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 No.285223[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Hello leftypol, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

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Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks
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Check out the /edu/ thread at
https://leftypol.org/edu/res/5576.html

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
https://lefty.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=debunk
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 No.480748

>>480742
interesting docu thx for posting it


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This thread will detail some of the changes made to the site in the past year, as well as our plans for the future.

New i2p Address
As requested by several users, and in accordance with our general ethos of encouraging online anonymity, leftychan now has an i2p address which can be found here:
http://leftychmxz3wczbd4add4atspbqevzrtwf2sjobm3waqosy2dbua.b32.i2p or http://leftychan.i2p/

Moderation Changes
* New spam filter - Thanks to the hard work of our dev and admin Zer0-, leftychan now has an effective countermeasure against the automatic bot spam that plagues alt-chans. Dubbed as the 'spam noticer', the implementation of this system has led to a dramatic fall in malicious advertisement threads being posted to the site.
* New mods & dev - In order to better cover european and asian timezones, two more mods have been voted onto the team. These are sindikat, who has previous moderation experience, and jon, who is also acting as a dev and has made many valuable contributions in this capacity.
* Removal of Zul - In line with the rule that if a mod is inactive for over 15 weeks their status as a mod is called into question, Zul was voted off the mod team.

New Roulette Board
>>>/777/
After some discussion, we decided on /k/ as the new roulette board theme, replacing /CHAD/. Archived threads from previous roulette cycles can still be viewed here >>>/roulette_archive/
Any suggestions for future roulette board rotations are welcome.
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 No.480075

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>>480064
>idpolist idpolly idpollers
Huh? Yea, sure.


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 No.480073[Reply]

What made old /leftypol/ good?

Pull examples from the archives, the booru, wherever and whatever. Hell, even just tell a story.

Was it the PDFs? Was it the artists making memes? Was it people's willingness to repost them? Was it the raids and antics? Was it the people who brought esoteric niche history and theory to light? Was it the crazy Trump election drama and racial uprisings in the US? Was it the proximity to all kinds of communities, with all of 8ch coming in to give their shit opinions and getting dogpilled into submission?
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 No.480088

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My wise decision making.
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 No.480091

>>480085
Something that's weird to me is that .org, the place which seemed the most eager to pay lip-service to this idea, does seem like the most "toxic" iteration. Even before they completely lost it all the way, I remember being really put off by how much threads seemed to just be filled with random negging, I honestly thought it was like feds or something trying to sow distrust and misery, and then it turned out a lot of their mods act like that too.
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 No.480779

>Was it the PDFs?
yes
>Was it the artists making memes?
yes
>Was it people's willingness to repost them?
yes
>Was it the raids and antics?
yes
>Was it the people who brought esoteric niche history and theory to light?
yes
>Was it the crazy Trump election drama and racial uprisings in the US?
yes
>Was it the proximity to all kinds of communities, with all of 8ch coming in to give their shit opinions and getting dogpilled into submission?
YES
>>480088
Also this
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 No.480835

>>480073
>all of 8ch getting dogpilled into submission
WTF
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 No.480862

>>480087

liberal faggot


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 No.479880[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Continued from >>477700

Updates since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 31,000.

The US Senate, with Biden's support, passed a bill to authorize more than $14,000,000,000 in military aid to Israel.

The International Court of Justice made an interim ruling in South Africa's favor in their case accusing Israel of genocidal acts in Gaza, deeming it plausible, Nicaragua signed on to the case.

Houthi rebels in Yemen have attacked cargo ships in the Red Sea in an attempt to disrupt the supply line of Israel's ongoing carpet bombing campaign against Gaza, resulting in the sinking of the Rubymar. The Biden admin has responded to the Houthis with a retaliatory bombing campaign, killing multiple fighters and at least one civilian. An attack on the True Confidence in March then yielded the first 3 civilian casualties of Houthi attacks.

Trade unionists in Scotland and England have blockaded major UK arms factories.

Canada, Australia, and the EU have started to resume funding to UNRWA, the UN agency for Palestinian refugee aid. Members of the agency have stated that Israel employed torture when interrogating them.

