/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>492505
New sticky time!

>>492545
I asked this before. Allowing retards to use the reading thread to """debate""" using their faggy-ass sub-literate """libertarian""" cliches was a weird decision, and apparently purely a consequence of us just being very chill.

No.

Yes.

Double no.

>>495925
>>495955
undialectical

No

I've realized since… 2024 or 2025 that LaRouchites unironically are actually great academics. A lot of the research they've done is rock solid and just doesn't exist much outside of their work. I don't know if they're right about the British or not, but they definitely make a good case for it. I respect Jose Vega more than I respect a lot of other politicians.

I mean British bankers did finance Hitler…

>>494513
>LaRouchites unironically are actually great academics. A lot of the research they've done is rock solid
first thing I read in the morning after I wwake up thinking that maybe goyim deserve to live.

Can you even define a "lumpen" as a class?

>>495977
>romanticizing lumpen
It's 2026 and you're still using this retarded claim. Nobody is "romanticizing" anything. You talk about the segments of the working class as though they're some distant thing for us to fantasize about, but it's not the case. I don't have to "romanticize" anything; I'm lumpen, and I have plenty of experience with others in this strata. I make no broad positive or negative claims about lumpenproles; no pedestals, no moralistic condemnations, our class status is related to our material conditions, and I don't believe, from my experience, that this inherently results in reactionary behaviors as an entire strata.

By contrast, the capitalist propaganda which perpetually incites working people against other working people, and perpetually obfuscates the crimes of the rich while condemning the crimes (and supposed crimes) of low-level workers, is by its nature reactionary, and it's very telling that this is the only thing you focus on perpetuating when you come here and make your same old strawman argument about how everybody on the left today totally thinks lumpenproles are magic negros who spray sunshine out of their butts.

>Bukele is super popular
Also super mobbed up. An insanely corrupt guy whose actual programme is based around incorporation of large drug cartels' influence into state policy, and heavy backing from the U.S.

>lumpens can be tools of reaction like fascist paramilitias
Weird thing to argue while also shilling for Bukele. I'm told (by you every time you post this dumb argument) to uncritically believe that fascist paramilitaries are popular with the working class, so if your argument is that lumpens are inherently fascistic, then what's the problem? That's popular, or at least seems to be if you evaluate nothing else and don't take any other factors into account.

Marx's tirade about the lumpenproletariat, his most famous one, besides being a short part of a broader bibliography whose ire was focused far more against capitalists, landlords, etc. than against lumpen (unlike bourgeois propaganda, which incites especially against lumpenproles), was also distinctly moralistic. It's far, far, far away from the height of material analysis when he's basically just compPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>495981
… but with that said, there are two aspects which are still insightful. First, the concept of the lumpenprole itself comes from it, and second the description of the "reserve army of labor" actually is helpful and useful and you can actually understand the situation better if you focus on this aspect of the analysis and not all the shit where Marx is seething over how much he personally hates prostitutes. Seething over hookers isn't worth shit; a Fascist can blame the hookers for moral rot and seethe over it and incite, and those who have not been relegated to the positions of whores (yet) might cheer. It's worth much more to understand why lumpens exist, and to use that understanding to create a society with more educated people and more opportunities which produces less need for people to became prostitutes or beggars.

This naturalismizing tendency of class pseudostudies is just the sign of childs' fake marxism. Learn proper marxoid science and think in actual true categories. Think about goyim.

The Guardian:

The Foreign Office unit tracking potential breaches of international law by Israel in Gaza and more recently Lebanon has been closed because of cuts within the department.

The decision also means funding for the Conflict and Security Monitoring Project run by the Centre for information Resilience (CIR) will end. The centre had been doing a range of work for the Foreign Office, including the world’s largest open-source monitoring of incidents across Israel, Palestine and Lebanon.

It is the only programme in the UK that collects, verifies and analyses human rights and conflict incidents in Israel and the occupied territories. The database is also used to help Foreign Office teams decide whether arms export control licences to Israel should remain suspended, and helps officials conclude whether international humanitarian law concerns such as proportionality are being breached.

The Foreign Secretary, Yvette Cooper, was the Home Secretary who proscribed Palestine Action. Cooper is a member of Labour Friends of Israel.

https://x.com/DefendOurJuries/status/2047273491485864167
WATCH - Trudi Warner arrested, handcuffed, and carried for holding a placard with the law written on it outside Woolwich Crown Court.

“There’s a High Court Ruling about this law”

Trudi ought to know, because the case was “the Secretary General vs Trudi Warner”, and Trudi won.

Ukrainian rent boys' trial is tomorrow.

>>495917
The trial has begun!

>>495917
were they good?

What about Lenin and the Emir of Afghanistan?

>>495959
Putin didn't do vidrel.
Putin is comparatively less evil than both Biden & Trump because Putin isn't the primary backer and military support for a genocide. The complicity Putin does have in continuing trade with "israel" is the worst thing he's done. Russian Federation actions in Georgia (2008, not the recent made up non-crisis) and Ukraine (2014-today) are low-level crimes by comparison to what the U.S. has done in Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.

>>495967
>Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Iran
Also Yemen.

>>495967
Georgia literally had it coming with the South Ossetia thing. Reminder Saakashvili "retired" from president of Georgia after doing NATO's bidding to a comfortable appointment as governor of Odesa Oblast in Ukraine after the Maidan coup. He literally went from one Western provocation to another.

I hate Putin but really can't hate him.

