/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>480064
whoever coded that website is a RETARD

yes, marxists.org

Bahaha it feels great to see a leftypol-inspired shitparty go down, but it feels sad that anyone was sucked into this and there remains nothing of substance. If there is an opposition party, it is conducted in secret, and must be. The public domain is dead.

>>487016
is he still around?

>>487017
Is there any more info?

From >>486980 it just looks like one literally who quit.

>>487019
And yet for some reason we're supposed to care about the hot takes of some nobody stream whore.

>>487021
>>487019
Yeah tbh this seems pretty insignificant.

>>487012
>a fitting send off
the wrecker got booed off the stage

Palestinian police officers deployed in various areas of Gaza

The Government Media Office in Gaza says thousands of Palestinian police officers have been deployed in the territory “as part of a government plan to maintain security and order across various governorates”, adding that municipalities have started “reopening and rehabilitating streets”.

“Government ministries and institutions are fully prepared to begin operations according to the government plan to ensure the swift and gradual return of normal life,” it said the statement, adding that the return of displaced people will commence seven days after the ceasefire comes into effect.

“We also call on our people to obtain information from official government sources, stay away from destroyed areas to avoid potential dangers, avoid shelled homes to prevent sudden collapses, and stay clear of suspicious rockets and objects,” the statement added.

“Adherence to safety instructions and raising awareness levels is essential.”

Gaza’s death toll at 46,913

At least 46,913 Palestinians have been killed and 110,750 wounded since Israel launched its war on Gaza, the Health Ministry says.

At least 25 people were killed and 14 injured over the past 24 hours, it added.
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>>487020
>begin operations according to the government plan to ensure the swift and gradual return of normal life
so this thing is over now ?
like for real ?

>Gaza’s death toll at 46,913
>The death toll is presumed to be far higher, with an estimated 10,000 bodies buried in the vast concrete debris
The estimated death toll is around 200k

>>487022
>so this thing is over now ?
>like for real ?
I'm still catching up to the last couple days of news, and there are scattered things like this I've seen:
https://x.com/jeremyscahill/status/1881473414638289160
My suspicion is that Israel will try to do the same sort of shit they've done in Lebanon, and will continue attacks in the West Bank with Trump support.
I'd love for it to be over, but they're gonna keep doing this stuff. They'll keep occupying Syria and Lebanon, they'll keep attacking Palestinians, and they'll keep pulling the US into war. The only solution is to end the reign of the war criminals (including in the US & UK), try them, and end Zionism once and for all. Without that, it will just keep repeating and getting worse.

>>487002
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this feels like summer camp dorm-room shenanigans, where somebody clicks the light switch on and off to mess with the introverted girl that tries to read a book.

I hope the tok gets re-instated and then everybody goes back to normal and the banning-the-internet-hysteria goes away.

>>487005
was meant for >>487001

>>487002
Ew, stop posting that faggot

>>487002
>Unironically is Elon some kind of closet Bolshevik whose actions are calculated to instill class consciousness
he does like rockets, the Bolsheviks also liked those.

But it's unlikely.

>>487002
>to instill class consciousness
To be fair you have to have a pretty high I _Q to understand Elon Musk but the real question is, can he prevent it at this point even if they tried doing so at all costs?

>>486898
Initially surprised there was anything left tbh not that I should have been, obviously there'd still be, like, AKs and bullets like you attached at the very least and probably other stuff

>>486979
After the Syrian government folded. Israel launched a frantic bombing campaign to destroy the big ticket items like tanks, helicopters, AA-radars/launchers and so on. I guess they destroyed 50% to 75% of that stuff. But they probably only got 10% of the smaller items.

Like you said, it's probably more than automatic rifles. Likely are mortars, rocket-pods, light cannons (for point defense or mounted on pickup trucks) , grenades and perhaps drones.

Israel bodied Iran and its entire axis. Now with Syria fallen there's an open corridor for IAF sorties to take out Iran's nuke sites a la Osirak 1981

>>486987
>Israel bodied Iran and its entire axis.
Yemen's still hitting Israel even as the US and UK continue to bomb Yemen on Israel's behalf.

>Now with Syria fallen there's an open corridor for IAF sorties to take out Iran's nuke sites a la Osirak 1981
The last time Israel (or possibly the US, see Daniel Alwan's possibly opsec-breaking post) attacked Iran directly, they struggled to get close enough to hit much, and that seems to have been down to Iran's own air defenses - Assad didn't do much of anything to impede them, an approach which, in retrospect, some would say was a mistake.

>>486987
>Israel bodied Iran and its entire axis.
Isreal has mainly bodied bloodied children in Gaza.

>Now with Syria fallen there's an open corridor
Those linchpin theories usually don't pan out.

>for IAF sorties to take out Iran's
Iran seem to have a potent air defense system these days. The last time Israel attempted an air-raid, was a few months ago. They fired fighter based long range stand-off weapons into Iran. By all appearances those ran into a veritable air-defense buzz-saw and very few targets were actually hit. After that Israel called off the followup strikes they had previously announced.

https://x.com/redstreamnet/status/1879285394069762424
Red - NOW: Authorities in the Republic of Korea (ROK) are attempting to arrest impeached President Yoon Suk Yeol for the second time over his brief declaration of martial law in December. Up to 1,000 police officers have been deployed, currently attempting to enter Yoon’s residence.

