary babies never man up to their ideals like someone forced them at gunpoint to adopt those beliefs


How old are you exactly?


God you are a loathsome cunt. You're right, but jesus christ could be more of a dickweed about it.


>These days, no risks are taken. Games like Myst, Myth 1 or 2 or even Planescape could never be made today
Disco Elysium, Cultist Simulator, Return of Obra Dinn, Pyre, Hades, Darkest Dungeon, Shovel Knight, Papers Please the entirety of Souls-like series etc.

>Games are so fucking expensive to make and in order to make back their money, devs are forced to pander to the most common denominator

True. Games industry as a wider form has degenerated, especially with the death of the mid-tier games. However 1) the indie scene is doing real well and is over time moving onto the mid-tier territory on its own, 2) an atarii crash is innevitable, as well as a reneisance that it will bring, 3) it only recently (over the past decade) went to shit like this, and arguablly it was the 00's to 10's+ that was the best years for the wider gaming industry (KotoR's, Bioshock, Dragon Age, Warcraft 3 and WoW, Return to Wolfenstein, Morrowind, Arcanum, Witcher and others), while even the early 10's to 20's had good stuff from larger companies, like aformentioned Souls games, Witcher 2 and 3, and, of course, the CRPG reneisance (though many of those are more indie).

>Gamers are Nazis, who cry and whine about idpol anytime a woman is on screen

And do people treat then seriously? They are a joke, the lowest common denominator that you talk about.

>Nerds back then were progressive and you never heard anything close to the gamergate bullshit of today.

That's just culture shit making a backswing, only tangentially related to gaming. Also, again, only really a problem since 2012ish.

>Graphics move more copies than concepts and plots are dumbed down so that every shitlib can understand them

Again, mostly true for AAA, but not so much for indie. And I don't really recall old games, outside of those well remembered monolithic cult classics, to be much different story wise. Oh, and the graphics shit was just as true back then, for instance see Quake 2, or that Deus Ex was lowkey mocked for its dogshit graphics.
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I don't want to be "that guy"
but it's always stuck out to me as strange that the ending of the witcher game series ends with Geralt as a landlord. Both as a character and story wise it's a strange place for him to end up. He's very accepting of suddenly having a servant and literal peasants working this big vineyard for him.
Should seem like Geralt would resist being in that kind of position. Witcher series also examines a lot of contemporary ideology through the prism of this particular world, even economic exploitation like debts or unfair wages, but in this one instance the feudal arrangement just goes unremarked upon. I dunno what was up with that.

Not a bad thing, i just noticed it.


>game and book both made by cucked poolanders
>the devs being noted to love crunching employees just as much as other publishers just that they hide scummy shit really well
&ltgame and book take after their reactionary bourgeois ideals
Wow gee. So strange!


>Polish authors
What did you expect?


I personally just don't consider the last DLC to be cannon, or at least consider it to happen separate from the main story. The actual W3 endings for Geralt of:
>Dying after loosing hope in a self-destructive fit
>Keeping on witchering
>Becoming a prize-husband for a court sorceress
>Retiring with his love in recluse
Seem way better.


I played Starsector for a while, but there isn't a lot of meat to the late-game colony sim stuff. I made a completely planned and AI assisted colony by farming alpha cores and I slowly gained the ability to terraform planets via a mod, resulting in me making as many planets in the solar system possible to be inhabited by humanity with little to no need for environmental gear, basically making a densely populated reach of space completely overpowering all the other factions by miles.
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Tried it. Amazing start as a communist. Sure, your relationship with all factions is destroyed, but just over a few months I stacked up a ton of credits without even leaving Askonia. Turns out making supply runs for space North Korea is extremely profitable. And hey, since everyone hates me, I don't even get the choice to use the "legal" 30% tariff market. I'm already level 15 from profitable trades.


So talking about the lore of the game, did Ludd cause the collapse? I found a listening post with a log of an old Domain prisoner list, one of whom was a cult leader with a strong "anti-tech, anti-science and anti-Domain" sentiment. Wouldn't be surprised if he was somehow involved with blowing up the gates. Or maybe he just used the collapse as an opportunity to start his cult on a civilizational level and I just read too deep into it.


its unlikely, the collapse was probably just a somewhat random event that Ludd just took advantage of.