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 No.480851

>>480836
>Up to 14 years to clear Gaza rubble including unexploded ordnance
Too optimistic, they'll still be defusing duds, they dig up 50 years from now.
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 No.480853

>>480836
>Israeli PM says ICC decisions will not affect actions
The fact that he came out to make that statement means that it actually might have an affect.
>Benjamin Netanyahu says any rulings issued by the International Criminal Court will not affect Israel’s actions but would “set a dangerous precedent”.
Ending genocidal violence is a danger ?
what a psychotic world view.
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 No.480857

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>>480832
>I'm a professor!!!
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 No.480859

USAID concludes Israel in violation of White House directive: Report

The report by Devex comes after the White House issued a national security memo that told US Secretary of State Blinken to “obtain credible and reliable written assurance” that governments that receive weapons from Washington will abide by international humanitarian law.

But in a paper delivered to Blinken, the US aid agency said Israel is not demonstrating “necessary compliance” with the directive. Specifically, they point to the requirement that Israel fosters, and does not hamper “the transport of delivery of United States humanitarian assistance”, according to Devex.

In the coming weeks, Blinken is required to certify to Congress compliance with the White House directive.

Devex also cited a separate memo to Blinken from experts at USAID and the Department of State, which assessed international observers will declare “ongoing famine” in Gaza at the beginning of next month.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/4/26/israels-war-on-gaza-live-un-says-preserve-evidence-of-gaza-mass-graves
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 No.480861

>>480848
No.

>>480851
Maybe 80 tbh. It's a small area, but the amount of bombs they've dropped is absolutely insane.

>>480853
It will have an effect, it just won't immediately stop them. It will absolutely fuck dude up if a bunch of countries are obliged to arrest him if he visits them.

>Ending genocidal violence is a danger ?

what a psychotic world view.
Everything's a danger. Students protesting genocide are EXACTLY like Adolf Hitler!
He's completely full of shit.


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 No.480841[Reply]

So I noticed another topic which is forbidden to discuss on leftyogre. Recently it was revealed that the far-right party AfD in Germany is infiltrated with chinese glowies. Jian Guo is an actual spy of the chinese ministry of state security. Another interesting fact is, that Alice Weidel, a top member of the AfD has lived in China and speaks mandarin. Well guess what, it is forbidden to talk about this on leftyogre. Just mentioning this, will get you banned immediately and the mods will delete your posts.
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 No.480854

>>480849
All innuendo and of-course-X-would-do-this fallacies. Reminds me of Russiagate.
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 No.480855

>>480854
The US has a long history of meddling in other countries. In the age of multipolarity, you don't believe, that the other great powers will not do the same? From a strategic point of view, it would be stupid not to do it. And I don't think, that Putin and Xi are stupid.
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 No.480856

>>480846
>The kind of assertion that would be made by NATO propagandists, in fact.
You think it's a party internal political purge ?
The pro-Nato wing trying to get rid of the anti-Nato wing.
That could be plausible, assuming the people being accused are opposed to Nato.

>>480847
So we have:
a guy speaking mandarin and living in China for a while.
another guy with a Chinese name.
and unspecified connections to China.

Doesn't sound like that would be enough to bring out the accusations of treason.
At best this is a conflict of interests.
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 No.480858

>>480841
>it was revealed that the far-right party AfD in Germany is infiltrated with chinese glowies
proofs?
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 No.480860

UNITA, Mujahideen, Pinochet, Khmer Rouge. And today AfD. But yeah, this is totally necessary to establish communism. And anyone who disagrees, is just a NATO-cuck!


 No.476326[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

The nuclear threat is back. But we don't see any nuclear panic like in the 1980s. Why is that? Why does nobody care?

I am not some prepper retard but even I am getting nervous.

Just look at this shit
A time of unprecedented danger: It is 90 seconds to midnight
https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/current-time/
>This year, the Science and Security Board of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists moves the hands of the Doomsday Clock forward, largely (though not exclusively) because of the mounting dangers of the war in Ukraine. The Clock now stands at 90 seconds to midnight—the closest to global catastrophe it has ever been.
>As UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres warned in August, the world has entered “a time of nuclear danger not seen since the height of the Cold War.”

and also this
US Nuclear Test Raises Concerns of New Arms Race With Russia
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-19/us-nuclear-test-on-day-of-kremlin-s-treaty-abdication-fuels-doubt

https://archive.ph/EoqWY
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 No.480337

>>480333
>Can't wait for May 26th
I doubt much will happen.

Iran is having an economic boom because Oil prices are high, at the moment they don't want an escalation with Israel, they're just going to funnel some more weapons to the growing list of Israels enemies.