Let's also not forget that the highly disturbing autopsy photos of child murder victim Jon-Bonet Ramsey are legally available online, and these include close-up photos of her vagina. But because the purpose of these pics are for the clinical study of a crime victim and not for the purpose of titillation, these pics are fully legal to view and presumably to download and possess. If the parents are indeed innocent of the crime, then aren't we causing them emotional distress by making these horrific crime photos publicly available? I am not arguing that disturbing crime photos should be illegal to view or possess, but I am using this as a point to make it clear that it seems really ludicrous that we can allow pics of this nature to be legal, yet pics and vids of youths posing nude or engaging in willing sexual situations that they may enjoy participating in is totally off-limits legally, and actually worthy of being placed in a "special" class of imagery that is not protected by the First Amendment. Again, this is what happens when emotion trumps logic; it results in one of the most important aspects of democracy being abandoned with too little complaints attached to it, and the government becoming involved in what clearly constitutes full fledged exercises in thought control.


The semi-naysayers often like to justify their above statements by making the famous declaration, "We have to draw the line somewhere!" I agree, which is why I believe the line should be drawn when the important factor of consent is no longer present. Claims that consent wasn't present when the young people who participated insist that it was need to be proven via a thorough but ethical investigation of all involved with the production, and not simply assumed for the purpose of "erring on the side of caution" or following the “better to be safe than sorry” ethos to the extreme.


So back to the main point: we only make sometimes irrational, and oftentimes outright draconian, exceptions to the above described rules when the people involved are underage, and this counts even after the girls or boys in question have become adults, as there is a new crop of lawyers who have taken advantage of the present climate of hysteria by encouraging some of these women to sue people who are discovered to have possession of some of the erotic pics taken of them when they were underage. I would say this creates a strong monetary incentive for such women to claim they suddenly wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

4) As my fellow activist Baldur pointed out to me before, the continued criminalization of such imagery and/or text can be used to blackmail or frame individuals by having such evidence planted on their computer hard drives without the knowledge of the owner. This can be done by any individual with a sufficient degree of hacking skills, including a jealous co-worker or even a LEO who wants to see to the arrest and personal destruction of a certain individual for purely political reasons. And of course, there have been a growing number of claims that certain types of malware may automatically download CP to people's hard drives that they had no intention of even viewing, let alone permanently possessing. These claims are far from outrageous, because it's a well known fact that malware can and often does automatically download adult pornography to people's hard drives against their intentions, so it's quite likely that any type of online material can be unknowingly downloaded onto someone's computer hard drive without their knowledge or intention.

The following are a few very important anecdotes in response to certain of my points, provided by one of my fellow pro-choice MAA activists, to whom I extend much thanks and appreciation for them. My previously mentioned points are in greentext, and their responses are in standard text.

>Accordingly, there is a big difference between 'child pornography' and what may best be labeled child erotica.

I'm sure there's a term for the argumentative fallacy where the opponent exaggerates your point to the most extreme and indefensible end of the spectrum, in order to more easily refute it. And the black and white thinking ("all CP is the worst kind") certainly doesn't contribute to an atmosphere of reasoned discussion. There is a middle ground that is being trampled, and I find this to be very unfortunate, because that middle ground occupies a place where the erotic beauty of youth and adolescence can be celebrated in a very positive way. But if you dare try to defend the middle ground, the antis write you off as trying to defend the "worst kind" of CP, since to them it's all the same.

>I would see no problem with pre-pubescents who possess an exhibitionist streak in them (and our society is well aware that such children do exist, despite our strong attempts to deny it) to appear in mildly erotic films…

I have no problem with this either, but I can see a potential problem with it - sociogenic in nature. It kind of parallels the issue of mutually consensual sexual contact between [youths] and adults - if the contact itself is not harmful, there is still the stigma that is imposed from outside forces that can result in harm. In this case, the stigma has to do with the sexual shame that is imposed on exhibitionism of this form. In other words, the idea that if somebody sees a "naughty" picture (or video) of you, your reputation could be ruined.
This is a general problem I see that needs to be addressed, but becomes something of a thorn in our side when the issue of youth erotica is involved. This is because of the "child protection" argument that considers children [and younger adolescents] unable to comprehend the repercussions of posing for sexy pictures (or videos) at their age - and the fact that they may regret it later (after it's too late, given the "immortality" of digital media in this age). You certainly see this argument when the topic of "sexting" coPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Didn't read.

maderialisd analyssis XDDDDD

This is Stalinist revisionism.
https://www.leftvoice.org/marxism-stalinism-and-queerphobia/

https://www.leftvoice.org/marxism-stalinism-and-queerphobia/
By decriminalizing male homosexuality, the Bolsheviks stood in the long tradition of the labor movement. In 1898, for example, the leader of the German Social Democrats, August Bebel, had been the first politician to call for homosexual emancipation in a parliament. Three years earlier, socialists had defended the famous writer Oscar Wilde when he was put on trial for his homosexuality. Eduard Bernstein sharply criticized the idea that homosexuality deviated from “nature,” proposing instead that it be understood as a deviation from “the firmly maintained fictional norm,” and holding that “there is no reasonable ground why a similar contract between man and man should be criminally punished.”7 Socialists were not the only ones to call for the legalization of homosexuality. After the October Revolution, however, they not only raised the demand but actually put it into practice.

errm his daughter described him as gay so its safe too say he was a faggot or else how could Marx x Lasselle yaoi exist

>>495929
Stalin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marx

m8 this is an English image board

>>495972
chauvinist spotted