So I've assembled a huge space jihad fleet, barely manage to scrape a win against REDACTED fleets with a radiant, nevermind two, and couldn't even scratch the REDACTED base.
Any recommended mods?


What kind of ships are you using? I am still new to the game (started after this thread), but from my experiance you want to have a shit ton of carriers.

Also are you colonising? It's basically impossible to field a proper fleet without it in my experiance.

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What are your opinions?
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pretty good ethics mod that is quite well balanced in my opinion, also contains the original ethics so you don't have to worry too much


>What are your opinions?
The only good thing about stellaris is that it conforms to the leftist worldview (ironically, porky Collectivism equals Authoritarianism versus Individualism equals Freedom equals Entrepreneurship was overtime changed to Freedom equals Egalitarianism and Communism, Private business equals oligarchy)

The game, however, was broken by later patches. It's overcomplicated and requires tedious routine, but also doesn't have any variance at all. It's perfectly balanced, but due to being overcomplicated and drawnout doesn't work out for multiplayer.


Now now, let's not get into extremes. The Xeno is made to be oppressed and exploited, same as the native population, to fuel the war machine.


>Freedom equals Entrepreneurship was overtime changed to Freedom equals Egalitarianism and Communism, Private business equals oligarchy)

I mean kinda but not really, a very common egalitarian empire type is 'democratic crusader' which is basically just America/NATO, there's nothing to say that egalitarian nations have to be commie, just that they can't be full hyperfascist

Fool. The xeno is to be integrated into our interstellar utopian state, and their best genetic qualities added to our own.


>Democratic crusader bad
Well I am sorry hippy doodle, but communal parity has to be spread from the barrel of a gun.

To add:
The Khan sounds cool, but…
He croaks way too soon to his assassin sex slave gf, so he only ends up a threat for like a quarter of the Galaxy
The War in Heaven is cool, but…
The rest of the game past midgame bores me so much that I literally never seen it.
Galactic market sounds cool, but…
Its fucking sterile and carries zero weight for the actual gameplay, as its just a seperate tab where you can buy or sell limitless amounts of goods. Traderoutes? Piracy? Smuggling? Nah, fuck that shit, no need.
The L sector or whatever its called is a cool idea, but…
Its just three prescripted outcomes of what is inside.
Curators are a cool idea, but…
They are just a guaranteed thing that will be a part of all your games and there is no real poin to them outside of "dump credits to gain x modifier".

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What do you think of weeb breath of the wild.
Should I play it, or should I fuck off to do more productive things.
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Yeah it's true, but I got lucky I think. Are you a more experienced player? I'm not very far into the story. Is the battle pass worth it? How bad is the resin issue?


I'm adventure level 28 going on 29 now.
Progression slows a lot; I'd been binging the game pretty hard since I'm NEET right now, but I had to slow because I can't go faster without paying at this point.
I will not pay a dime; I will not buy the pass, so I can't attest to it being worthwhile; it's ultimately your choice, but I wouldn't advise it because it doesn't seem wholly necessary unless you really wanna power through the game.
Anyhow, I take issue with the whole resin thing, but ultimately the fact that the amount of stuff I can do on any given day is limited has promoted a healthier lifestyle for me.
I can't just keep binging the game straight through to the cruel and bitter end because it prevents me from doing so,
so I just hop on and do my commissions and the domains if they got what I need and leave it at that; it's fun enough that way.


Hm guess I'll save my financial support for when they put out cosmetics. I don't want to power through the game, I want to just enjoy the slow burn.


Tried it.
Luckly my attention span is so short I lost interest after the first session


The Liyue part just made me a little bit sad. Outside of the rich city, there are abandoned mines, villages with only elders and children. It strikes too hard, is this really espacism or just social commentary under the guise of isekai?

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I honestly do not get their obsession with what character will get into smash.
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It's a popular video game and people like to see what character gets in. Where's the confusion?


"/v/" is derogatory at this point so either 4chan's /v/ or its dozen spinoffs with the same retarded culture.


I don't get why people are angry the character from that game for little kids is going to get added to a game for little kids with a bunch of characters from other games for little kids.


It’s a good game and anons have nothing better to do since Nintendo doesn’t want to fix their joycons drifting so starting drama is the next best thing


the game's roster has become a huge part of the game's marketing. also, there are only 4 more characters left to be revealed so people are worried that their most wanted won't get in when the dlc ends.
he's pretty good online

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