Israel on the other hand has failed to defeat Hamas, they did however mass murder 10s of thousands of civilians and children, and now the world thinks they're pure evil. Netanyahu wants to keep the war going to stay in power. They want war with Iran for political reasons and to drag the US into the mud.

Iran isn't going to take the bait. They already said as much. Isreal's threats to attack Iranian facilities seems like a dog growling at nothing.

Iran just bought new fighter jets, their pilots aren't fully trained yet.
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 No.480837

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Poland’s leader says his country is ready to host NATO members’ nuclear weapons to counter Russia
https://apnews.com/article/poland-nuclear-weapons-nato-russia-ukraine-d92c508d6ff53683a25f1bc62d256f86

>Poland’s president says the NATO member would be ready to host the nuclear weapons of the military alliances’s other members in response to Russia’s moving its nuclear weapons to neighboring Belarus.


>President Andrzej Duda made the comments in an interview published Monday in the Fakt tabloid.


>Prime Minister Donald Tusk, who shares Duda’s views on national security, later told journalists that Poland’s security and military potential are his priorities, but he needs to discuss this suggestion with Duda urgently.


>“This idea is absolutely massive, I would say, and very serious (and) I would need to know all the circumstances that have led the president to make this declaration,” he said.
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 No.480838

>>480837
>Donald Tusk
what is this bullshit?
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 No.480839

>>480838
what do you mean?
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 No.480840

>>480839
his name sounds like Donald Trump


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 No.480778[Reply]

Right-wing Supreme Court majority seems ready to sanction arrest of homeless people for sleeping in public

The Supreme Court majority indicated Monday during oral arguments in City of Grants Pass, Oregon v. Johnson that it is likely to overturn a lower court injunction against a local ordinance that allows police to arrest people for sleeping in public, although they have nowhere else to go.

The six right-wing justices who dominate the high court, including the openly corrupt Clarence Thomas—recipient of a $250,000 recreational vehicle that allows him to sleep comfortably while outside his home—showed no empathy for the plight of people who literally cannot afford a roof over their head. Instead, these reactionaries appear willing to approve the arrest of the homeless under the guise of deferring to local officials in matters of “policy.”

The case has been closely watched, especially by local governmental entities, many of which filed “friend of the court” briefs complaining that allowing the injunction to stand would “tie their hands.” There are more than 650,000 unhoused people in the United States, according to a 2023 count by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). The homeless population has increased by almost 15 percent since 2007, when HUD began collecting the data, with the growth of homelessness concentrated among older women and military veterans.

Provisions that criminalize extreme poverty harken back to an era of anti-vagrancy laws and debtors’ prisons. As the poet Anatole France famously wrote more than a century ago:

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal loaves of bread.

Grants Pass, Oregon, with a population 40,000, has a one percent housing vacancy rate, reflecting the severe shortage of affordable units afflicting much of the nation, and an estimated 600 homeless, many of whom are long-time Grants Pass residents. Initially, the city provided bus tickets to ship the homeless out of town, but most soon returned, in many cases with neighboring municipalities providing the return fare.

To force the homeless out of Grants Pass permanently, in 2013 the City Council announced it was enacting prohibitions against sleeping in public, including in cars, with any form of “bedding… for the purpose of maintaining a temporary place to live.” Penalties esPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.480793

Also, the crux of the article isn't that the Supreme Court is right-wing, it's that it's presently approving of bans on sleeping in public. Like if there was an article about stromtroopers going house to house murdering people, I swear some of you would be like "yeah, I knew these right-wing stormtroopers were gonna do it, why do these reporters act like it's some big revelation?"
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 No.480797

>>480793
Yes I would be, because it reads hilariously and it's clear the people at wsws have a stunning lack of self-awarenes.
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 No.480801

>>480797
>sees article about draconian homeless bans
>takes issue with the tone of the article rather than its contents
You're either purposefully wasting my time or you have a stick so far up your own posterior that you don't realize you're wasting both of our time by coming into this thread with this childish nonsense. Do better.
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 No.480816

Kill all cops tbh
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 No.480833

>>480816
Lenin be like


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 No.457563[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Last one is full and the worst thread on leftychan must be contained.

In recent news: Ukies done a successful counteroffensive in Izium, Z gang now in shambles. Biden promises even more money for Ukraine. Putin meets Xi, Erdogan, Modi and others at the SCO summit.