>>486892
Vietnam should invade South Korea as revenge for when South Korea joined in on invading Vietnam.

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2025/01/jk-kim-dong-wook-faces-legal-complaint-for-violating-south-koreas-foreign-nationals-political-activity-ban
In the document, the complainant stated, “JK Kim Dong Wook (John Kim) relinquished his South Korean citizenship to acquire Canadian citizenship, making him a foreign national. According to Article 17 of the Immigration Control Act, foreign nationals residing in South Korea are prohibited from engaging in political activities. Violators may face penalties.”

>>486949
>Are you sure that these "Greek tyrants" actually were tyrannical ?
That was exactly the point of the sentence you're responding to. Like democracy, autocratic rulers were sometimes capable of doing nice things for their demos. Michael Hudson points out in his recent book The Collapse of Antiquity that many of the Greek tyrants of the 7th century where dissident aristocrats who exploited anger against the nobility to seize power, and then instated populist reforms which would later pave the way for the development of democracies. Alternatively, you could have despotic tyrants like Dionysius of Syracuse who overthrew the Syracusan democracy and established a terror regime of cruelty and vindictiveness. The point is that you should define forms of government based on how the governing is done, not their outcomes. Especially when invoking the ancient, original definitions.

>>486950
>IP theft
Spookiest spook that ever spooked.

>>486950
>That's not true at all. The average soviet citizen waited decades for housing and automobiles while party members got the best houses and cars right away.
You are overstating your case a little, the delays weren't that bad. However you are not entirely wrong the soviet system didn't do particularly well for consumer items. You definitely can't organize the production of consumer goods like heavy industry. You are entirely wrong about Soviet housing tho, that was a massive success. Capitalist countries that had a wealth and development level comparable to the Soviet system had over 50% of their population living in slums. The Soviet apparent blocks were small and the massive cement housing units were dull and dreary, but they had reliable electricity, heating, fresh water, plumbing and some degree of personal space. Slums didn't have that and mostly don't to this day.

>lol that's the lefty equivalent of believing Hitler was
What the ? Oh i get it, Hitler must be compared to Stalin. It's ideologically mandatory, no matter how nonsensical.

>It's the only way to do it if you think about it. Giving the MoP directly to the people just means nobody will work and the project will not even get off the ground. Having an ultra-authoritarian state turn the citizens into slave laborers is the only way to get any productivity at all after private property has been abolished.
<Public sector economy is slavery
Now you're just trolling.
It is somewhat true that the Soviets never reached the communist goal of organizing the economy without wage-labor, but that isn't slavery. Your grasp on economic relations is dogshit.

>Inequality between worthless peasants perhaps but not inequality between the worthless peasants and the people running the state. That is the wrong metric to fetishize anyway. You would prefer that everyone has a bicycle rather than have a Mustang and let your neighbor have a Ferrari?
It's true that Soviet cars were boring and less sophisticated, but the Soviets had amazing public transport. I'm not convinced this difference was caused by economic ideology. Russia is geographically enormous and maintaining a nice road system that would have genePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>486950
>Only after they scraped communism and allowed private property again.
They allowed capitalist elements because bribing western capitalism by letting it exploit Chinese workers for a few decades was preferable to fighting off imperial invasions.

>Even then most of china's "success" is down to slave labor
Labor conditions in china were bad but it's improving. Labor conditions in the west have been better but it's deteriorating.

>IP theft
"Intellectual property" is nothing more that monopoly privileges. All the neo-liberal economists that went to China in the 70s to proselytize the free market, guess what, the Chinese took them by their word. >>486952 is correct.

>and the same short sighted fiat currency manipulation that is fucking over the west
I think it's true that China does have the ability to controle the exchange rate of their currency, and they very likely do use it, probably to keep the prices of their exports stable. However that doesn't compare to what the US has done with it's controle over the world reserve currency.

>>486951
>That was exactly the point of the sentence you're responding to. Like democracy, autocratic rulers were sometimes capable of doing nice things for their demos. Michael Hudson points out in his recent book The Collapse of Antiquity that many of the Greek tyrants of the 7th century where dissident aristocrats who exploited anger against the nobility to seize power, and then instated populist reforms which would later pave the way for the development of democracies. Alternatively, you could have despotic tyrants like Dionysius of Syracuse who overthrew the Syracusan democracy and established a terror regime of cruelty and vindictiveness. The point is that you should define forms of government based on how the governing is done, not their outcomes.
Maybe i'm being extra dense, but isn't the dissident aristocrats seizing power to pave the way for democracy, a desirable outcome ?
I guess what i'm saying here is that i don't understand how you distinguish
<how the governing is done
from
<their outcomes.

>>485931
This author makes a lot of dogmatic assertions without arguments to justify them and I couldn't take her seriously after she brought up "misogyny".