Pro-Russia sources:
https://nitter.net/RWApodcast
https://nitter.net/mdfzeh
https://nitter.net/AZmilitary1
https://nitter.net/wargonzoo
https://nitter.net/TheHumanFund5
https://t.me/intelslava
https://t.me/asbmil
https://t.me/vorposte

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 No.480826

The Nazis themselves admit that the people are against war, but that this was irrelevant. It was not them saying that they "fooled" people into anything. Once the Nazis seized the state, they can unilaterally declare war and a state of emergency, and then the people have no choice. The war would already start, and they only live here. No one put war up to a democratic vote or anything suggesting that public opinion had anything to do with the decision. Similarly, Americans would never be "fooled" to support any clear war of aggression. The war with Japan came because Japan attacked first, thinking that the US was internally divided and wouldn't hit back, and Germany followed through because they always intended to wage war against anything nominally democratic. Of course, the Germans are the shittiest allies ever, and the Americans are not internally divided where it mattered. Japan was hoping the Krauts would be worth something for once in their sorry existence, and they learned as Europeans always knew that Krauts Always Lie.

Anyway, casual racism aside, the only way to generate any public "support" for war is to convince the people they're under attack, and that the enemy is too scary to contemplate, so the men with the iron fist will make the Bad Man go away. That's always been the story to get the slaves to shut up and go back to work. For a mass army, where the citizens must be motivated to actually fight for this, the propaganda is different, but in all cases, the army needs to believe there is some stake to defend, whereas the propaganda of warrior aristocracies is always fake and gay because aristocracies are always fake and gay. But, the constant is that the only real interest the people have in war is defending their homes. Glory is all faggotry, by fags, of fags, for fags. There are fags who will join for such stories, and those are the most insufferable poison of any nation. Anyone who actually has to die for this shit will quickly see that the fags should have been ignored, but once fags get their way, they have a way of sneaking off and getting the honest to suffer for this faggotry. That's what the Nazis were, and there was certainly a lot of faggotry in their party.

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 No.480827

The past motives for war were overwhelmingly survival, in a world where warbands could be assembled cheaply. The barbarous peoples of the steppe or barbarian tribal societies think nothing of raising fighting men to make life hell for someone who is seen as soft, because the pleasant and peaceful alternative isn't appealing to them. In their world, the strong humiliate the weak, and there are no pretenses of justice, and this is seen as a condition of survival. The civilized are towards the barbarians nothing better, and often have been worse or far more insidious. It's not that barbarians "love war" in that sense, but that they are very quick to turn to war when it suits them, or launch raids to exhaust an enemy that must defend a line. Those are low cost for them, and high cost for an empire which must defend its network of interests and police its internal affairs. If you're a smart barbarian, you can turn these raids into a protection racket - instead of sending your warriors and horse archers to fuck up an empire's shit indefinitely, the empire can deliver a lot of gold to your warriors, and you become rich for basically nothing. The business model works very well, but it faces crises of stability when one of your warriors is ready to raise his power level and form a rival empire.
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 No.480828

The idea that civilized states are moved by propaganda in any significant direction is something PR ghouls want you to believe, when the reality is, PR works to create a chilling effect against anything that would disrupt internal affairs. The armies of modern polities know the news and the shows are all bullshit, and that the politicians lie about even the simplest thing, as does the armed service they are members of.

By now, the US doesn't even pretend to gin up public support for any war. After they got Iraq 2003, they knew that the public were irrelevant, and would only need to be threatened to make them comply. That's how Nazis always roll. Obama promises the men upstairs that his war machine will be smarter and cheaper and give the real power what they want. To the public, Obama didn't give anything except a few platitudes, all of them spoken with the utmost contempt. The liberals knew what they really wanted, and they saw the rest of the world as inferior slave races - they really do, that's the liberal ideology and their love for eugenics. They brag about this and brag that they can make the world accept this and love their slavery. It's always that.
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 No.480829

Anyone who is "fooled" is not fooled at all, and won't have to fight anything. They have the smug grin whenever they say this line about how they were "fooled". The Krauts knew what they knew, and knew they were collectively guilty for letting any part of Nazism happen - woe to the conquered, however stupid and pointless the death and slaughter may be. No one believes there is a "nice" way to put down the German menace by 1945. The strategic bombing of the British-led Empire was wholly unnecessary and produced no benefit that accelerated the end of the war, and only served to embolden Nazis and revanchists in the postwar order. It was calculated to produce exactly that, which is why the Soviets did not think about any such campaign, on top of them being fucktarded and evil adventures of a Satanic country. The Soviets were thinking about how to win the war, and yet the Anglo-Americans cry crocodile tears about raped Kraut women who had it coming. Stalin's boys having a little of the old in-out is hardly an atrocity like the bombing of Dresden. As for the post-war internment of German men, that is cruel, but they all knew they lost and this is how they would be made to march under the yoke in the 20th century. I don't weep one bit, considering their stupid country should have been dismantled then and there and not allowed to exist, and the Germanic way of life and its institutions should have been dismantled in total around the world. Hopefully some day, this de-Germanization will succeed, and the failed system will truly be gone.
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 No.480830

Likewise, no American seriously believes they are innocent. The rulers want us to live in shame for decisions the rulers made, and we have been made to bear all of the costs of the rulers' freeroll. But, we let it happen, and so, "woe to the conquered" - even when the ocnqueror is our own supposed leaders. That is the prevailing mood in America, rather than any commitment to justice. Wars are as far removed from justice as is possible. It's one reason why promising you will end war is a great way for politicians to gain actual public support, if they want such a thing.


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 No.469701[Reply]

I'm trying to find a scale to measure the "power tug". I'm analyzing the recent conflict in Ukraine in order to do that:

<The imperial bourgeoisie in the US won Round 1 in the ukro-war, because they managed to manufacture a war right on Russia's door-step that Russia didn't want and failed to prevent.


<The Russian Federation however won Round 2, they proved that Russia still is a super power that can destroy a sizable country without major consequences to it self, and that the US can neither cripple their economy via econ-war, nor exhaust their military resources via proxy-war.

Ukraine is now more or less a destroyed country, that's what loosing a war means, Russia basically is undamaged (bar a few scuffs in some border towns) just in case anybody is confused.

<The US has, on balance, lost this geopolitical battle because it did not achieve it's primary goal of imposing another 1990s neo-liberal shock doctrine on Russia or outright balkanizing the Russian federation into subservient ethno-nationalist vassal-states.


<However the US still has to be considered more powerful because Russia wasn't able to frustrate US attempts at manufacturing this war.

If you're a glowy or a nato-media-brain and want to complain about my framing of the Ukraine war please do so in the Ukraine thread

If we apply this scale for the next power tug in Asia.

The question becomes whether China is powerful enough to frustrate US attempts at creating a Taiwan-war with a similar pattern. China is certainly more powerful than Russia, but is it powerful enough ?
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 No.480371

>>480369
i think this >>480365 originated in the comment-section from thenextrecession blog, so not from ogre
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 No.480554

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Japan moves towards neutrality, while the US gets stuck in another Middle eastern bugaloo.
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 No.480684

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>a war right on Russia's door-step that Russia didn't want
Politically fucktarded toddler.
>The Russian Federation however won Round 2
In massacring & decomminising as much people (who are now forced conscripts so datsokaey) as possible.
>they proved that Russia still is a super power shithole that can not even destroy a sizable & the most impoverished country of Europe
That is correct, yes.
>without major consequences to it self
Hundreds of thousands of casualties, penal battalions, tons of imported mercenaries & utterly brainless assaults as an amalgamation of Chechnya & WW1 prove it better than anything.

Lakhta fags get the boolet in the first order, along with TsIPSO cucks.
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 No.480818

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Who would win ?
China's carrot or the US's stick ?
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 No.480820

>>480818
lol get people to abandon the US even faster. based comrade trump is doing anti imperialist accelerationist praxis


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 No.480780[Reply]

So I noticed, that leftychan and leftyogre are both promoting on their frontpage, the blog of some guy called Michael Roberts. This means, the mods of leftychan and leftyogre are both in favour of this obscure blogger. Why?
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 No.480812

>>480810
>What if we all could just be friends! There is no such thing as "might is right"! The power if love and friendship will win!!
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 No.480814

>>480812
>war is based and le cool bcuz we could go out like heroes! We will be mentioned in a couple obscure movies that people will forget about for the umpteenth Marvel blockbuster.
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 No.480815

>>480810
I agree
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 No.480817

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 No.480819

>>480817
what about the gangster communist computer gods?


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