Trump announces Massad Boulos as adviser on Arab and Middle Eastern affairs

US President-elect Donald Trump says Lebanese American businessman Massad Boulos will serve as a senior adviser.

During Trump’s election campaign, Boulos repeatedly met with Arab American and Muslim leaders.

Boulos is also the father-in-law of Trump’s daughter Tiffany.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/12/1/live-aid-workers-among-45-killed-by-israel-in-gaza-as-hamas-in-truce-talks

https://twitter.com/CornelWest/status/1879645785328844932
Statement from Cornel West on the ceasefire

>>486939
Does anyone still pay attention to this clown?

>>486941
… It's a good statement. I watched it.

>>486315
It was long ago, if i remember i'll make a thread about it.

Are you prepping, my fellow preppers?
Nuclear bunker sales increase, despite expert warnings they aren’t going to provide protection
https://apnews.com/article/nuclear-bunkers-war-atomic-bombs-0356fa5b34067c138c64b9143f73c308
>Global security leaders are warning nuclear threats are growing as weapons spending surged to $91.4 billion last year. At the same time, private bunker sales are on the rise globally, from small metal boxes to crawl inside of to extravagant underground mansions.

>Critics warn these bunkers create a false perception that a nuclear war is survivable. They argue that people planning to live through an atomic blast aren’t focusing on the real and current dangers posed by nuclear threats, and the critical need to stop the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

>Meanwhile, government disaster experts say bunkers aren’t necessary. A Federal Emergency Management Agency 100-page guide on responding to a nuclear detonation focuses on having the public get inside and stay inside, ideally in a basement and away from outside walls for at least a day. Those existing spaces can provide protection from radioactive fallout, says FEMA.

It's the fucking Cold War shitshow all over again
>preppers start nuclear hysteria
>anti-nuke activists say that preparing for the war is le bad because it implies the nuclear war is survivable
>the government says that buying or building expensive bunkers is not necessary because you can survive the nuclear blast just hiding under the table

>>486780
Impending nuke warnings are down to 5 minutes or so. Rich people won't have time to get to their bunkers. If somebody survives in a luxury bunker it will be the maintenance and cleaning crew. Sweet irony.

>Critics warn these bunkers create a false perception that a nuclear war is survivable. They argue that people planning to live through an atomic blast aren’t focusing on the real and current dangers posed by nuclear threats, and the critical need to stop the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.
That doesn't work, wrong psychology. They should sell bunker-sealing-kits with a bunker-map, instead. You know something to block-off bunker-doors and seal-up the air-exchange-vents from the outside. The left-behind F-U kit. Psychology wise that might be more convincing, than explaining the logistics errors of trying to treat nuclear war like a contingency problem. People didn't investigate and understand the material consequences of nuclear war and based on that attempted to create a nuke-proof habitat. I think people treat this like a game of musical chairs where they pay to reserve a chair.

>preppers start nuclear hysteria
>anti-nuke activists say that preparing for the war is le bad because it implies the nuclear war is survivable
>the government says that buying or building expensive bunkers is not necessary because you can survive the nuclear blast just hiding under the table
First as a tragedy then as a farce.

There is a case to build houses and buildings underground tho, because temperatures below ground are stable and energy use for heating or air-conditioning would go down to a small fraction. Most people probably would only run a water draining pump and ventilation . Since building-roofs would be at ground level they could be little parks or gardens. Windows could be simulated with stereo-cameras and 3d-effect screens. It would also somewhat harden civilization against war. If we hide industrial society a little the reactionary anti-prosperity strain that took over a lot of environmentalism would fade away too.

>>486782
>That doesn't work, wrong psychology. They should sell bunker-sealing-kits with a bunker-map, instead. You know something to block-off bunker-doors and seal-up the air-exchange-vents from the outside.

But how will that help?

>>486925
>But how will that help?
If a nuclear war breaks out, it does nothing, just like the bunkers.

The bunkers are imaginary protection from nuclear war.
The bunker-sealing-kits are imaginary bunker-spoilers.

If you wanted to weather a nuclear war for real you need a fully fledged underground habitat, one that is self sufficient in everything, a fully fledged biome that yields food, geothermal energy, resource gathering , artificial atmosphere generators, … It would need to support a population of about 100000 people. More like a giant space station. You have to plan for unforeseen complications. A nuclear war could ruin the surface in ways that we can't predict. That means you need to include the capacity to rebuild civilization underground. The means to expand the underground habitat until a level of economic power and technological sophistication is achieved that enables terra-forming the ruined surface so that it once again supports human live. It means committing to a scifi scenario where the next 10000 years, humanity might have to larp as mole-people. We could technically do this, but lets face it, we won't.

Most people think that a bunker only needs to be a underground hotel room that has enough provisions. Explaining why that's wrong is complicated. Some rich people might see a bunker as nothing more than the ability to live out the rest of their lives, once nuclear war has extinct humanity, so they get to have the last party.

So with all that in mind, it's easier to tell people that those left behind will ruin their bunker and therefor the only option to deal with a nuclear war, is not having the nuclear war in the first place and idk throwing the WW3 lobby into a vat of boiling acid or something.